Official Apollo Justice Discussion Thread

Gengar said:
Bulerias said:
Gengar said:
So, what do we think guys?

Apollo Justice > PW 1-3 ???
PW 3 > Apollo Justice >>>>>>> PW 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PW 2

Nothing can beat the last case in PW 3... it was just unbelievably amazing.
I loved PW 2. D:

It had the whole Morgan Fey case. That was one of my personal favorites.
PW 2 was just under for me, it didn't have a great soundtrack, and nothing really to distinguish it from the pack that much. I really liked the Shelly deKiller case. The game wasn't overly connected to the larger plot, either.
 
Gengar said:
Shadow_] [quote="Gengar said:
Bulerias said:
Gengar said:
So, what do we think guys?

Apollo Justice > PW 1-3 ???
PW 3 > Apollo Justice >>>>>>> PW 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PW 2

Nothing can beat the last case in PW 3... it was just unbelievably amazing.
I loved PW 2. D:

It had the whole Morgan Fey case. That was one of my personal favorites.
PW 2 was just under for me, it didn't have a great soundtrack, and nothing really to distinguish it from the pack that much. I really liked the Shelly deKiller case. The game wasn't overly connected to the larger plot, either.
What about the whole Fey thing that tied in with PW3's final case? D: [/quote]
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Oh! I forgot about the Fey thing.
 
Gengar said:
Bah, they're all still great, I guess. But yeah...I suppose the 2nd one could have been better...
Duh, of course they're all fantastic


:p

It's like... PW 3 is amazingly fantastic, Apollo Justice is amazingly great, Phoenix Wright 1 was absolute greatness, and Phoenix Wright 2 was... just plain great.

Hahahaha.


:p
 
Oh yeah, and I'll be honest -- Morgan Fey isn't my favorite PW character


:p

I think that distinction goes to Godot. He was just... wow.

Edgeworth was great, too. I really liked Ini Miney for some reason, too.
 
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:p The thing I liked about Apollo Justice's cases... is that the first one starts out with a big a turnabout as any other case, what with you finding your mentor guilty. Also, there isn't really four cases, but five if you include the extraordinarily long fourth case as two, which includes the Mason system and PW's last case.
 
Bulerias said:
Oh yeah, and I'll be honest -- Morgan Fey isn't my favorite PW character


:p

I think that distinction goes to Godot. He was just... wow.

Edgeworth was great, too. I really liked Ini Miney for some reason, too.
My favorite Phoenix Wright character....? They are all so unique and likable... and Godot can make toast with his face... but I think my favorite is Edgeworth. He was really worked into the first three titles more than Godot. I also like Godot, Trucy, Phoenix Wright himself (he's all-knowing in the latest installment), the rockin' Gavin... etc.
 
Edgeworth was in all the games, yeah, and he plays a monumentally important role, but at the same time, I think Godot played an equally important, but behind-the-scenes role.

His story was very closely weaved into Phoenix's... with the Mia thing and all...
 
Bulerias said:
Edgeworth was in all the games, yeah, and he plays a monumentally important role, but at the same time, I think Godot played an equally important, but behind-the-scenes role.

His story was very closely weaved into Phoenix's... with the Mia thing and all...
Don't forget he can make toast with his face.
 
Bulerias said:
Edgeworth was in all the games, yeah, and he plays a monumentally important role, but at the same time, I think Godot played an equally important, but behind-the-scenes role.

His story was very closely weaved into Phoenix's... with the Mia thing and all...

I did like how Godot's story tied to Phoenix's. But I think I may even prefer the way Apollo and Kristoph tied to each other...mentor, accused...I dunno', I just thought that was amazing.

And, guys, Morgan Fey takes the cake for best character.


:p

And I'm sure she'll be the "final boss" of GS5. It makes perfect sense...I mean, in a way, you might say that she's been the "final boss" so far. Even though Dahlia was the big deal in PW3, Morgan was the one pulling the strings.


;)
 
Gengar said:
Bulerias said:
Edgeworth was in all the games, yeah, and he plays a monumentally important role, but at the same time, I think Godot played an equally important, but behind-the-scenes role.

His story was very closely weaved into Phoenix's... with the Mia thing and all...

I did like how Godot's story tied to Phoenix's. But I think I may even prefer the way Apollo and Kristoph tied to each other...mentor, accused...I dunno', I just thought that was amazing.

And, guys, Morgan Fey takes the cake for best character.


:p

And I'm sure she'll be the "final boss" of GS5. It makes perfect sense...I mean, in a way, you might say that she's been the "final boss" so far. Even though Dahlia was the big deal in PW3, Morgan was the one pulling the strings.


;)
I bet she will make an appearance, the story kind of halted without much of an ending.
 
Wasn't Dahlia the main villain in PW3? I guess it's sort of open to interpretation.

Now, I have a question about Apollo Justice... Near the end of the Mason System, when you visit Kristoph for the first time, he has a huge amount of Psyche-Locks, and they're all a different color than usual...

And you never end up breaking them.

What was his true reason for murdering the painter and attempting to poison Vera? I guess we'll find out in GS5, but I have a feeling it's a lot deeper than simply wanting to keep their mouths shut regarding the forgeries.
 
Bulerias said:
Wasn't Dahlia the main villain in PW3? I guess it's sort of open to interpretation.

Now, I have a question about Apollo Justice... Near the end of the Mason System, when you visit Kristoph for the first time, he has a huge amount of Psyche-Locks, and they're all a different color than usual...

And you never end up breaking them.

What was his true reason for murdering the painter and attempting to poison Vera? I guess we'll find out in GS5, but I have a feeling it's a lot deeper than simply wanting to keep their mouths shut regarding the forgeries.
I'm still wondering about those crazy Psyche-Locks, what question did you ask him again to get them to appear?

I'm more interested in why he got them to forge evidence in the first place, seeing as he was facing his own brother, in his brother's first case.
 
Shadow_] [quote="Bulerias said:
Wasn't Dahlia the main villain in PW3? I guess it's sort of open to interpretation.

Now, I have a question about Apollo Justice... Near the end of the Mason System, when you visit Kristoph for the first time, he has a huge amount of Psyche-Locks, and they're all a different color than usual...

And you never end up breaking them.

What was his true reason for murdering the painter and attempting to poison Vera? I guess we'll find out in GS5, but I have a feeling it's a lot deeper than simply wanting to keep their mouths shut regarding the forgeries.
I'm still wondering about those crazy Psyche-Locks, what question did you ask him again to get them to appear?

I'm more interested in why he got them to forge evidence in the first place, seeing as he was facing his own brother, in his brother's first case. [/quote]
"Why did you REALLY murder the painter/poison Vera?"

I do believe that was the question. He... didn't answer. Though, in court, it was proved that he poisoned them to prevent any leak regarding the forgeries... that sounds like a pretty bad reason to poison someone.

Blackmail might've been just as effective. So I think it's a lot deeper than that.

Actually, he knew he would not face his brother in that case. He purposely set up Phoenix to lose his attorney's badge.
 
Ahh, actually, I'm reading court-records.net's forums, and apparently that was NOT Kristoph's motive. Apparently, it was just to teach the magicians to choose a different defense attorney. Remember how he lost at cards to Zak, and thus Phoenix was chosen as the attorney?

Hmm... sounds like a very flimsy motive. I don't buy it.
 
Bulerias said:
Shadow_] [quote="Bulerias said:
Wasn't Dahlia the main villain in PW3? I guess it's sort of open to interpretation.

Now, I have a question about Apollo Justice... Near the end of the Mason System, when you visit Kristoph for the first time, he has a huge amount of Psyche-Locks, and they're all a different color than usual...

And you never end up breaking them.

What was his true reason for murdering the painter and attempting to poison Vera? I guess we'll find out in GS5, but I have a feeling it's a lot deeper than simply wanting to keep their mouths shut regarding the forgeries.
I'm still wondering about those crazy Psyche-Locks, what question did you ask him again to get them to appear?

I'm more interested in why he got them to forge evidence in the first place, seeing as he was facing his own brother, in his brother's first case.
"Why did you REALLY murder the painter/poison Vera?"

I do believe that was the question. He... didn't answer. Though, in court, it was proved that he poisoned them to prevent any leak regarding the forgeries... that sounds like a pretty bad reason to poison someone.

Blackmail might've been just as effective. So I think it's a lot deeper than that.

Actually, he knew he would not face his brother in that case. He purposely set up Phoenix to lose his attorney's badge. [/quote]
Hm. This obviously runs deeper than what we explored in court. Maybe it's that nobody found out about his real motives that caused him to laugh maniacally after the trail was over. We'll find out in the next one, hopefully, what kind of grudge he has against Phoenix Wright. For all we know, he could be Godot's cousin and Maya's grandmother, what with all the insane plot twists in the series XD...

Who chose Guilty?
 
Bulerias said:
Ahh, actually, I'm reading court-records.net's forums, and apparently that was NOT Kristoph's motive. Apparently, it was just to teach the magicians to choose a different defense attorney. Remember how he lost at cards to Zak, and thus Phoenix was chosen as the attorney?

Hmm... sounds like a very flimsy motive. I don't buy it.
I wouldn't frame a man (twice) for losing a client.
 
No way in hell would I ever choose guilty, lol. Though I thought about it for a moment... I was looking at that screen for over 5 minutes.

I gasped when I saw who actually pressed the button. That was the best plot twist in the game...

Lamiroir's identity, I mean. And HER THEME SONG... WOW.

But yeah, I don't think we know Kristoph's true motives. But for some reason, I felt really sad about giving him the guilty verdict. I don't know why... he just didn't seem like the stereotypical villain. I think he might have a tragic past or something...
 
Shadow_] [quote="Bulerias said:
Ahh, actually, I'm reading court-records.net's forums, and apparently that was NOT Kristoph's motive. Apparently, it was just to teach the magicians to choose a different defense attorney. Remember how he lost at cards to Zak, and thus Phoenix was chosen as the attorney?

Hmm... sounds like a very flimsy motive. I don't buy it.
I wouldn't frame a man (twice) for losing a client. [/quote]
Which is why I'm pretty sure Kristoph's motive is a lot more complicated than simply pride.
 
Bulerias said:
No way in hell would I ever choose guilty, lol. Though I thought about it for a moment... I was looking at that screen for over 5 minutes.

I gasped when I saw who actually pressed the button. That was the best plot twist in the game...

Lamiroir's identity, I mean. And HER THEME SONG... WOW.

But yeah, I don't think we know Kristoph's true motives. But for some reason, I felt really sad about giving him the guilty verdict. I don't know why... he just didn't seem like the stereotypical villain. I think he might have a tragic past or something...
I don't know, there were some pretty memorable plot twists. Yeah, I looked at the screen for a while... I thought there'd be a catch of some sort


:p It makes sense now, when we think about it, who Lamirior is.
 
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