Mafia TBT Mafia: Game of Thrones - A Crown for a King - GAME OVER

[Chris]

Fair enough - Sorry that you are having a hard time. I hope that you can still understand that, from my point of view, the lack of contribution compared to how you used to play (note, I have not played for over a year..) is giving me red flags. You used to contribute a lot when you were town and I am not getting that "I want to help town win" vibe from you, you know?

I understand that. I'm not actually surprised to hear that I'm coming across that way. My head isn't in the game at all. It's so easy to just sit back and not do much when you're really not feeling it - especially in kingmaker, where that daily pressure of "VOTE OR YOU'RE MODKILLED" isn't there. It's so easy to say, "I'll read up tomorrow instead." I've been saying the same thing for days about cleaning the hamster cage and cooking a certain dish.

 

[Trojan]

I understand that. I'm not actually surprised to hear that I'm coming across that way. My head isn't in the game at all. It's so easy to just sit back and not do much when you're really not feeling it - especially in kingmaker, where that daily pressure of "VOTE OR YOU'RE MODKILLED" isn't there. It's so easy to say, "I'll read up tomorrow instead." I've been saying the same thing for days about cleaning the hamster cage and cooking a certain dish.

mass roleclaim

 

[Meg-Mog]

Lets just mass role claim

That's not going to work.

 

[Chris]

mass roleclaim

You're kidding right? It'll be a blue bloodbath tonight if we do that.

 

[Trojan]

You're kidding right? It'll be a blue bloodbath tonight if we do that.

But we can kill all the moofia

 

[KarlaKGB]

well, it doesnt look like scum get safe claims provided to them

 

[Trojan]

well, it doesnt look like scum get safe claims provided to them

I just want to mass roleclaim so we can kill all the contradictions.

 

[glow]

I understand that. I'm not actually surprised to hear that I'm coming across that way. My head isn't in the game at all. It's so easy to just sit back and not do much when you're really not feeling it - especially in kingmaker, where that daily pressure of "VOTE OR YOU'RE MODKILLED" isn't there. It's so easy to say, "I'll read up tomorrow instead." I've been saying the same thing for days about cleaning the hamster cage and cooking a certain dish.

I've never played with Tina but she doesn't seem like the type to blatantly lie about something like this at all

 

[oath2order]

well, it doesnt look like scum get safe claims provided to them

What makes you say that

 

[EpicGamer12]

What makes you say that

He thinks Tina is scum

 

[Meg-Mog]

I've never played with Tina but she doesn't seem like the type to blatantly lie about something like this at all

I know it's not fair cause I live her but she wouldn't lie like this.

 

[N e s s]

... Again, to prove Endless and myself more towards town. I already stated why I chose Endless, and I knew that it wasn't just me who thought Daniel was scum so he will be an easier lynch target, but Endless would not be so easy. Please read my post and use what brain you may have so I don't have to answer the same question 3 times.

Rude :/

 

[Trojan]

Yeah that was a reaction test! Tina failed

 

[Chris]

Yeah that was a reaction test! Tina failed

You what? I don't see the sense in giving the mafia a distinction between blue and green - especially as it looks like Sataric's Stark (sp?) theory is true.

 

[N e s s]

But we can kill all the moofia

If we do a mass role claim then the game is going to be handed to the mafia, and that we have 2 blue deaths on our hands right now.

Also, Dolby told me something interesting the other day. He compares meta when he's doing his blue sniping and then he chooses to kill them. He told me this when I asked how he did it:

Well, it's not like I have a formula where
blue<x<townie on y
Because all players have different styles of playing and as such have different posting patterns. I literally spend hours in some games looking through meta and analyzing patterns in a person's playstyle. In pm games, you should look at who people clear in the early stages and try to infiltrate pm groups, that makes things A LOT easier as the roles are just handed to you

So that be the case then last time Dolby happened to be online was Yesterday 07:04 PM, during the night.

I'm taking that from his current profile, but there is a chance that Dolby could be mafia in this sense.

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Thats not to mention that both Ashtot and Kit were doing things that were contradicted to their normal play styles.

 

[Ayaya]

For anyone wondering, as far as I know, my shot was not refunded unless Minties forgot to include it.



I claimed to account for the shot on Endless, which is obviously helpful to the town because 1) Endless is now more trusted as town and 2) I should also be more trusted as town. Also, I'm not sure what you mean by saying you're confirmed already?

1) is Understandable
2) is iffy. The way you worded it just rubs me the wrong way?

And to answer your question, Karla brought it up here:

ender's posts 90% clear endless for me, and im also sure ayaya innocent based on how hard he pushed her earlygame. but you kno wat concerns me? that ender hasnt given any sort of read on trundle. i like ayaya's post on ender's nominations for king. i'm pretty sure one of trundle and tom are scum. it would be good if some ppl could help find other ppl that ender never gave reads on

You could see yourself that Ender has been calling me scum since D1 and repeatedly say so without stating his reason for thinking that.

1) I shot Endless because I read EnderWiggin as a blue role (which ended up being mafia, of course), and Endless to me looked like he was attacking Ender for very little reason. Especially near the end of night (I sent in my kill as a last minute decision.)
2) I sent the shot in because, after feeling that Endless was mafia, I knew that a mafia flip is often detrimental and discouraging for the mafia team, so I thought the risk to be worth it. In a PM allowed game I would have questioned him in PM before shooting, but I obviously couldn't do that.

Honestly this doesn't convince me... I'm sorry Trundle

Someone asked me who I'm suspicious of, and it is still mostly Daniel. I can taste his fear. I'm also kind of wondering about the MIA players. With the two blue kills, it could be possible that Dolby is mafia and just lying about his IRL situation, although I don't think he'd lie about something so drastic. He could still be mafia regardless. There is also someone who is completely AFK as far as I know, who is to be replaced.

And I'm less inclined to believe you when you mentioned Daniel once again, and now Dolby who's inactive and even more sus now with tonight's blue bloodbath. Like Oath has asked, I'd like to hear your other suspicions once you have time to look at the thread.

I'm giving you the benefit of doubt for your claim Trundle, but I'm seeing you as red for now and as Endless said to me, you can prove your alignment by contributing to town

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Also no one is campaigning to be King? Unless you're all just going to let Kingmaker decide for themselves

 

[oath2order]

If we do a mass role claim then the game is going to be handed to the mafia, and that we have 2 blue deaths on our hands right now.

Also, Dolby told me something interesting the other day. He compares meta when he's doing his blue sniping and then he chooses to kill them. He told me this when I asked how he did it:



So that be the case then last time Dolby happened to be online was Yesterday 07:04 PM, during the night.

I'm taking that from his current profile, but there is a chance that Dolby could be mafia in this sense.

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Thats not to mention that both Ashtot and Kit were doing things that were contradicted to their normal play styles.

I mean he did say his internest was dead

 

[N e s s]

Honestly this doesn't convince me... I'm sorry Trundle

Can you go into further detail on this? Why doesn't it convince you?

You could see yourself that Ender has been calling me scum since D1 and repeatedly say so without stating his reason for thinking that.

I'm willing to believe you on this. Ayaya is town until something else comes up.

Yeah that was a reaction test! Tina failed

What were you doing here?

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I want to hear more from Meg on what her suspicions are.

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I mean he did say his internest was dead

Well yeah, but he also said that he has the Library computer to talk to. I swear I saw him lurking down below yesterday, he didn't post. During Forest Fire he did this so its just worth noting.

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I now have 1.5 hours left on a library computer to do what I want

This is where he said this.

 

[Ayaya]

Can you go into further detail on this? Why doesn't it convince you?

It still doesn't explain to me why he used it as early as N1 instead of saving it for later. I thought he'd be wiser and save it until he's convinced on who is scum, especially with how Ender flipped today. He's a vet and I was expecting more from him

He may screw up with his reads tho like he said, which is why I want to see him contribute more to prove his alignment.

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Also, I personally think we should lynch Dolby on D3 instead. There's a chance he's not scum and mafia might use his reputation and inactivity to distract us and waste a lynch on him.

If he still doesn't post till D3, he'd really confuse town further (I'm reminded of CMD's reason for lynching Starry on Forest Fire on this) and lynching him then might be a good idea. I don't want to lynch him based on reputation and inactivity alone.

 

[EpicGamer12]

It still doesn't explain to me why he used it as early as N1 instead of saving it for later. I thought he'd be wiser and save it until he's convinced on who is scum, especially with how Ender flipped today. He's a vet and I was expecting more from him

He may screw up with his reads tho like he said, which is why I want to see him contribute more to prove his alignment.

I find it pretty rare for me to actually know who is scum late. My day one randoms are usually more accurate than my late game nit picking, Jubs will attest to that, if you want to read weeaboo mafia, I killed about 4-5 townies before finally finding the last mafia. This might be because I'm usually dead before late game so I don't really have much experience with it. I did explain why I shot early in my post earlier (and in a post a bit before that I think I mentioned in case I die before I got to use it, I am not certain).

I do understand your suspicions. Thankfully we still have nearly 30 hours or more left of day so just hold on tight.