tessa grace
yeehaw
just woke up. i'll get off mobile rq and post soon.
Mafia Monster's Ball Mafia [Game Thread - Endgame, Town Wins!]]
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I don’t think it’s Shell because they seem to lack confidence in a way that isn’t plastic. It might be argued they didn’t want to be too involved in the wagon of Droqen vs. Mog, but her TR of Ghost was basically identical to my train of thought. Their read on Caffline is a point of interest.
@shellbell I need more information from you. Who among room 2 is mafia and why? Do you think Mog is clear?
Speaking of which, all 3 parties I’m interested in (Tessa, Mog, Sheep) seem to agree that Shellbell is the wolf in Room 3 but haven’t provided reasoning for it.
There exists a 60/40 possibility in my eyes that Caffline is just pretending to be new. It’s different from Shell in that they feel slightly fake in their indecision.
@tessa. while I have you here I desperately need you to explain why you chose Ace in the first place.
@shellbell I need more information from you. Who among room 2 is mafia and why? Do you think Mog is clear?
Speaking of which, all 3 parties I’m interested in (Tessa, Mog, Sheep) seem to agree that Shellbell is the wolf in Room 3 but haven’t provided reasoning for it.
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There exists a 60/40 possibility in my eyes that Caffline is just pretending to be new. It’s different from Shell in that they feel slightly fake in their indecision.
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@tessa. while I have you here I desperately need you to explain why you chose Ace in the first place.
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tessa grace
yeehaw
Alright finally guys I have the motivation to post content! (finished all my homework and I'm sorta feeling like a boss)
So the question was to focus on other rooms. Here are my thoughts on that.
Room 1: It's Ace Marvel. All the way.
In all seriousness though I think that Betsy was probably mafia. Obviously I don't think it's Ace Marvel because I neighbourized him. And even though I've never played a game with ness he feels a little too solvy to be mafia.
Room 3: I really hope that Mogyay doesn't drop out, but honestly I'm suspcious of both Shell and Mogyay. I need to iso room 3 first. If anything I would love to hear more from shellbell. Mog playing the "i wont kill people i love" card did feel pretty wolfy, though.
anyway i'll probably go iso mog and shell now.
So the question was to focus on other rooms. Here are my thoughts on that.
Room 1: It's Ace Marvel. All the way.
In all seriousness though I think that Betsy was probably mafia. Obviously I don't think it's Ace Marvel because I neighbourized him. And even though I've never played a game with ness he feels a little too solvy to be mafia.
Room 3: I really hope that Mogyay doesn't drop out, but honestly I'm suspcious of both Shell and Mogyay. I need to iso room 3 first. If anything I would love to hear more from shellbell. Mog playing the "i wont kill people i love" card did feel pretty wolfy, though.
I chose Ace because after thinking through that room, the only people I had played with were ace and betsy so I couldn't read ness and dan too well. I had more suspicion of betsy so I chose ace out of everyone in that room. And I didn't pick someone from room three because I didn't know anything about them. Obviously I would already be able to communicate with my room so I didn't pick anyone there, either. It was all a POE. I actually didn't think about how me and ace were wolf partners at all when I opened the chat.
why on earth would we reveal that we were the neighbours if we were mafia?What if the wolves are Ace and tessa? What if tessa neighbourized Ace right after the individual room phase and they are throwing people off together and being each other’s alibis?
anyway i'll probably go iso mog and shell now.
can someone explain what neighbourized means tho pls? is it just that u share a chat? how come ace seems to be cleared but not tessa? i can clearly see it in OP but it doesnt rly explain anything? i admit i skimmed (...lol) through the days that weren't my turn so can someone tell me where it was announced coz im kind of lost im sorry
tessa grace
yeehaw
basically since i won the monster thingy i get to share a private chat with one person and i got to choose. it has nothing to do with my alignment and was revealed before roles were.
also you aren't quitting, right?
but like why wouldnt u reveal if u were mafia tho? seems smart , its not like it makes u more of a target rly anyways , unless im dumb lol
and ty for explaining, that makes sense, i didnt realise it was chosen before roles were
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no im sorry i was being rly dramatic last night , i misunderstood what ace said and i thought i had broken a rule and was throwing, im sorry for being dramatic everyone, its just my nature
and ty for explaining, that makes sense, i didnt realise it was chosen before roles were
tessa grace
yeehaw
because people would think that we mafia trying to communicate early in the game.
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that we are**mafia trying to communicate
(i hate that i can't write correct grammar all the time)
also i did provide reasoning for it, i was pretty sure that ghost was town and droq was mafia but when he left his last will, or his message after death it just seemed to be rly genuine and i felt like i had made a mistake. also shell in general was kind of vague and has since seemed to have disappeared from the game. honestly im not sure, maybe droq was mafia but im getting weird vibes now thats made me rethink. if shell was mafia tho i do feel like itd have been beneficial to nail droq instead of ghost tho, she was (i think genuinely) toying with the idea of letting fate decide but she chose not to which actually seems more sus to me, that may have actually been a joke tho im not sure
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oh i see, so did u decide who to pick before the game had even started then? im sorry if this is a dumb question im tired
tessa grace
yeehaw
no i could pick at anytime.
Sheep Villager
Feel free to call me Sheep
Thogts on Mogts
Honestly I have a hard time finding Mog wolf-y in general due to her being pretty strong on the emotional responses and I've learned that in all recent games that has always been a town sign, we haven't exactly had any oscar worthy performances over here. I know Mog is just like that but wanting to rep out (repping out?) over the Ace kerfuffle reads as pretty town to me. If Mog was mafia I feel she would take the heat way better.
Mog also has been consistently exhibiting behavior that contradicts herself and makes her seem suspicious if you follow her own logic. This has been going on since room phase and I just don't feel like a wolf would be that careless. As a wolf you generally think about what you say really hard instead of giving free ammo to everyone?
Looking at a world where Mog is wolf
Okay so if I take your assignment here and look at a world where Mog is 100% wolf then the things she has done that do seem wolfy are the early eagerness to jump on Droqen and starting that push over a RX vote. I guess I still to this day find it weird when people go hard on others for early votes. Validating this with the reason that wolves have to be aggressive feels a tad silly to me.
Mog voting so late felt a bit iffy in the context of a possible wolf pushing Droqen since she seemed like she was waiting for Shell to go first. Kind of takes the pressure off of her I feel since she started that wagon.
Mog also remarked about letting it rand but was not onboard with that which does have some wolf fear. This is a minor point for me as it felt more like a joke but eh.
Teams, teams
Mog-Ace - Extremely unlikely. That one kerfuffle. That's all.
Mog-Betsy - Possible as Mog doesn't think she was wolf
Mog-Ness - No interactions but Ness is poking so. A bit more on the unlikely side.
Mog-Tessa - Possible. Not much interaction aside from mechanics talk.
Mog-Caffline - Slightly possible? Mog expressed sus on her without explaining. No other interactions. Could be distancing but idk.
Mog-B100m - I stand by B100m not being wolf too strongly to think much about this but I guess for the audacity of it yeah technically same as Betsy. B100m straight up was town though so.
Do I think Mog is Wolfin?
Leaning more on the no side. Even when I look at it from perspective where she is wolf the town I see in her overrides it for me. I am leaning more on the emotion side of things right now though.
Shell of Bell coming up next.
tessa grace
yeehaw
dang sheep you just beat me to it
things on mog (yes these posts are going to be out of order):
but anyway you kind of just implied in this post that you can't blame people for being suspicious if you're considered unhelpful. but wouldn't blaming people and contributing to the game be an effort to be helpful? dunno if i'm looking into this too much but i just don't like this reasoning at all.
however you did ask questions and provided some posts. honestly its a null-leaning town for me rn cause like sheep said she would probably put in more thought into posts if she was mafia.
anyway i need a break cause i really can't think right now.
things on mog (yes these posts are going to be out of order):
weren't you the one who first suggested to let fate decide?
in this context i think you were talking about ghost (right?)
but anyway you kind of just implied in this post that you can't blame people for being suspicious if you're considered unhelpful. but wouldn't blaming people and contributing to the game be an effort to be helpful? dunno if i'm looking into this too much but i just don't like this reasoning at all.
however you did ask questions and provided some posts. honestly its a null-leaning town for me rn cause like sheep said she would probably put in more thought into posts if she was mafia.
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anyway i need a break cause i really can't think right now.
yes i did say it first but idk what ur point is, the voting was up to shell , im just saying id find it more town leaning if she did let fate decide. no one likes that power (well ik i dont and she seems to be relatively wishy washy like me) then again im projecting my own town feelings on to her, ultimately she TR droq more so its probs not that sus , i just found it interesting she even brought it up
i accidentally ignored ness oops, sorry, i had a few notifs and missed u, i genuinely dont know, tessa and caffiene but id need to read back, bloom and sheep dont give me mafia sensations
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i accidentally ignored ness oops, sorry, i had a few notifs and missed u, i genuinely dont know
, tessa and caffiene but id need to read back, bloom and sheep dont give me mafia sensationsLook I’m just going to throw it out there a Mog/sheep team just feels too real to me.
Need to wait to see more. @Ace Marvel be a lamb and generate discussion for me xoxo
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Need to wait to see more. @Ace Marvel be a lamb and generate discussion for me xoxo
ily but ur wrong, i just like someone being on my side ok
also sheep is the only person ive played with as of recent and theyre giving off opposite vibes from last game when they were maf (where they sussed me a lot lol)
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also i dont mind if i need to die coz im gonna be drunk fri through sat anyways but if i die pls take my word for it that im town pls id never lie
Sheep Villager
Feel free to call me Sheep
Shelling out my thoughts on the Bell
Shell has been pretty active in poking at others which would normally be a pretty town thing to see, but unfortunately that isn't the case with Shell. She has the uncanny ability to look town and this is something that was seen in the last game. I'm seeing a lot of consistency in how she is acting vs. the last game. For that reason alone I cannot TR her just for initiating things. I am noticing that there isn't much follow up from her on the things she asks since we moved out of room phase. Sort of seeing an activity spike that's trending down.
Looking at a world where Shell is from Hell
Again looking at a world where Shell is 100% mafia as the original assignment from Ness was.
Much like Mog in my previous post, Shell was also pretty much immediately onboard with the Droqen train once Mog started it. Shell did sort of move away from it all after it was set in motion for a bit before looping back to it. I also spot a weird bit of progression going on where Shell early on says it would be the wolves best bet to lay low in regards to previous rooms, but then when the Droqen ball gets going she says this:
Feels like a very interesting switch of perspective to make so suddenly. She was also the one who kept calling Droqens disappearances convenient (twice in fact) which I always find more than a bit iffy since we never know other players IRL on-goings and those should always be NAI.
Teams, teams etc.
Shell-Ace- Possible. Shell doesn't seem to have thoughts on Ace? Ace also hasn't been trending one way or another with Shell. I'd say he's even avoided her if anything.
Shell-Betsy- Shell doesn't think Betsy was maf. Feels a bit sub-optimal for Shell to close off room 1 like this if there are only 2 wolves left. Not impossible though I guess?
Shell-Ness- Possible. Ness slight TR on Shell. Shell no thoughts on Ness.
Shell-Tessa- Unlikely or bussing.
Shell-Caffline- Possible?? Has been going all over the board so I can't pin this one down.
Shell-B100m - No. lol. Same as my take on Mog post.
Do I think Shell is wolfin?
I genuinely don't know but process of elimination between Mog and Shell makes her seem the more suspicious out of the two. It really boils down to Shell looking like she always does vs. Mog slipping and sliding and emoting all over the place in a way no wolf would. I know Shell can fake town very well, but Mogs emotions and clumsiness feel genuine and not something you would fake nor would want to fake.
With all that done and over with I have some questions.
@shellbell You said this during room phase, could you open up about your stance on Betsy at last?
@N e s s Do you have a reason why you're not invested in thoughts about Droqen right now? I kept thinking about that while writing these two posts you asked for. You pretty much limited the pool to x or y?
Shell has been pretty active in poking at others which would normally be a pretty town thing to see, but unfortunately that isn't the case with Shell. She has the uncanny ability to look town and this is something that was seen in the last game. I'm seeing a lot of consistency in how she is acting vs. the last game. For that reason alone I cannot TR her just for initiating things. I am noticing that there isn't much follow up from her on the things she asks since we moved out of room phase. Sort of seeing an activity spike that's trending down.
Looking at a world where Shell is from Hell
Again looking at a world where Shell is 100% mafia as the original assignment from Ness was.
Much like Mog in my previous post, Shell was also pretty much immediately onboard with the Droqen train once Mog started it. Shell did sort of move away from it all after it was set in motion for a bit before looping back to it. I also spot a weird bit of progression going on where Shell early on says it would be the wolves best bet to lay low in regards to previous rooms, but then when the Droqen ball gets going she says this:
Feels like a very interesting switch of perspective to make so suddenly. She was also the one who kept calling Droqens disappearances convenient (twice in fact) which I always find more than a bit iffy since we never know other players IRL on-goings and those should always be NAI.
Teams, teams etc.
Shell-Ace- Possible. Shell doesn't seem to have thoughts on Ace? Ace also hasn't been trending one way or another with Shell. I'd say he's even avoided her if anything.
Shell-Betsy- Shell doesn't think Betsy was maf. Feels a bit sub-optimal for Shell to close off room 1 like this if there are only 2 wolves left. Not impossible though I guess?
Shell-Ness- Possible. Ness slight TR on Shell. Shell no thoughts on Ness.
Shell-Tessa- Unlikely or bussing.
Shell-Caffline- Possible?? Has been going all over the board so I can't pin this one down.
Shell-B100m - No. lol. Same as my take on Mog post.
Do I think Shell is wolfin?
I genuinely don't know but process of elimination between Mog and Shell makes her seem the more suspicious out of the two. It really boils down to Shell looking like she always does vs. Mog slipping and sliding and emoting all over the place in a way no wolf would. I know Shell can fake town very well, but Mogs emotions and clumsiness feel genuine and not something you would fake nor would want to fake.
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With all that done and over with I have some questions.
@shellbell You said this during room phase, could you open up about your stance on Betsy at last?
@N e s s Do you have a reason why you're not invested in thoughts about Droqen right now? I kept thinking about that while writing these two posts you asked for. You pretty much limited the pool to x or y?
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I haven’t invested time reading Droqen yet I just feel his wagon was stupid.
Was the meme worth it dan because you can read Mog infinitely better than me
Maybe I’m going in loops and Droqen really was the mafia but it’s just… the reasoning for him dying was so flimsy. Like I said I haven’t invested time in reading Room 3 as much as 2 but eh.
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Was the meme worth it dan because you can read Mog infinitely better than me
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Maybe I’m going in loops and Droqen really was the mafia but it’s just… the reasoning for him dying was so flimsy. Like I said I haven’t invested time in reading Room 3 as much as 2 but eh.
Ace Marvel
Merry & Happy
Should I consider Sheep only making teams of two a slip?
Because Sheep is mixing rooms 1,2,3 but is never considering that all 3 wolves are alive.
Which makes me think that Sheep is the room 2 wolf.
Then it's between Shell and Mog, and the game should be locked if this is correct.
Overall the general consensus is that room 2 still have a wolf.
Because Sheep is mixing rooms 1,2,3 but is never considering that all 3 wolves are alive.
Which makes me think that Sheep is the room 2 wolf.
Then it's between Shell and Mog, and the game should be locked if this is correct.
Overall the general consensus is that room 2 still have a wolf.
Sheep Villager
Feel free to call me Sheep
Was more so looking at dynamics between mog/shell and other people rather than a full wolf line up. I wasn't exactly looking to answer the question of what the entire teams are as opposed to just how mog/shell are reacting with others?
i think this is unlikely as if they were surviving mafia together they'd have chat later, it'd be a waste to make a neighbourhood chat too - smarter move is to get a town (if tessa is mafia)
right now i'm looking at tessa as most likely, because of how quickly she just neighbourized ace, like there was no fear of hitting mafia.
it's also by POE: i don't think it's sheep just cause they seems waaay too solve-y and caffline is... consistant with how i know her to be. when i read her posts it's like i can hear her voice speaking to me lol i'm like 40% suspicious of caffline as opposed to 60% for tessa.
mog is 50/50. the dramatic-ness throws me off a lot. could be like someone (forget who) said: too clumsy to be mafia. but i don't know... it also seems a bit awkward to me. mog said they played a lot of mafia but is still asking some game mechanics questions which strikes me as strange. i guess in their defense, they said it has been a long time.
caffline is definitely new. i had a talk with her introducing her to mafia during the last game i was playing.
yeah sorry, i've been playing a lot of animal crossing and pokemon lol. also i'm awake at night when no one is around ._.
toying with fate, it was sorta a joke and sorta not - i was considering it but decided against it.
i actually decided (posted) that i'd be voting droqen at the same time you voted droqen. also i don't recall TR-ing droqen? I believe was TR-ing you more over droqen.
again, sorry, very distracted by animal crossing DLC and then ghost pause and now pokemon >.<
yes i agree, i think it was more of a joke and not a concrete thing. did i really say that twice...??
when i said that that i believe it was more betsy, it was for a really really really dumb reason - it's cause i read in a previous game droqen is like ace - and droqen has always been wrong - hence, ace is wrong >.<
but a less dumb reason: betsy was behaving like how she was in her first game where she was mafia (calling everyone suspicious) as opposed to her most recent one where she was town (pretty active poking and TR-ing fairly quickly) also she seemed waaay more quiet this time where I just think it's mafia like, and... un-betsy-like.
added with what i said about room 1 mafia probability and death. pretty sure it's betsy.
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are you guys sussing me because i seem town? lol
... i mean, thank you? hahahaha
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you literally played with damniel last game with me?
and what about betsy was suspicious to you?
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You wanna run that by me again lol
