Mafia PokéMafia : a small game of mafia - Town Wins

Well, I’m not 100% sure, but.

1: ZeldaJune (mostly cause I haven’t seen any posts in a few pages)
2: jtheburger
3: dragonboy
4: im_the_rhino
5: Bianca
6: Dad
7: Dolby

I might change later, this is partly based on amount of posts, and what is being talked about In said posts.

Dad and Dolby are at the elast suspicion cause their posts seem to be really researched. (Again I’m a newbie so I don’t know what I’m talking about for half of this XD)
 
I have a tl;dr at my most important wall Bianca! Post 135.
 
Numbers are paragraphs of this post. Responding to each paragraph.

1) I made the Hyrule townread first and after I pointed out why she was town telling that is something you have repeatedly piggybacked. It's agreeable so it doesn't count as much of a unique read from you.

Also, I can?t tell if that?s a typo, you think I?m a girl, or if your talking about someone/thing else lol. Cause I?m a male
 
Well, I’m not 100% sure, but.

1: ZeldaJune (mostly cause I haven’t seen any posts in a few pages)
2: jtheburger
3: dragonboy
4: im_the_rhino
5: Bianca
6: Dad
7: Dolby

I might change later, this is partly based on amount of posts, and what is being talked about In said posts.

Dad and Dolby are at the elast suspicion cause their posts seem to be really researched. (Again I’m a newbie so I don’t know what I’m talking about for half of this XD)

Where would you put Antonio? Why Dolby over me? Have you read what I pointed out about his Day 1 content? Specifically the tl;dr I just referred Bianca to?

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My bad Hyrule! Know your pronoun now so I'll use the correct one
 
Where would you put Antonio? Why Dolby over me? Have you read what I pointed out about his Day 1 content? Specifically the tl;dr I just referred Bianca to?

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My bad Hyrule! Know your pronoun now so I'll use the correct one

I excluded Antonio cause he is looking for a replacement, I was gonna tie you and Dolby but I changed my mind. Maybe I’ll update it later. And I don’t remember if I read what you said about Dolby’s D1 Contents. There’s a lot of tldrs on here for me so that might explain why lol
 
Yeah sorry about walls in your first game but main information post does suggest people be prepared to have 30 minutes a day to read and post when committing to a game! Because sometimes long exchanges are necessary and cases even moreso and with it usually takes at least someone making a big case in order to take down an experienced player.

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Also Antonio is technically alive and part of the game until host either announces the replacement or the modkill. And his slot will always be read to include his activity/alignment/behavior by me at least. That's why I ask.

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That better be another wall Dolby.
 
Well then, I’ll put antonio at #5 and move everyone up 1

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Everyone aboves 5 up 1*
 
Seems consistent based on your approach. I do have to suggest placing more value on the content itself. Trusting people just because they post a lot is what will hand over the game to Dolby if he is mafia and I'm killed if everyone else treats the game the same way.

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Dolby if you're not going to go to bed at least interact or go invisible like everyone else instead of lurking.
 
Okay, I know I don't wanna lynch Hyrule, Dad, Dolby and Antonio right now..the others need to interact more or they are lynchable on my part (inactives).

yes i saw the TLDr just now; So you are scumreading Dolby? so you think he is pocketing you? Do you think he is pocketing me as well?
 
I don’t think dad, Bianca, rhino, and Antonio are lyncable imho right now. I would say Dolby but (idk why) after Dads statement above is making me kinda iffy
 
Okay, I know I don't wanna lynch Hyrule, Dad, Dolby and Antonio right now..the others need to interact more or they are lynchable on my part (inactives).

yes i saw the TLDr just now; So you are scumreading Dolby? so you think he is pocketing you? Do you think he is pocketing me as well?

Yes, to answer that simply. I think he's concerned with like... getting really interesting see in fighting back because so far I haven't done much that objectively looks bad and after the exchanges we've had I feel like townDolby would be picking apart stuff that I have done as well not only to solve me but to counter me and he has only really criticized my PR choice and using the word 'clear' too boldly.

After I dug up that your frustrations in Oregon about not being able to figure out what Tracker and Watcher is (nobody explained it for you and you gave up) his progression on you went from suspicion to light townread and he didn't say anymore about how you should know what those roles are by now.
 
Actually, I'm pretty sure that I TRed Hyrule before you in #84. You do get some credit for being the first to mention the towntell, but I think that it's a towntell because they weren't even aware of the fact tat godfather was a mafia role and not a town one. Not for drawing attention to the voting deadline, which was inconsequential



Dad, my mentality at this point is that with the rest of the players being how they are right now, I feel that town's already lost if your scum not because you can strongarm them, but they simply don't care enough to stand in your way or even vote. Zelda herself is a prime example of this, they have the only votes on them and they haven't bothered to come in the thread yet despite being clearly online. I want at least one of them to post SOMETHING, and if there isn't an alternate wagon that just makes the job easier, honestly I don't even expect most of them to read to this point in my post. Let's be real though a) Tbh there is really nothing to differentiate Zelda from the rest now that I think about it because she only posted because you called her out C) If I wanted to look towny as scum I'm not going to passively follow you on the lynch because it was quite clearly a pressure vote. I'm just following it for the same reasons that you've kept the pressure on Zelda throughout the game despite being no different from the others as paradoxical as it sounds D) Has anything that rhino or dragon said actually had an impact on the game? Would the game be any different if either of them hadn't posted at all. To be honest, no, there's nothing


This is outdated now that Antonio replaced out because this section is far more focused on why I came to sus Antonio over Bianca. Antonio's had at least been able to post reads in the past few games, here it felt like his questions towards you were a vessel for the sole purpose of not appearing like a zero poster, considering that the questions had no value to them and had the answers there already. In the past as town he didn't stoop that low as to ask illegitimate questions to look good


I can't read a ****ing zero poster, all four fit that catagory.

Rhino isn't clearly excited because he's scum, that's what I meant by that. I typically divide newbs into 3 mindsets, and A's what I can be called "excited scum" I guess. Rhino clearly doesnt fall into that catagory if he's scum


I'm not townreading her for it, I'm disputing it as a reason for her to be considered any different from the other three. I'm about to fall asleep at my keyboard at this point, but at this point it's uncaring townie vs frozen fear scum for her(Zelda).

Also, I use hilariously to describe the situation, not the tinfoil. In no way do I insinuate that the tinfoil itself is hilarious, but how my view plays into the tinfoil (also, do you seriously think I'd make it this obvious, say that Zelda's not my top suspect then vote her 3 hours later as a "tempvote", I think even they'd understand that means nothing, simply bc they're wary of anything that moves to much)

Soloing is just a bad idea in general and I don't understand why you did it with Korean to Antonio so early in Day Two, he wasn't a lost cause yet. Especially since you'd get credit for the lynch, watcher would be on you, and I'd have to deal with you being here tomorrow


****ing glad you asked. Guy apparently joins for the apparent sole purpose of playing mafia on here on the guidance from his friend, hasn't even made a post in the thread yet, just staying in the basement games and seems to forget that he's even in this one. I'm not even sure why he'd put ##mafia in the voting thread as either alignment tbh, and I'm not gonna get into it because I don't remember what I was thinking then. What I really don't like is the method in which he follows Rhino in the vote thread. I view THAT as a heavy cover attempt for not following my cop/watcher. If he's scum I can pretty much write the exact words of what's going through his mind right now "If they sus it, they'll go after him first, and they won't sus me anyway because a town did it" (still agree with the rhino/Jt anti-align)


Also liking Bianca more as of recently, the tone just feels so pure. This isn't a particularly insightful post but it took a lot out of me after the day I've had

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First part, I know I change my meta like my clothes each day, but I'm the believer in the situation where when I'm clearly one of the two strongest players (which I consider at my level) and I'm scum the best play for me is to attack them head on (won me Smash against Endless, powermaf for life man), especially when I think that they're gonna sus me before the day is out (you def fall into that camp, even when I'm town)

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Also, to the soloing point, I know that I brag about soloing 12v1 so much in kingmaker even though it was 4 years ago, but you literally have to walk the narrowest ****ing line

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Also Dad if you make another wall post tonight I'm not responding to it tonight

I am going to try and be succinct as I can responding because walls are an issue for these players but same format, numbers are paragraphs.

1) Yeah I'm talking about designating that voting moment as a townslip for Hyrule because it also came off genuine in tone but fair enough with 84, didn't say you townread him but you said you liked a moment from him.

2) Mostly responding to the ABC of this paragraph. Yes there is something that differentiated Zelda from this others and I have explained it as a combo of lurking, sheeping, tone, and most distinctly that there is no activity elsewhere like the others. I've already gone over how I feel about you 'putting their feet to the fire with your vote'. Dragonboy's hasn't done much to affect game state outside of irl excuse successfully keeping him out of top suspect spots so far. Rhino just showing probably not m/m with JT before this post.

3) Gone over Antonio so skip for brevity. Strongly worded suspicion on him in this paragraph though.

4) Nobody has zero posted if you count voting thread for JT.

5) Thanks for the clarification here and I agree but the partial point assignment still reads tonally weird.

6) You're ruling out frozen due to fear? Alright, I haven't yet. You're already calling her a townie here though.

7) Nah I still feel like the use of the word hilariously puts a lampshade on the partnership theory by casting a sort of 'wow what a weird set of read dynamics this is turning out to be' vibe.

8) Bruh Antonio was a hella lost cause there and I not have made it to f3 if I had defended him there and I wasn't capable of determining the setup in that anyways and you aren't me. You can solo and would here. Get my voice out of the picture, hope Bianca wouldn't step up to rail against you, and you'd easily solo, especially after a bus which new players would take face value...then again they might not even play!

9) The first half of this paragraph about JT is pure nai why even bring it up? It's really pushy to say his pr vote was cover he's just lol voting probably. I hate the theoretical quote at the end there, dramatically pushing that the intent was cover which is a lot of forethought for someone who didn't feel like they'd end up dedicating much to the game anyways.

10) Just out of curiosity point out the Bianca posts are you harshly read as pure here? Especially since you seem to be sliding back on how you feel about Bianca lately.

11) Endless wasn't that hard to fight tbh. Only one fight with him was hard because I had been cop checked as third party in that specific case. I'm not going to read you by your scum meta anyways. I'd rather use your town game as a baseline, that's harder meta judgement to escape.

12) Yeah but you're capable and you know it. Yes your vote is still on Zelda but tonally you don't feel right about it and you've literally called her an uncaring townie while your vote was on her so pardon me for distrusting your commitment to your #2 scumread.

13) This wall post ended up long anyways. I am the arbiter of my own suffering. You'd think I'd learn by now.

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Also schedule-wise this is the last wall post I have the time to make anyways. I can't wait to come back right before voting ends to find out you were the only one who read it.
 
Now that I'm on my desktop the length is not as bad as I thought it would be but I can't believe I made those posts on mobile.

I'm around for the next thirty or so minutes hmu.
 
Gotta go to bed. I won't get back to the thread until like 45 minutes until EoD. D:

You new folks can read and post and vote I believe in you!
 
After I dug up that your frustrations in Oregon about not being able to figure out what Tracker and Watcher is (nobody explained it for you and you gave up) his progression on you went from suspicion to light townread and he didn't say anymore about how you should know what those roles are by now.

ftr that townread is purely because her tone is pure in the posts following getting back on track for the game. I still think that her posting is kinda weird, especially in the beginning, was weird, but her tone is pure and she isn't struggling to put out content like in how she was in Caxival(which I was with her), where her scumreads were Vanessa, which she was effectively locked against her, and whoever looked worst at the moment.

4) Nobody has zero posted if you count voting thread for JT.
They might as well have zero posted though

6) You're ruling out frozen due to fear? Alright, I haven't yet. You're already calling her a townie here though.
I never did

10) Just out of curiosity point out the Bianca posts are you harshly read as pure here? Especially since you seem to be sliding back on how you feel about Bianca lately.
Will prob end up doing this later anyway, but her focus on the tameness of the me/you interactions is definetely something that comes naturally from town her. Even if we had much more activity it would be a point she'd be looking at throughout the game. After the #90, #131 felt good from her since she's explaining her read on me/you and actually providing content and not just a thread presence. I know the tone point itself from he is weird, but as scum it felt that she was letting happiness delibrately leak into her posts as a means of appearing more positive when I scummed with her last. Now her emotion is more neutral, but the tone of the posts still looks good and it's hard to say why without looking back and grabbing posts but I'm a college boy with limited time left in day now
 
Actually, I'd find the frozen fear read on me pretty accurate, I just don't have much to say and am scared I'll be lynched.

I don't think Dolby would be mafia, he's pretty upfront with his opinions and is one of the most talkative players, along with Dad and mafia players tend to want to post every so often but they don't want a spotlight. I also doubt Dad's mafia but I'm less sure
 
Actually, I'd find the frozen fear read on me pretty accurate, I just don't have much to say and am scared I'll be lynched.

I don't think Dolby would be mafia, he's pretty upfront with his opinions and is one of the most talkative players, along with Dad and mafia players tend to want to post every so often but they don't want a spotlight. I also doubt Dad's mafia but I'm less sure

So, if you had to vote right now, who would it be for considering it seems that you want to go for the less active players? Why have you been silent for the past I don't know how many hours despite Dad's and myself's votes on you?
 
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