Alrighty guys, time for your favorite time of the day! My ISO is here! *Insert kawaii Japanese emoji* I'm going to do one of them now, I'll do my ISO on Panda tomorrow.
- In short words, he does very little to contribute.In almost all of his post, he gives an excuse of his absence or lack of providing concrete opinions.
Let us look at a few of the unnecessary excuses he gives us instead of actually playing shall we?
This to me, seems like typical noobish scum behavior. Trying to slip under the radar, but feels that they must give reason to further avoid detection.
In the actual playing posts he has, they seem very unconfident and lazy.
What I was trying to get at is, Tom was saying that we should lynch him because he is annoying and he doesn't want to deal with that.
I initially thought Trojan wanted to back off a little bit so he wouldn't come off as annoying this game and he could get on people's good side so they would not mislynch.
But now that Trojan said that he was just unmotivated to play/**** post, my read on him becomes invalid.
He could come back motivated, start **** posting again, and get annoying like Tom says.
I don't like to go against my gut usually (gut tells me he's town) because that's how I personally play mafia, but if a policy lynch is in effect, Trojan could be a good guess
No it doesn't, don't back off just because someone has an excuse for their odd behavior does not mean your read is worthless. Seems to be a weak press on Trojan, and backs off quickly to not be responsible for leading a lynch on town.
I know a policy lynch is sometimes needed, so I'm not completely against the idea of one
but i think Tom's reasoning to lynch Trojan was a little bit weak.
If i were to vote Trojan today, it would be because the "I am not motivated right now" statement
But, the policy lynch on Trojan bandwagon that Tom tried to start seemed thoughtless to me, and Trojan swings equally Town or Scum in my thoughts
thats why i haven't voted yet
Side note, I really don't want to No Lynch but if it is 1 hour before time is up and my mind still hasn't been made up, i think thats the direction ill be headed
(Also I am using the bolded names too, very helpful!)
I cannot even begin to say how illogical this sounds. You aren't against a policy lynch, but at the same time are as you believe Tom's case is weak? But "I'm not motivating" is a strong enough reason to vote? Not following.
I am not as skilled as most players here, I've only played about 4 or 5 games, so I don't have as well reads as you guys.
My vote for today is either going to:
No Lynch
Trojan (not likely to vote him)
M3ow_ / Kit
based off other's opinions on lynching inactives and people's last minute votes, that's how I will determine out of these 3.
Read all the posts I missed. Looks like we're still looking for a lynch candidate, investigation is still hot and in progress, and no bandwagon is underway.
Voting an inactive.
Not only does the "I'm not as skilled" appears to me as "I'm not as good so I'm playing bad because of that!". but the reason of voting is very flawed. While voting for an inactive isn't a problem with me, the fact that the reason for lynching an inactive overturns the Trojan vote sits as well with me as spoiled milk. While i personally like Trojan, lynching him because he quiet frankly is terrible town is a hell of a lot better reason to vote then just an inactive. Honestly, I stopped reading his post after a while because it's all fluff(no offense.)
Overall, something does not sit well with me. I see his gameplay as screaming new inexperienced scum.
This is who i believe has the most evidence and definitely a good lynch candidate, but I honestly don't see him as a threat other then for the KP he's worth. I'm more in favor of finding the more experienced scum leader(s). Once we kill them, the others will surely show their true colors if they have no guidance. In the process of pinning down who i think they would be, leaning towards Ender honestly. I believe Panda is scum too, but this 1 ISO took so long so I'll do her's tomorrow, get ready Panda!
Uhhhhh. You do realise I've literally had you as town all game??? At what point did you get the impression I was going to try framing you and/or attacking you? I mean, I was going to reread both of you in light of this situation, but I still don't understand why and where this idea that I'd blindly support what Minties was doing comes from???
I am aware. Just because you have me read as town, doesn't mean that you're town or that you're not working outside of the thread to have me killed and people framed. Granted I could be wrong about you, but the way you're acting this game bugs me.
It's going into consideration when i hunt for vet scum. I don't want to take a stand on it quite yet until I get a better understanding of exactly what's been going on this game.
It's going into consideration when i hunt for vet scum. I don't want to take a stand on it quite yet until I get a better understanding of exactly what's been going on this game.
- In short words, he does very little to contribute.In almost all of his post, he gives an excuse of his absence or lack of providing concrete opinions.
Let us look at a few of the unnecessary excuses he gives us instead of actually playing shall we?
The first quote you got was me answering a question "how active will you be" or something. It was not an excuse.
The other two were letting you guys know I will not be on, I thought you guys would take it the wrong way if I just stopped commenting if I were asked questions when I was gone.
This to me, seems like typical noobish scum behavior. Trying to slip under the radar, but feels that they must give reason to further avoid detection.
In the actual playing posts he has, they seem very unconfident and lazy.
No it doesn't, don't back off just because someone has an excuse for their odd behavior does not mean your read is worthless. Seems to be a weak press on Trojan, and backs off quickly to not be responsible for leading a lynch on town.
I wouldn't say lazy, but definitely unconfident. So far throughout this game I get the feeling you guys have looked down on people who agree with other's reads or opinions, saying it was "bandwagoning" and unoriginal.
Not only does the "I'm not as skilled" appears to me as "I'm not as good so I'm playing bad because of that!". but the reason of voting is very flawed. While voting for an inactive isn't a problem with me, the fact that the reason for lynching an inactive overturns the Trojan vote sits as well with me as spoiled milk. While i personally like Trojan, lynching him because he quiet frankly is terrible town is a hell of a lot better reason to vote then just an inactive. Honestly, I stopped reading his post after a while because it's all fluff(no offense.)
This kind of goes with my response above, I say "im not as skilled" because you guys already posts super smart reads and im like "yea i agree with that!" in my head, but i dont say it so yall wont think im just bandwagoning.
When I was thinking of who to vote, I didn't nessicarily find n e s s scummy at all, therefore I keep him outta my possible lynch candidates.
I was thinking trojan then you guys were posting your reads on him that made sense and convinced me, too, that he shouldn't be lynched
day was ending, everyone was hastily posting last minute reads, I decided to vote an inactive.
I hope that helps explain a little bit, but if you have any questions lmk tho
Alrighty guys, time for your favorite time of the day! My ISO is here! *Insert kawaii Japanese emoji* I'm going to do one of them now, I'll do my ISO on Panda tomorrow.
- In short words, he does very little to contribute.In almost all of his post, he gives an excuse of his absence or lack of providing concrete opinions.
Let us look at a few of the unnecessary excuses he gives us instead of actually playing shall we?
This to me, seems like typical noobish scum behavior. Trying to slip under the radar, but feels that they must give reason to further avoid detection.
In the actual playing posts he has, they seem very unconfident and lazy.
No it doesn't, don't back off just because someone has an excuse for their odd behavior does not mean your read is worthless. Seems to be a weak press on Trojan, and backs off quickly to not be responsible for leading a lynch on town.
I cannot even begin to say how illogical this sounds. You aren't against a policy lynch, but at the same time are as you believe Tom's case is weak? But "I'm not motivating" is a strong enough reason to vote? Not following.
Not only does the "I'm not as skilled" appears to me as "I'm not as good so I'm playing bad because of that!". but the reason of voting is very flawed. While voting for an inactive isn't a problem with me, the fact that the reason for lynching an inactive overturns the Trojan vote sits as well with me as spoiled milk. While i personally like Trojan, lynching him because he quiet frankly is terrible town is a hell of a lot better reason to vote then just an inactive. Honestly, I stopped reading his post after a while because it's all fluff(no offense.)
Overall, something does not sit well with me. I see his gameplay as screaming new inexperienced scum.
This is who i believe has the most evidence and definitely a good lynch candidate, but I honestly don't see him as a threat other then for the KP he's worth. I'm more in favor of finding the more experienced scum leader(s). Once we kill them, the others will surely show their true colors if they have no guidance. In the process of pinning down who i think they would be, leaning towards Ender honestly. I believe Panda is scum too, but this 1 ISO took so long so I'll do her's tomorrow, get ready Panda!
Well I was thinking Ender or Jacob, but I'm leaning more to Ender due to more justified reasons, as Jacob is a hard read at the moment. Originally Minties could've been a good lynch candidate in my eyes, but I'm leaning her as town on her previous posts even though I trust you more than her which doesn't really line up but whatever. Minties is still a huge threat, and was early townread by Enders, so depending on what he flips, I say it would be good to look further into her.
Well I was thinking Ender or Jacob, but I'm leaning more to Ender due to more justified reasons, as Jacob is a hard read at the moment. Originally Minties could've been a good lynch candidate in my eyes, but I'm leaning her as town on her previous posts even though I trust you more than her which doesn't really line up but whatever. Minties is still a huge threat, and was early townread by Enders, so depending on what he flips, I say it would be good to look further into her.
ok sorry everyone I've been pretty busy... I've been trying to keep up with the thread and im gonna post some general thought and reads i have on a couple people.
The Deceased: Ness Ayaya Sarasakat Kit Sataric
The Living: Trojan, Minties, Tom, Call me Daniel, Lucanosa, EnderWiggin, Runeraider, M3ow_, Doughssant, Trundle, Jacob, Zoolka and of course myself.
Ender seems sus to me because of the way he handled a PM i sent him among other things, but in the PM i sent him it simply said "hey whats going on" he replied " is there a specific question you want to ask cause i want to keep most of my post in the thread to help town" and i replied "nope" it just seems off to me cause i wasn't asking for any valuable information from him and if he was town don't you think he would take the opportunity to maybe build a bridge of trust and work together, it felt to me like he was scum going... i don't need to talk to you, i already know your not on my side. and lets not forget that he pretty much single handedly got Ness lynched, yes i know i also voted for Ness but i mostly did that because of his strange behavior and to keep myself from getting lynched.
@Ender why do you townread Minties? I don't have time to formulate the post right now, but I'm almost positive there's scum in the QT everyone is referring to, and I can't figure out if it's Tom or Minties but honestly at least one of them has to be scum. Not gonna lie Ender some of your posts are wishy-washy, but the only reason I trust you for the time being is because you were jailed and Sataric let you live, I just feel like Sataric would have killed you if there was any sort of doubt.
Too bad wills aren't allowed... Because I'm not completely ruling out the chance that Sataric jailed & killed one of the dead.
Anyway I find it completely anti-town that instead of Tom saying he was town aligned to Kit when she claimed blue he just said "I'm not red I'll tell you that." In Tom's argument in reply to Minties, he said that he wouldn't risk sending his scumteam after Sataric given his claim. While this may be logically true, this sentence completely rubs me the wrong way. I've suspected him since D1 as scum, but now I'm thinking there's a good chance he's 3rd party.
I need to do some more rereading after school and then I'll post a better analysis.
also this is a very good point which you kinda just ignored, what if you were even the one jailed last night. i wish there were wills so that we knew if you were lying as well.
Daniel has been acting completely unlike himself, he is usually the person with the most post he is always around to reply to people very quickly and he even jokes around a bit, but this game i feel like he is just trying to blend into the background, while still contributing enough to seem helpful and he seems to have just came out of nowhere and joined this whole "ya lets take down Panda thing" seems to me like the scum team might have said "we're trying to get Panda lynched" and he joined in right away.
Trundle im not sure if he is so aggressive because he is trying to intimate town or if he is trying to scum hunt by insulting everyone ? doesn't make much sense to me.
Tom claims to be third party but says its in his favor to work with town... so do you want to share more about your role ? cause that seems highly unlikely, especially when it says on the bottom of all of our Role PM's that we need to eliminated mafia and third party. maybe he is trying to seem town sided and gather as much enough as he can for mafia so mafia can take the bulk of us out ?
- sorry if this is a **** post its 4 am and like i said its been a long day.
Pissy that I'm up against a pretty basic ass Mafia team. If you don't end up being scum Minties, I'm going to be suprised. You're trying very hard to make it sound like I shot everyone I came into contact with. As requested here's the PMs with Kit:
I replied: "Yeah that was Trundle. If Sat asks you to claim, don't. Indecisive over what?"
Your first quote (#507) I'm not seeing the relevance to this all. Second quote (#476) was two minutes after voting closed where yes I was pissed that we let an easy mafia lynch on Trojan go because you guys questions Sarasa who was obviosly town, flipped to Panda who I'm unsure of, and then settled on Ness because he was beinga dolt. No actual case on Trojan, however I'd like to remind everyne you weren't opposed to lynching Trojan as well. Please don't take some moral high ground here Mentos.
Post (#509) I talked about the now defunct QT between Ness, Sataric and Ayaya. I wanted to read it considering the scheming Ness did in the background and how others were talking about I wanted to read it to determine more about Sataric.
The QT between Sataric, Ayaya, and I is still not locked so I'm not sharing it just yet. I can't delete or remove anything from it, so it's not like I have anything to hide. Quote/Post #605 took place 15 mintues after the day post. Secondly all the communication with Ayaya was directly through LINE so I'm afraid you won't find anymore quotes to take out of context from me.
Nope haven't started on those reads yet Spongemints. I'm sure you and Ender would very much like those to frame me ever more, but right now let's focus on your faulty case. That quote (Pst #574) was an hour before day start, at the time I was bouncing between chats with Trundle, Ayaya and Kit. So no I didn't start reads. Also you can't hide your policy lynch wanting ass by voting for Ness.
No at this point I'm more covinced there was more you said to Kit that you're just hiding now Minties.
Hiding? Lol I've been one of the most vocal players in this thread. I'm just examining the stuff that has happened in the game so far and you ended up looking super scummy to me. I know you really want to make me look like scum. You're not going to post ANY reads just shows that you really can't make up any good ones because you're not town aligned. Since you've soft claimed yellow, I still don't think you're here to help us. TBH, I'd think the scenario is more likely that you're a serial killer considering my win con says hostile third parties.
There is three colors for me to bleed ya know, green, blue and yeller. Either way, it is entirely in my interests to work with town unless things go sideways. Also if I was a killer TP, I wouldn't risk visiting Sataric since as far as I was concerned he was a Granny/PGO.
I don't think you would have visited Sataric because he claimed PGO, I think it's far more likely that you killed Kit or even Ayaya because you seemed pretty pissed at her for being in that QT and baiting role reactions out of you.
I left that top quote in there by accident because I was focusing on you still tunnelling Trojan. So your defense is OH YOU WANTED TO POLICY LYNCH TOO!!!!111!! solid effort there Tommyboy. The difference is that I actually didn't vote for Trojan and instead took time to try and make a case. Yes that quickly devolved into an argument with Sarasa, but I tried unlike you. You basically voted for Trojan and then contributed nothing else.
Don't you think that you can use my sassy lemon. I am the lemon sassmaster.
Hi friends did we also forget about Trundle?
tbh I would be perfectly happy with a Tom, Dough or Jacob lynch today.
I will post more on Jacob and Dough tomorrow morning when I wake up as I'm not that useful right now. I'll make sure it's before the deadline.
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o yeah also I forgot to add my PMs with Kit for Tom, who was accusing me of hiding. I only had about 4 with them before they were slaughtered.
The game possibly D:
So I'm also talking to your scumbuddie tommy boy (and well, half of the player list that I bothered to message tbh)
And um
My role scares me
Not talking to sat either lol.
Sat scares me because first thing he said was "NOBODY TOUCH ME YOULL DIE" and I was just like that's the dumbest thing you could possibly make as your first post.
Like, okay, maybe everyone will listen to you and avoid you. But that includes mafia I I I arghhh.
Yeah I don't believe that claim for a second.
Tom claims to be third party but says its in his favor to work with town... so do you want to share more about your role ? cause that seems highly unlikely, especially when it says on the bottom of all of our Role PM's that we need to eliminated mafia and third party. maybe he is trying to seem town sided and gather as much enough as he can for mafia so mafia can take the bulk of us out?
I don't recall coming out and saying Third Party, but take it for what you will. If you re-read your role PM, you'd know the deal about third parties. But maybe mafia got a different PM and wincon? ))))))) I dunno I don't know what to think of this game honestly I've been busy watching my brother. Gather what though? I don't have your role, at least that you confirmed to me. Out of the living I only know the roles of two people, but only because they chose to share that with me.
@Minties: If you're so conviced I'm scum, why is your case against me so ****ty? It's more flawed than you're usual stuff and there's a lot of illogical leaps. Not to mention it seems pretty clear cut to me that I'm being framed, especially given it's something I suggested scum would do and WHOOP BIG SURPRISE. I didn't think you'd be one to drink that wine placed in front of ya.
I didn't make a case because I was more than convinced on Trojan's behavior change that it was a good enough reason to lynch him day one. At the very least I thought it was better than the case against Ness, since it was clear to me he was just being his usual self. Yeah he kept jumping around votes, but he was doing his bst to show he was with town.
Yeah I haven't posted reads because I've been busy watching my little brother, he wound up getting e coli from something and since I've been the only one off I've been having to make sure he's okay. So no, haven't had the time to re-read the thread and post reads. I can try to do that later, but don't pretend reads wold magically clear me Mouthies. TBH I trust Dough enough to keep them alive, but undecided on Jacob.
Honestly if you guys really wanna know I am Elisa the Veteran, let this dispel all the killer third party thoughts thanks.
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Also if you guys trust me enough, I would really like to lead a counter lynch on Minties. I realize without a case and with me being under the magnifiying glass this looks incredibly scummy, but Minties is a smart enough player to realize she'd being baited into a trick. So since she's clearly falling for said WIFOM, it seems pretty obvious that if she probably set it up. Lets think about this after all.
Through the thread it's revealed I am communicating with Sataric and Ayaya. Kit shares with Minties that they're PMing me. So unless Sataric jailed and killed Kit (probably for their silence until like an hour before night ends), that's extra ammunition against me. Or at least convenient ammunition.
There is three colors for me to bleed ya know, green, blue and yeller. Either way, it is entirely in my interests to work with town unless things go sideways. Also if I was a killer TP, I wouldn't risk visiting Sataric since as far as I was concerned he was a Granny/PGO.
Yeah I haven't posted reads because I've been busy watching my little brother, he wound up getting e coli from something and since I've been the only one off I've been having to make sure he's okay. So no, haven't had the time to re-read the thread and post reads. I can try to do that later, but don't pretend reads wold magically clear me Mouthies. TBH I trust Dough enough to keep them alive, but undecided on Jacob.
Honestly if you guys really wanna know I am Elisa the Veteran, let this dispel all the killer third party thoughts thanks.
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Also if you guys trust me enough, I would really like to lead a counter lynch on Minties. I realize without a case and with me being under the magnifiying glass this looks incredibly scummy, but Minties is a smart enough player to realize she'd being baited into a trick. So since she's clearly falling for said WIFOM, it seems pretty obvious that if she probably set it up. Lets think about this after all.
Through the thread it's revealed I am communicating with Sataric and Ayaya. Kit shares with Minties that they're PMing me. So unless Sataric jailed and killed Kit (probably for their silence until like an hour before night ends), that's extra ammunition against me. Or at least convenient ammunition.
Yikes I hope ur bro gets better soon,
and Minties said shes gonna post reads today, so let's wait to see what she has to say before starting a lynch on her.
(I have a sweet 16 to go to in 6 hours and I'll be gone all night so I'm gonna need my vote in by 7 est and I want to be a little more sure on my vote)
I'm actually really having doubts about my reads earlier in the game on Minties in general. I feel like I might be biased though because I have been in contact with Tom this game. He never mentioned too much about Minties in PMs except a few side comments as far as I remember. And brb I am doing stuff gtg I will finish this later
@Tom it's kind of interesting that you say Minties argument against you is weak and yet you basically want to lynch her for attacking you, without giving your own argument... I understand you're busy though- but it only makes sense that she's putting pressure on you, I felt off about several of your posts as well because of the way that you're posting this game. But after your claim it's a bad idea to lynch you today, not saying I fully trust you at all. In your PM to Kit, you should have just said that you're town aligned, because Kit literally claimed blue to you. And when we questioned you about it here, you should have just clarified that you're NOT 3rd party. The way that whole thing was phrased was weird, and it bothers me that you had to claim instead of just stating your alignment to Kit in the first place.
Guys, please stop claiming to Tom or telling other people's roles to Tom. if you do roleclaim, you should tell someone else who you roleclaimed to (or say it in the thread, but don't say what ofc) I'm almost positive that this is how Kit died basically, whether it was Tom or Minties or someone else that Kit shared their role to I have no idea, and now we can't keep track because I'm under the impression Kit claimed to several people. So if you do decide to claim, please keep track of who you claim to and share who you told with others so that in case you die, we know exactly who knew your role.
Also, it's day again and still absolutely nothing from Runeraider or Lucanosa. I'm pretty upset rn, I can't believe we lynched a valuable player like Ness rather than a lurker that's pretty impossible to read since they don't post. And literally the only time Runeraider posted was at night, tunneling on a player that (fmpov) was really valuable to town, and knew the backstory of this game. I don't find it a coincidence that the people that knew the most about Papers, Please died.
Daniel is pretty quiet as well.
Ender- is someone that I'm starting to get more and more uneasy about. I find his interaction with some of the players in the thread really odd, like how he just townread Tom and Minties and still hasn't answered my question as to why. Minties is a strong player, and you can't just say that "because of her input" because she's more than capable of forming arguments and this doesn't make her town. As for Tom, it's even more questionable that you townread him and still aren't saying why.
For some reason, and I can't exactly put my finger on why, the way that Ender told us about being jailed felt off to me.
Oh, also, I was with Sataric last night in the Jail. He stated quite comfortably that he thought Panda was town. Take that with a grain of salt but I figure it could be relevant.
He didn't actually share who he was. He asked me for my role and name, asked me for my reads, then we talked a little bit. He kept himself anonymous. Mostly he asked for my thoughts on things, he didn't actually reveal much. The panda thing was mostly in response to me saying I minor-scumread panda.
He mentions this in passing like "oh yeah I was jailed, this could be relevant" and broke it up into several posts. lmao if I was jailed and then the jailer died I would write out in detail what the conversation was, what I said, and any other details that were important.
Also busy with irl/work but will get back tonight with reads. I've been a fairly common mafia N1 kill so I'm not holding onto my reads until night ends.
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A NEW CHALLENGER APPEARS.
I would like you to present some reads after finishing all of your read through please.
when I first read about Ender being jailed, and he added in that detail about Sataric ending every message with that, it felt genuine. but looking over it again, I realized that he's actually played the game and so he's more than capable of tying in information from it to what he's saying.... And also, I'm pretty sure Sataric has said this phrase in the thread before. The list of people that have played Papers, Please here is pretty small as far as I know, most of us have not played the game. Sataric must know this, so why would Sataric add a message like that when he jailed Ender? While it's nice fluff, if Ender lived and were scum, then all he would have to do is narrow it down between the people that were questioning him in the thread and the people that know about the game well enough to add that. Which would narrow it down to very few players, and it'd be easy to identify the Jailer. This just doesn't seem something like Sataric would do to me- because it risks his identity for fluff.
Anyway, I went back to GoT Mafia when Ender was scum, and his posts are all pretty null/scummy. Pretty similar to now. Those reads that Ender was talking about? here they are.
SO MY POWER JUST WENT OUT AND APPARENTLY CHROME DIDN'T SAVE A LICK OF MY POST, Lemme try summerising real quickly:
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A bunch of people I don't have any real reads on because they haven't talked enough or their posts contain not enough to go off.
Lucanosa
Runeraider
Kit
Zoolka (Slight townread, but not enough to go off of.)
M3ow (Slight scumread, but not enough to go off of.)
The "**** if I know" catagory.
Aka Sataric. I've wibble-wobbled between town and scum very noticeably all day on day one, and I'll be honest, I'm having trouble reading them. At all.
The "Why is Sataric attacking them? That's a pretty poor reason to suspect them" Group
Ayaya
People who need to do some updated reading and give reads but they're decently town in my eyes atm:
Tom
Trundle
The "I thought they might have been scum but they're probably town" section:
Trojan
Minties
The "I still think they're town despite the people against them" list: (Read her claim post and a few of the others. The claim post especially)
Sarasakat
The "Style has changed from normal and they could be scum" list:
Call Me Daniel
Panda
The "Day two lynch/pressure targets":
Doughssant
Jacob
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Wait did Sarasa really just try to say Ayaya had voted for Ness?
No that was Me/Minties/Panda/Sarasa
...
Okay gimme a moment.
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Would there have been reason for there to be scum on the Ness wagon.
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I mean if there would be Panda is the obvious pick but for some reason I'm suddenly feeling off about that. Idk. Maybe my brain is just overtime rn.
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This a pretty weak reads to make when they haven't even posted their reads yet tho.
I know 100% for a fact that Ender is capable of pouring through a thread and creating an argument. Here's who he mentions as scum: Me, Daniel, Panda, Dough, Jacob. He doesn't say really why for ANY of these, besides Daniel and Panda where he says that their style has changed from normal. I disagree about Panda, she seems pretty much the same if not better, forming clearer arguments than previous games and also not tunneling on one single person. Daniel is a bit quiet more than usual, but unless you elaborate HOW his style has changed you are basically just saying nothing.
Something else I've noticed is that when he's scum he asks a lot of questions, because then it looks like he's posting and contributing but he still isn't saying much.
Anyone want to reread Blu Rose and tell me what they think? I got curious and I'm not a fan of it, but I'm also about 5 seconds away from falling asleep so I don't rightly trust my judgement.
Eeeh. I don't have a solid read on Dough even after rereading. Their panic seems really weird for a scum to do in thread, but their rolefishing is hella bad.
All game, Ender has been kind-of-sort-of implying people are scum but more than anything he's townreading people way too early tbh and isn't taking a clear stance on pretty much anything. He pushed Ness because of his wishy-washiness with his vote, and then said this about Panda:
Okay, so, I think Panda might actually be scum? They're playing similar to a few games in memory, all of which they were town, but I've yet to see them scum yet so idk how that plays up.
The reason I think they might be scum? Actually comes from the fact that they started PMing me in a manner very similar to the first PM game we played together. It feels a lot like "Oh hey look, remember how I was town in this?"
To be honest I think I'd prefer a Ness lynch because of that shady af post just now, but if it's between Panda and Sarasa I would prefer Panda. (I'll reread over Dough now and see what I think of them and where they rank in "Who I want to lynch rn")
Uh, no. My point was that while you are acting similar to past games when you were town, I've never seen you as scum so Idk how it matches up. Note that you're not even my biggest lynch candidate right now. My post was only a "Okay Panda might be scum." I was saying it's a possibility, not probably.
Yes, Panda is possibly scum because it's not impossible that Panda is scum. What kind of argument is that? What is the point of even typing this all out just to turn around and say yeah it's just something that can happen idk if it is tho? And then you say that Panda isn't someone you even want lynched right now. Then who is? Why aren't you talking about them? Ender, you've played 10+ games, I know you're a strong player. So I genuinely don't understand any of this behavior, and you're now my #1 scumread.