Anyway i'm expecting to have a busy night (family coming over for festivities, guitar lessons, etc.) so i won't be posting anything too long or wordy and i'll be less active.
caffline actually putting in the vote surprised me. makes me think about is she the type of person to just start voting if she were town vs mafia.
...and the answer is i don't know and this makes me realize we gotta keep in tough better
@Caffline do you have a reason for voting tessa other than your gut?
@Sheep Villager@tessa. sorry if you've already answered but who did you think was mafia in room 2?
also unrelated: @mogyay i just noticed in your avatar there's a Stella doll so precious! I have a personal story with Stella but now's not the time haha
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oh! just realized caffline probably put in the vote this early cause she'll miss eod ...i think?
I thought I knew what I was doing but now I realize I have no clue so idk anymore
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Okay here is my IN CASE OF EMERGENCY BREAK GLASS idea, which probably not everyone is on board with but it can force a F3… assuming Ace isn’t playing me
We can just eliminate both Mog and Shell to guarantee a mafia dead, and if we assume Betsy was the mafia in Room 1 then Room 2 can probably duke it out as the F3, as I’m expecting me and Ace to be the night kills the following phases.
Debateably the safest way for town to win?? I just hate that I feel like I have 0 information because I was trying to figure out a team off interactions but I DONT KNOW THE FLIPS.
I thought I knew what I was doing but now I realize I have no clue so idk anymore
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Okay here is my IN CASE OF EMERGENCY BREAK GLASS idea, which probably not everyone is on board with but it can force a F3… assuming Ace isn’t playing me
We can just eliminate both Mog and Shell to guarantee a mafia dead, and if we assume Betsy was the mafia in Room 1 then Room 2 can probably duke it out as the F3, as I’m expecting me and Ace to be the night kills the following phases.
Debateably the safest way for town to win?? I just hate that I feel like I have 0 information because I was trying to figure out a team off interactions but I DONT KNOW THE FLIPS.
It could work yes, but I' not sure everyone agrees, yes it is the safest plan though, but will make the game really boring since we will just wait for room 2 to solve themselves.
I think Caffline feels more wolfish to me right now and I'd like your thoughts on this.
Early on in your room phase you said Caff felt too experienced but now you see her as not doing that. I actually agree that she feels more lost now and about as lost as she was early on in my room. However that one post of hers haunts me where she suddenly turned it up to eleven. Here is a link to the post in question. What I'd like to hear from you is what you think of this and the posts before it & following it.
Comparing this one post to everything else Caffline has done it's so out of left field and that post happened when there were a lot of people on her. It sorta gives me the vibe that the pressure did something so either she is pretending to be lost and is actually good OR that was a despair reaction of some sort to just go that hard out of the blue. I'm still on the fence about if the whole 'it was a RX post' thing even is genuine given what a wagonrider Caffline was with the B100m situation.
I know when I had my first game (+first wolf game at the same time) I felt inclined to pretend to be clueless - the only reason I didn't go that route was because that game had even newer people than me who didn't have experience even observing these types of games.
What do you think of all this as someone who is well-versed in the ways of the Caffline?
Okay here is my IN CASE OF EMERGENCY BREAK GLASS idea, which probably not everyone is on board with but it can force a F3… assuming Ace isn’t playing me
We can just eliminate both Mog and Shell to guarantee a mafia dead, and if we assume Betsy was the mafia in Room 1 then Room 2 can probably duke it out as the F3, as I’m expecting me and Ace to be the night kills the following phases.
Debateably the safest way for town to win?? I just hate that I feel like I have 0 information because I was trying to figure out a team off interactions but I DONT KNOW THE FLIPS.
If you want me to consider this then you're going to wanna finally tell me why you TR Ace so hard and I'm going to want to hear what everyone thinks about you specifically too.
I think I figured out the Ace situation yesterday on my own but on the off chance we aren't tapping in to the same wavelength I'd like to hear it directly from you.
If you want me to consider this then you're going to wanna finally tell me why you TR Ace so hard and I'm going to want to hear what everyone thinks about you specifically too.
I think I figured out the Ace situation yesterday on my own but on the off chance we aren't tapping in to the same wavelength I'd like to hear it directly from you.
I wasn’t 100% on it at first but Ace has interacted with every player in the game in a way that isn’t Mafia vs. Mafia. Everyone has had a run in with him in a way that is conversational, frustrated, etc. I don’t think he has faked a single interaction with someone this match.
Maybe this is a reach but I had a mild revelation about Betsy yesterday, I’m on mobile so I’ll quote it later but I kind of feel like her believing that we would know how many mafia are left after the rooms finished was mildly of a wolf mindset. Obviously the wolves would understand that their teammates are still alive, and neither Dan or Ace had taken the time to consider anything
like that.
Assuming you’re town and you’re still lost on me after I pretty much solved Ghost’s slot (before he torpedo’d himself) then idk what to tell you.
I wasn’t 100% on it at first but Ace has interacted with every player in the game in a way that isn’t Mafia vs. Mafia. Everyone has had a run in with him in a way that is conversational, frustrated, etc. I don’t think he has faked a single interaction with someone this match.
Maybe this is a reach but I had a mild revelation about Betsy yesterday, I’m on mobile so I’ll quote it later but I kind of feel like her believing that we would know how many mafia are left after the rooms finished was mildly of a wolf mindset. Obviously the wolves would understand that their teammates are still alive, and neither Dan or Ace had taken the time to consider anything
like that.
Assuming you’re town and you’re still lost on me after I pretty much solved Ghost’s slot (before he torpedo’d himself) then idk what to tell you.
Right. Looking over Aces interactions the people he hasn't much been in touch with seem to be Caffline + Shell. Admittedly that makes me a bit nervous for reasons I'm sure are obvious given my stance on both of those players.
The reason I've been TR-ing Ace more than I used to prior is he is the only one who has expressed thoughts on the fact we are technically on our last day if three Mafia remain. He expressed this before the mod lock and after that ended he has tried to ping Geoni about it. All this is something I cannot see a wolf doing since I have a feeling most of the players here haven't been too aware of this. Why bring it up as a wolf? Additionally the pinging at Geoni feels town to me since that is something you'd do in a wolf chat + it makes no sense to ask that regardless. If 3 wolves remain then Ace would know Geoni hasn't announced it, if 2 wolves remain he'd find out naturally tomorrow instead of freaking out over it in public.
As far as you go yeah, the Ghost situation is ridiculously town and I can't deny that. I also see an effort from you to solve and ask questions. A part of me is nagging at me about the fact that would it really be hard to get an easy clear via solving Ghost when his reaction was so easy to predict. Ultimately I have been leaning more and more on room 1 being solved as of this morning though and viewing my thoughts on you as more paranoia fueled than anything. I'd still like some feedback on others on that to quell my brain before I commit to your plan.
As a fun question for you: Mog or Shell first if we go with your plan.
I¡ve been thinking about it and the only way town loses before F3 is if the mafia team is Ness+Room 2, which I doubt, so I think we should follow that plan.
Out of Shell and Mog, since was not my original plan, I have no preference tbh. I will follow the rest.
Gm, skimmed through those posts but i'll read soon.
Shell honestly i'm leaning towards caffline because her votes and opinions are a lot more easily swayed and inconsistent.
however i'm willing to do the f3 plan, although at the same time i hate the responsibility of screwing up my vote and town losing because of me,haha
I’m sorry I’m just popping in to say I’m at the vets rn with my hamster , is the tldr of the plan to kill me and shell? If so nice to see everyone sheep along lmao, did ness even give a reason for why droq was so bad? I’m in a sad mood so don’t worry if I start going on an emotional rager
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I may have just misread idk , tbt rly needs to sort itself out on phone , it’s seriously terrible
I’m sorry I’m just popping in to say I’m at the vets rn with my hamster , is the tldr of the plan to kill me and shell? If so nice to see everyone sheep along lmao, did ness even give a reason for why droq was so bad? I’m in a sad mood so don’t worry if I start going on an emotional rager
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I may have just misread idk , tbt rly needs to sort itself out on phone , it’s seriously terrible
I’m sorry I’m just popping in to say I’m at the vets rn with my hamster , is the tldr of the plan to kill me and shell? If so nice to see everyone sheep along lmao, did ness even give a reason for why droq was so bad? I’m in a sad mood so don’t worry if I start going on an emotional rager
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I may have just misread idk , tbt rly needs to sort itself out on phone , it’s seriously terrible
Unrelated to everything but I hope everything goes well for your hamster. Small animal vet visits are always unbelievably stressful.
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@mogyay Do you feel like the Ghost incident could've been acting? That's sort of the big TR I have on Ness. I know you're at the vet so I'm not expecting you to pull a full ISO or anything, but has he given you distinct maf feels before this room 3 sacrifice thing?
caffline actually putting in the vote surprised me. makes me think about is she the type of person to just start voting if she were town vs mafia.
...and the answer is i don't know and this makes me realize we gotta keep in tough better
@Caffline do you have a reason for voting tessa other than your gut?
@Sheep Villager@tessa. sorry if you've already answered but who did you think was mafia in room 2?
also unrelated: @mogyay i just noticed in your avatar there's a Stella doll so precious! I have a personal story with Stella but now's not the time haha
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oh! just realized caffline probably put in the vote this early cause she'll miss eod ...i think?
I trying to think like the wolf, and what I would do in their shoes. They are the only ones with any real knowledge and can play town however they want. If I were wolf, after the room phases, I’d off a townie from the room with the strongest wolf remaining. And it would work because, as proof, no one is suspecting anyone from room one. If nothing else, it leaves room 1 safe for two rounds while we eliminate from the other rooms just by odds.
Just pure guessing, I think there’s 2 wolves left - and I think the most experienced one is in room 1. I have just as much chance on guessing room 2 and 3. Again, if I were wolf and had the neighbourizer, I’d neighbourize another wolf. I don’t trust any town that can be confident vouching for anyone else right now. Only a wolf can be sure, so that’s why I don’t like Ace and tessa’s vibe.
But all that is from pure speculation and maybe what I would do. I could be completely wrong and I don’t have previous experience to go off of. So my vote for tessa is because everyone mentioned eliminating from room 2 today. Like you said, Sheep is working real hard for town - I’m just not willing to vote Sheep right now. Lol if Sheep ends up a wolf, welp…
I'm here for the day and will remain here until EOD except for food breaks and what have you.
I think Caffline feels more wolfish to me right now and I'd like your thoughts on this.
Early on in your room phase you said Caff felt too experienced but now you see her as not doing that. I actually agree that she feels more lost now and about as lost as she was early on in my room. However that one post of hers haunts me where she suddenly turned it up to eleven. Here is a link to the post in question. What I'd like to hear from you is what you think of this and the posts before it & following it.
Comparing this one post to everything else Caffline has done it's so out of left field and that post happened when there were a lot of people on her. It sorta gives me the vibe that the pressure did something so either she is pretending to be lost and is actually good OR that was a despair reaction of some sort to just go that hard out of the blue. I'm still on the fence about if the whole 'it was a RX post' thing even is genuine given what a wagonrider Caffline was with the B100m situation.
I know when I had my first game (+first wolf game at the same time) I felt inclined to pretend to be clueless - the only reason I didn't go that route was because that game had even newer people than me who didn't have experience even observing these types of games.
What do you think of all this as someone who is well-versed in the ways of the Caffline?
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If you want me to consider this then you're going to wanna finally tell me why you TR Ace so hard and I'm going to want to hear what everyone thinks about you specifically too.
I think I figured out the Ace situation yesterday on my own but on the off chance we aren't tapping in to the same wavelength I'd like to hear it directly from you.
Alright, Dunning-Kruger effect - I was at peak stupid confidence. I saw how you operated and followed suite… but I had no good follow up. I tried to get a feel for tessa, and got nothing but doubt.
I don’t think I bandwagoned on b100ming - I said I went off face value and wasn’t going to read too deep for room phase, and you and tessa were just more convincing.
And if it appears that I am lost, it’s usually because I am lost.
Alright, Dunning-Kruger effect - I was at peak stupid confidence. I saw how you operated and followed suite… but I had no good follow up. I tried to get a feel for tessa, and got nothing but doubt.
I don’t think I bandwagoned on b100ming - I said I went off face value and wasn’t going to read too deep for room phase, and you and tessa were just more convincing.
And if it appears that I am lost, it’s usually because I am lost.
I admit I have considered the option that you were mimicking what I did but I can't place if you did that as a town or as a wolf excuse. Unfortunately for you it works both ways.
What are your thoughts on the plan Ness is currently proposing? If I take your word for it you believe there are two wolves and one of them is in 1 - does that mean Droqen is clear to you since you're sussing Tessa atm.
I thought I knew what I was doing but now I realize I have no clue so idk anymore
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Okay here is my IN CASE OF EMERGENCY BREAK GLASS idea, which probably not everyone is on board with but it can force a F3… assuming Ace isn’t playing me
We can just eliminate both Mog and Shell to guarantee a mafia dead, and if we assume Betsy was the mafia in Room 1 then Room 2 can probably duke it out as the F3, as I’m expecting me and Ace to be the night kills the following phases.
Debateably the safest way for town to win?? I just hate that I feel like I have 0 information because I was trying to figure out a team off interactions but I DONT KNOW THE FLIPS.
Say if 2 wolves are remaining in room 1 & 2, and none are in room 3 - would mafia win if we go by this? If not, I’m willing to re-vote. But I have town vibes from Shell and Mog. I don’t think Shell is wolf, but I feel like she can convince me of anything if she wanted soo idk. I really don’t think it’s Mog.
probably should've worded that differently
so precious! I have a personal story with Stella but now's not the time haha
