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Mafia Squeaky Clean Mafia - Day 3 - Ends Monday May 25 at 7pm EST

Ant it makes sense having the role of the germaphobe, if we realized this sooner, (which was pretty difficult) Seroja would have protected the infected townie, but they would still infect the mafia member.
 
Ant it makes sense having the role of the germaphobe, if we realized this sooner, (which was pretty difficult) Seroja would have protected the infected townie, but they would still infect the mafia member.
I checked, it sounds like Seroja's role only worked to stop someone from being infected in the first place, if they were already infected, I don't think protection would have done anything.
 
Ant it makes sense having the role of the germaphobe, if we realized this sooner, (which was pretty difficult) Seroja would have protected the infected townie, but they would still infect the mafia member.
i actually see your point but wouldn’t that mean scum can both kill and infect? would that be too many kills unless there are a a few immune players?
 
i actually see your point but wouldn’t that mean scum can both kill and infect? would that be too many kills unless there are a a few immune players?
Well we already know Seroja was immune, wouldn't surprise me if there was more
 
something about a 3 person maf team having the ability to both kill and infect just doesn’t seem very plauslable to me. so unless there was a 1 shot strong arm that killed seroja, i’m still finding it more likely that the infector is TP
 
i actually see your point but wouldn’t that mean scum can both kill and infect? would that be too many kills unless there are a a few immune players?
That is why I think the virus is a silent killer, and we are running against the clock.
 
That is why I think the virus is a silent killer, and we are running against the clock.
I still don't think the original infector is unaware of what they are doing. Toads very clearly says that it is at the WHIM of the infection, a.k.a who the infector wants. Whether mafia or tp, they know what they are doing, but people won't know the are infected or have been passing it on until it's too late.
 
i think the infector might be TP for purely logistical reasons

(this is all hypothetical and like i said i don't have the keenest awareness of smaller setups so correct me if my hypothesis is flawed)

12 person game, so let's say it's weighted as 9 townies to 3 anti-town (either 3 mafia or 2 mafia 1 hostile tp)
assume seroja's germaphobe role replaced the traditional doctor role
and then assume there's a cop and maybe a town roleblocker or (x-shot probably) vig

if the infecting role is part of the scumteam, and the 'doctor' type role is immune from infection, the only way for the infection to spread would be if the scumteam correctly guessed and targeted the cop (or equally if there's another town power role, correctly guessed and targeted them), OR correctly predicted a townie that would be visited by a power role

that just seems like odds would be stacked against the actual spread of the infection because so many factors would have to be aligned in order for it to spread successfully

it just makes more sense for it to be a TP with its own agenda, because then there'd be a much wider pool of infection targets who could spread the infection effectively (anybody the TP predicted to have a power role/night action, regardless of alignment)
otherwise it just doesn't seem that functional to me
 
i think the infector might be TP for purely logistical reasons

(this is all hypothetical and like i said i don't have the keenest awareness of smaller setups so correct me if my hypothesis is flawed)

12 person game, so let's say it's weighted as 9 townies to 3 anti-town (either 3 mafia or 2 mafia 1 hostile tp)
assume seroja's germaphobe role replaced the traditional doctor role
and then assume there's a cop and maybe a town roleblocker or (x-shot probably) vig

if the infecting role is part of the scumteam, and the 'doctor' type role is immune from infection, the only way for the infection to spread would be if the scumteam correctly guessed and targeted the cop (or equally if there's another town power role, correctly guessed and targeted them), OR correctly predicted a townie that would be visited by a power role

that just seems like odds would be stacked against the actual spread of the infection because so many factors would have to be aligned in order for it to spread successfully

it just makes more sense for it to be a TP with its own agenda, because then there'd be a much wider pool of infection targets who could spread the infection effectively (anybody the TP predicted to have a power role/night action, regardless of alignment)
otherwise it just doesn't seem that functional to me
Maybe a win condition is to infect everyone, so the infection is not meant to kill us then.
 
dino since you're here let me pick at your brain. who are two people that you should be lynched today and why
 
dino since you're here let me pick at your brain. who are two people that you should be lynched today and why
"dino since you're here" in the period I wasn't actually here lmao. I have a bad habit of leaving my computer on with tabs open so even if it says I'm online I might not be, jysk for the future. Anyway my two choices for lynch would be:
Bianca - Bianca's comments have been lacklustre at best and cryptic at worst, including straight up saying they are trying to avoid talking because she thinks she's not helping town.
I know...its just that everytime I start something or say my theory...a wagon is on me ...so me saying my thoughts are probably not helping town...i'll try to be more clear but I just say whats on my mind at that time...so idk
A lot of people have mentioned Bianca has seemed frustrated but frankly I don't see that. That might just be my own personal bias of thinking her posting style with ellipsises everywhere don't convey much but.
I'm serious teddy!! arrgh!
this is actually the most emotion I think I've gotten from what she's said the whole game. I think Bianca wanted to fly under the radar for a bit to avoid having to contribute too much as so to not give away much, realised it didn't work too well, and is trying to pull an AtE playstyle to cover up the fact that she is not contributing a lot, when she (as, as far as I know, an experienced player) could be doing more, and not doing a very good job at actually appealing to (at least my) emotions. On top of that, the little she has given away isn't helpful and scummy in places.
oh that quote is from teddy..not mine..I just cut and paste his quote....you are not on my target at all...yet...

I know dinotown is riding under the radar....
This post in particular feels like a poor attempt to shift the conversation away from her so she can go back into hiding. She provides absolutely no reason why the conversation should go to someone else. It's just a name drop and that's literally it. If she'd said 'Oh, let's talk about how x did y" it would make more sense, but instead it just feels "think about someone other than me."

Bianca is currently my first choice of vote.

and also

My second choice is Volt/Damniel - but I'd prefer Bianca today. Volt played in a certainly strange manner than several had pegged as scummy, and I was very happy to vote for this slot today. But then Volt swapped out for Damniel and I was a little more concerned about that, since Damniel first's few posts seemed rather towny to me.

I will admit that part of the reason I'm concerned here relates to me - namely, the several times you have asked me questions, ignored my answer, then used that to buff up your scumread on me. It feels like you're searching for reasons that aren't really there to pad out your essay on reasons I look bad - because you know I'm currently an easy target to be mislynched so you gotta lay it on thick to really get your point across.

I also get that Damniel is not Volt and was not instead Volt's head when they said and did the things that they said and did but it needs to be remembered that they are still the same slot, the role is still the same, and everything should be taken into consideration here.

I'd prefer Bianca to be voted today because whichever way Bianca flips is more likely to give me vibes about potential teams, etc, and Bianca's flip is more likely to make me sway on my read on Damniel, but I don't think Damniel flipping either way would really change my mind about Bianca.
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Side note, I just realised you didn't add the word 'think' so you actually just said 'you should be lynched today' lol
 
This post in particular feels like a poor attempt to shift the conversation away from her so she can go back into hiding. She provides absolutely no reason why the conversation should go to someone else. It's just a name drop and that's literally it. If she'd said 'Oh, let's talk about how x did y" it would make more sense, but instead it just feels "think about someone other than me."

this is a good point

Bianca flips is more likely to give me vibes about potential teams, etc,

if bianca is scum, who is she teamed with? could I be teamed with her? because you say my flip wouldn't change your view on bianca

ignored my answer, then used that to buff up your scumread on me.

not sure what answers you think ive ignored. if i don't directly answer it it usually means i don't have a problem with it. do you think there are cases where you've answered a question but i bring up the same point without addressing your answer as unreasonable?

because you know I'm currently an easy target to be mislynched so you gotta lay it on thick to really get your point across.

what makes you think you're an easy lynch?
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Side note, I just realised you didn't add the word 'think' so you actually just said 'you should be lynched today' lol
no i meant think i didn't proofread it
 
@DinoTown, so let us address the fact that since i brought your name up as my most sus that suddenly you have a whole blanket of sus against me. so are we OMGSUS-ing now?
 
if bianca is scum, who is she teamed with? could I be teamed with her? because you say my flip wouldn't change your view on bianca
Sorry, I'll clarify that bit: I think no matter what you ended up flipping, I would still believe that Bianca could be scum. If Bianca flipped town, I'd be less confident about my sus on you, because I do think you are teamed, yes, mostly from Volt's early interactions with Bianca. I'm currently not sure who a third member could be (although if there were only 3 original members, I still think we might have been right with Kat and that's the third)

not sure what answers you think ive ignored. if i don't directly answer it it usually means i don't have a problem with it. do you think there are cases where you've answered a question but i bring up the same point without addressing your answer as unreasonable?
I think it's a little bit annoying where you ask me why I didn't vote for Teddy or Volt. I answer. You don't say anything about it, then later bring up me not voting Teddy/Volt as a reason for me looking scummy. If you didn't address me answer, you didn't have a problem with it, right? So why does that still make it a reason for me to be scummy?
what makes you think you're an easy lynch?
I'm scumleaned by several people and a couple have outright said I'm in their lynchpool for today. In early game when people don't have strong reads, I'd consider anyone who pops up in more than one lynch pool to be someone who could rather easily be pushed for, especially when mixed in with EoD stress.
no i meant think i didn't proofread it
I know, u good lol
@DinoTown, so let us address the fact that since i brought your name up as my most sus that suddenly you have a whole blanket of sus against me. so are we OMGSUS-ing now?
Don't mix up 'I haven't explicitly talked about my sus on Bianca' as 'I don't have sus on Bianca'. Just because I hadn't talked about you in depth before doesn't mean I'm pulling all this from my butt.
 
Don't mix up 'I haven't explicitly talked about my sus on Bianca' as 'I don't have sus on Bianca'. Just because I hadn't talked about you in depth before doesn't mean I'm pulling all this from my butt.

That's the very definition of OMGSUS. You haven't talked about me but suddenly I was the talk. huh?
 
Sorry, I'll clarify that bit: I think no matter what you ended up flipping, I would still believe that Bianca could be scum. If Bianca flipped town, I'd be less confident about my sus on you, because I do think you are teamed, yes, mostly from Volt's early interactions with Bianca. I'm currently not sure who a third member could be (although if there were only 3 original members, I still think we might have been right with Kat and that's the third)

i agree that i thought volt and bianca were teamed from bianca's readlist

wdym only 3 original members
 
i agree that i thought volt and bianca were teamed from bianca's readlist

wdym only 3 original members
3 members of the mafia. We don't know how many members there actually are. I need to do some more reading, preferably after a Bianca flip so I don't spend ages digging through everything if there is no mafia team with Bianca on it to find, but I think it's possible that if the game started with 3 mafia members, it could have been Volt/Bianca/Kat.
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That's the very definition of OMGSUS. You haven't talked about me but suddenly I was the talk. huh?
I thought OMGUS was were you sus'd someone because they were a bad player rather than you having actual reasons to scumread someone.
 
3 members of the mafia. We don't know how many members there actually are. I need to do some more reading, preferably after a Bianca flip so I don't spend ages digging through everything if there is no mafia team with Bianca on it to find, but I think it's possible that if the game started with 3 mafia members, it could have been Volt/Bianca/Kat.
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I thought OMGUS was were you sus'd someone because they were a bad player rather than you having actual reasons to scumread someone.

'original' and 'game started with' implies some sort of cult mechanism
 
I thought OMGUS was were you sus'd someone because they were a bad player rather than you having actual reasons to scumread someone.

It's more like I sus you, so I sus you back
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you sus me back sorry
 
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