Mafia Squeaky Clean Mafia - Day 3 - Ends Monday May 25 at 7pm EST

[Damniel]

not going to get personal, but antonio using that much emotion isn’t out of character. i think it’s heightened due to personal circumstances at home (which i’m sorry to hear about), but there has been multiple ocassions where antonio has gotten into heated arguments with different people which is why geo says

Being caught up is overrated townread the Antonio slot on 100 he is being classic emotional town Antonio and I don't want to go into detail for the sake of it not getting overly personal

normally the emotion comes out when they’re town and don’t have a scum team to consider, but i don’t really think it’s alignment telling tbh. i can see this having happened in either alignment given their current situation. not to be mean but behavior like this isn’t uncommon quite frankly. so epona i don’t think the AtE is alignment indicative

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i think reads posts should also include what they think of kats alignment so @epona do you still think kat is scum?

 

[toadsworthy]

I am looking for a replacement @Damniel but yes you can vote for that slot

 

[DinoTown]

I am looking for a replacement @Damniel but yes you can vote for that slot

Thank you for clarifying!

 

[Damniel]

yea until someone comes back to fill in that slot i still don’t think it’s fair to vote for it for now

 

[epona]

not going to get personal, but antonio using that much emotion isn’t out of character. i think it’s heightened due to personal circumstances at home (which i’m sorry to hear about), but there has been multiple ocassions where antonio has gotten into heated arguments with different people which is why geo says



normally the emotion comes out when they’re town and don’t have a scum team to consider, but i don’t really think it’s alignment telling tbh. i can see this having happened in either alignment given their current situation. not to be mean but behavior like this isn’t uncommon quite frankly. so epona i don’t think the AtE is alignment indicative

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i think reads posts should also include what they think of kats alignment so @epona do you still think kat is scum?

yeah i don't think the AtE is AI, i just said i can't get past it bc in general i find AtE really distracting and uncomfortable

i honestly don't know what i think about kat. her being tp made sense but i think it's highly unlikely in a game this size that there would be two tps. if the infecting feature belongs to a third party, which seems like it makes more sense, i think i'd be more willing to say that kat was town because of the lack of a counterwagon, but it still doesn't explain how she was acting/playing so i honestly don't know

but basically i think these are the most likely two scenarios:

infecting tp = town!kat
infecting party is part of the mafia team = tp!kat

 

[toadsworthy]

Just vote for antonio until I figure out who it is... 3 people stepped up and were interested I just need one to commit lol

 

[Ace Marvel]

Good morning, afternoon or night to everyone! I'm back and ready for some action!

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i'm townreading teddy, i would have to suspend my disbelief a LOT to see him as anything other than a vanilla, albeit eccentric, townie. the sudden flip from scumreading to townlocking me is a bit weird but i also don't really see how that rapid 180 would help him as mafia either, even if you buy into the suggestion that we're teamed

Like I said before, I work the 3vs9 formula for fairness, and with Seroja out, you didn't had a place in the mafia for me anymore, so that's why you are townie to me now.

 

[Damniel]

so for anti town roles it seems that there’s an infector like role, a janitor (probably 1 shot or passive) like role, and some other 3rd role (could be a lot of things). i don’t really see why a janitor would be TP if they have their own wincon (unless they have to win with maf), so i’m inclined to believe for now that this role is maf. an infector could be maf, but tbh i find it more possible they’re TP. since toads says the KP is based on roles not the team/two round up formula, i’m assuming either the janitor or third role (the 2nd maf member) has the killing power. just speculation but i’m trying to say that i don’t think it’s likely that it’s just 3 scum so i think there’s 1 hostile TP and if so that stand alone TP can still scumhunt and not have to lie/worry about looking teamed

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i guess a 2 maf team could be the infectors, and the TP is a serial killer, but Serojas death makes more sense as a team kill instead of a SK kill

 

[Ace Marvel]

I think the infector is town, and they might not even know they have that power.

how long you will last if you get infected, its probably at the whim of whoever is causing this. Not to mention some of you might actually infect each other.

This means only one of you is probably infected now, but that can ramp up as some of you might move around and infect each other tomorrow night. That means maybe more of you can die at once in nights to come.

 

[DinoTown]

I'm trying to think of the logistics that the mafia team is based around infection and there is a serial killer, but I don't see how well that would work. If the mafia didn't have a nightly kill role, it would kinda upend the game a little bit

I think the infector is town, and they might not even know they have that power.

Looking at the red quote, the infector knows they have the power. Whim means want, so it's who the infector wants to infect.

 

[Damniel]

I think the infector is town, and they might not even know they have that power.

actually that’s an interesting idea. i guess that could mean there’s a scum team of 3 set at 1 KP with people randomly dying from infection?

 

[DinoTown]

The second quote, I would hazard a guess means that if someone got infected and visited someone, they would pass the infection onto whoever they visited (of course, they probably wouldn't know they were infected in the first place nor that they were passing it on). It says "move around" so

 

[Ace Marvel]

I think this, because the odds of both mafia teams targeting the same person, is a little too high. So if they are not town, they are mafia, the infector role can't be a 3rd party with a personal agenda.

 

[DinoTown]

I think this, because the odds of both mafia teams targeting the same person, is a little too high. So if they are not town, they are mafia, the infector role can't be a 3rd party with a personal agenda.

Can I ask what you mean by targeting a third person?

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a third person what. my brain
targeting the SAME* person

 

[Damniel]

I think this, because the odds of both mafia teams targeting the same person, is a little too high. So if they are not town, they are mafia, the infector role can't be a 3rd party with a personal agenda.

a TP could’ve tried to infect seroja but she was immune to it. but i don’t think they infected seroja. i think they infected someone and that person will die eventually

 

[Ace Marvel]

actually that’s an interesting idea. i guess that could mean there’s a scum team of 3 set at 1 KP with people randomly dying from infection?

Lets say you die 2 days after being infected.
I have the power to infect someone, person A.
Person A is doom in 2 days,
But then mafia kill them the next night.
I wasted that power, and had not effect.

Unless being infected is protown, and if any townie is infected, when the mafia visit they get infected.

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Can I ask what you mean by targeting a third person?

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a third person what. my brain
targeting the SAME* person

3rd party made of a single player. my bad.

 

[DinoTown]

Lets say you die 2 days after being infected.
I have the power to infect someone, person A.
Person A is doom in 2 days,
But then mafia kill them the next night.
I wasted that power, and had not effect.

Unless being infected is protown, and if any townie is infected, when the mafia visit they get infected.

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3rd party made of a single player. my bad.

If I remember correctly, that's actually exactly how arsonist works in ToS, so it working that way wouldn't surprise me.

 

[Damniel]

Lets say you die 2 days after being infected.
I have the power to infect someone, person A.
Person A is doom in 2 days,
But then mafia kill them the next night.
I wasted that power, and had not effect.

Unless being infected is protown, and if any townie is infected, when the mafia visit they get infected.

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3rd party made of a single player. my bad.

well if a TP infectors wincon is to have all remaining players infected, i would assume the TP would target players least likely to be killed by maf to prevent overlap. also if a person that was infected was killed, that means the killer would get infected, so still a plus for the TP

 

[Ace Marvel]

Also something that I just realized was that @toadsworthy was clear when the time of death was night, maybe the infected die at the end of the day cycle?

 

[Damniel]

Also something that I just realized was that @toadsworthy was clear when the time of death was night, maybe the infected die at the end of the day cycle?

i think we’d have to wait and see if that happens