Mafia TBT Mafia II: Mafia Strike Back [Game Over/Mafia Win]

Well, when we put speculations, we added our own opinions as to the situation.

Thank you. If you felt that I wasn't really adding anything, I really am trying to be a more active part of the town. I usually keep my eye out for posting things that will be productive.
 
Here are the posts made by our two suspects: Beary, and Waffles, all made with spoilers and quotes. All of these posts are from Day 1 and beyond. Note: I will not include extremely useless posts, but I will include regular useless posts. I may miss some posts. Use these spoilers to decide who you want to vote for. The spoilers are really long, especially Beary's.


I have no freakin idea what's going on O.O
I know nothing about this game.
Is it on a separate post?!?
I am in it though :3

I did ;-;
Really, I did...

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Are you serious?!

Nobody wants me in this game ;-;
I'm really sorry...
DONT HATE ME
GIRLS JUST WANNA HAVE FUN

You are suspicious, Mr. MyLifeIsCake >3>

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Any person who's name is Gandalf deserve to be mayor, lol

If the lurkers and silent voters don't play, is it possible they'll be modkilled for not posting here? If it was that, we wouldn't have people who sit and stare at us.=QUOTE]

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It's hard to trust anyone In this game...
I guess that's the point xD

I'm so frightened I'm going to die first O_O
But at least I could observe xD

I have no list...
This frightens me.

The reason why I don't post very often is because I have a family, and homework to do x|
I try to post as often as possible.

You people are scaring me...
Making wild accusations with no solid evidence xD

Here is an opinion-

BellBringerGreen seems suspicious.
Done.

I did not accuse him.
Just said he was suspicious ;D

He's being so active that he might just want to keep attention off himself...

What if he's a townie...
XD this is like trouble and terrorist town, when you kill somebody and they're an innocent, and your like OH CRAP

I just know I'm going to die tonight, as I was the second choice after Dolby...

Well, I'm not a mafia...
I'm a TOWNIE.
And if I was a mafia, I wouldn't have been shocked at all by Dolbys role. And it surprised me!

I'm very frightened, because I don't want any townies lost...
And myself.

I'm just gonna shut up ._.

I'd like to know that as well...
Detective, ROLE CHECK ME PLEASE!

When I said that for voting, I wasn't really familiar with the game, and I thought I would just do what everyone else is doing. I have learned my lesson.
I'm very socially awkward in real life, and I slip up easily...

Just to put it out there, IM A GIRL.

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And I am relatively sure I did not PM iLoveYou role claiming as a bodyguard. Unless I was alsleep at the time o.o
This is all getting very exciting :3

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So does anyone have an idea of who to lynch?

I'm at my classmate's house play prod practice

So you guys still focus on Beary? Hes a newbie for me just saying maybe that is why he looks suspicious and I'm not saying that he is a mafia or newbie but just in case guys if you are really sure that he is a mafia or something you may keep on eye on him.

IM A GIRL PPL

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Also, sorry for my inactivity today, as I has to go get shots ._.

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PITY ME

I'm not really sure, because of the incident and my shots (._.), I am still catching up.
BellBringer and Tom make me suspicious. I'm not accusing them, just have a feeling...>_>
Good luck to everyone in the lynching, because I have to go to bed soon and may not see the final verdict.

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THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING THAT I AM A GIRL...
Seriously though, bear in my username doesn't mean I'm a guy :(
Neither does the fact that I love Minecraft.

Sorry Tom XD
Just saying my suspicions. I'm getting a bit more confident with you, But BellBringer, I'm not so sure :/

BellBringerGreen is being very active, which may be trying not to act suspicious, or just being active.
And he has been very front about accusing people, so he might be trying to keep eyes off himself.

Again, these are just suspicions.
I'm really not very skilled with this game, so I'm probably wrong ._.

That is a very nice observation.
I agree that Horus is a suspect, but that doesn't 100% make him a mafia.

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I'm questioning, Superpenguin.

Spot on!
I'm still getting a feeling for the game, so I may make a few mistakes...

Horus has posted a might 5 TIMES!!!!

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Mighty * :p

Some players are lurking way to much...
It's really something to think about it.
And thank you, I'll probably post less from now on.

>.> Horus
You naughty naughty
Editin things

I'm reading through the first mafia, and it was much more relaxed and humorous, and seemed more enjoyable :(

I'm new at this. I needz actionz!
And anyways, I have nothing to do. :/

I vote to lynch ITookYourWaffles.
Done.
Yeah... I'm still thinking who to votes don't forget gallows and andy they are really good...
(vote wisely... Maybe one of them are Mafia).

List of people who are good or expert at this game: Jubs (dunno this person), Gandalf, AndyB, Gallows and Justin.
So who else? (Listing them because what if we vote a mafia player still thinking who to vote before day 1 ends)

Shuhhh just knew now Dx

I think I'm gonna vote for Kayla because she is honest or Blueleaf
((Still thinking who to vote)....

No school so yeah and I'm done with hand turkey thing

Ain't nobody got time for that :)
I guess we are very lucky that Mary got lynched I never seen her posting/voting.

Still we are very lucky... Dolby the Townie got lynched even how many times she said that shes a townie people still don't believe her.

I'm at my classmate's house play prod practice

So you guys still focus on Beary? Hes a newbie for me just saying maybe that is why he looks suspicious and I'm not saying that he is a mafia or newbie but just in case guys if you are really sure that he is a mafia or something you may keep on eye on him.

I'm not sure about this well for me somethings not right about 3DSFan because he is inactive (I have to re-read the post again and again)

And about this quote

I'm not sure if he wants to be Mafia or not, well what if he is a mafia? We don't have a solid proof that 3DSFan is a mafia. Now my question is did he (3DSFan) post something in day 1? I haven't seen him posting in night 1 and day 2. I'm sure he will be modkill tomorrow because he didn't post so yeah.

[Curious question]
Well what do you guys think of Dolby? Yeah I know she got lynched well do you guys think that he/she is a newbie?

I compiled their posts into spoilers so people having a hard time choosing who to vote for can look here.
 
If Waffles can manage to defend herself and convince me of her innocence, then I'd have no issue with voting for lynn. I've been debating between the two.
 
The problem I have with Beary509 is that she role-claimed to me two different times, through PM with two different Town roles. I'm trying to figure out why. She PM'd me first saying she was Townie. Was it a newbie mistake, in thinking Townie was the same thing as Town (technically it is, but Townie is it's own role itself)? She is definitly a newbie though. Which is why I don't want to waste a lynch on her.

With iTookYourWaffles it's really hard for me to enter a vote. Although I am still leaning towards her. The arguments facing her are so strong but I am trying to keep in mind the "What if she was framed" argument, posted by FireNinja1 and myself. Also MyLeIsCake made some good points about iTookYourWaffles:

Everyone seems to going with waffles, though I'm going with VD, I don't think they are Mafia b/c no one has really stood up for them. Yes, Laurina did end up dead after accusing waffles. But like Fireninja said, the mafia likes to cause trouble on day 2. It is unlikley that the Mafia would just stand there and let their members be lynched. Waffles also hasn't said anything about this and I would at least hope that the mafia would be smart enough to tell their fellow member to stand up for theirself. I still have to say lynn05 (sorry if I typed that wrong, I'm on mobile) remains suspicious in my book because they haven't posted much, and I know well they were viewing this thread after Gandalf, Laurina, and Kippla were killed. As I said before, its one thing if you're busy, but if you are active, online and viewing the thread, I don't see why you don't even attempt to post unless you're afraid of slip ups.

Right now I am thinking about a potential option number 3. I am not confident enough that iTookYourWaffles is Town to be able to pardon her lynch (if it happens) and I still definitely will not pardon Beary509's lynch if it comes to it.
 
If Waffles can manage to defend herself and convince me of her innocence, then I'd have no issue with voting for lynn. I've been debating between the two.

This. This is my reasoning. I want to see Waffles defend herself. If she doesn't, I'll vote for her. If she does, I'll vote for Lynn. I'm not worrying about Beary since she's just a horrible, inexperienced Townie. If she keeps slipping up though, I doubt she'll be alive for long.
 
This is so discouraging!
Everyone thinks I'm mafia! I'm trying my best to fit in, but this is just not working ;-;
I still understand this game, but I've made an image of myself that nobody can change.
I'm not a newbie anymore, but everyone is convinced I am. I have to solid evidence supporting my claim that I am not mafia, but, of course, nobody cares about little miss newbies 'uncontributing spam'. I'm trying to make the game more enjoyable, and I even up making it worse.

I may as well just bury myself.
BUT.
-Waffles has made close to zero contributions as well.
- He was quick to point fingers.
- He keeps bringing up Dolby, which may be a sign of pride from killing her.

Thank you. I'm not going to post any more until the lynching.
I may as well say goodbye, and,
I TOLD YA SO.

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Also-

- This is my first time playing
- I got town and townie confused
- I'm a bit socially awkward in general.
 
With iTookYourWaffles it's really hard for me to enter a vote. Although I am still leaning towards her. The arguments facing her are so strong but I am trying to keep in mind the "What if she was framed" argument, posted by FireNinja1 and myself. Also MyLeIsCake made some good points about iTookYourWaffles:

I have a bit of the problem with the whole If they're mafia, why doesn't the mafia come in and defend them? theory. Because, really, now the mafia can use VD's post as a cover-up for trying to draw votes away from beary and/or Waffles. Several players have all ready referred to it agreeing that the mafia would've come in and tried to protect the suspects.

The mafia isn't going to come in and come right out and say things like "Come on, you guys really think Waffles is suspicious? Look at what so-so is doing, put attention on them!" No, they're going to go about it sneakily, and VD just gave them the perfect post to use. Now they can go about pulling votes away by agreeing with VD's logic and saying "Come on guys, there's no members in here trying to protect Waffles or Beary, they're obviously not mafia".

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This is probably just a shot in the dark, but I don't think either of them are Mafia. Nobody has brought up other names, and nobody has really said why neither of them are Mafia. The mafia themselves can see this and can just let everyone else vote for either of those 2, knowing full well that they both aren't Mafia.

This was the post I was referring to, but I guess I ended up pulling in elements from Cake's post too...so I qoted both and highlighted the points.

Everyone seems to going with waffles, though I'm going with VD, I don't think they are Mafia b/c no one has really stood up for them. Yes, Laurina did end up dead after accusing waffles. But like Fireninja said, the mafia likes to cause trouble on day 2. It is unlikley that the Mafia would just stand there and let their members be lynched. Waffles also hasn't said anything about this and I would at least hope that the mafia would be smart enough to tell their fellow member to stand up for theirself.

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VD, Cake, and now Kayla are indirectly standing up for these people. Make of that as you will, but this doesn't make me suspect either three of them as mafia.
 
Beary: Your evidence could end up as a game-changing piece of information. Guess we'll never know. You will likely get put on the banlist for giving up. You should give the evidence while you can. It probably won't get considered spam and you even might redeem yourself. Of course, I won't stop you from giving up.
 
I'm not giving up. I've just lost all hope in my innocence.

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And I gave evidence.
 
I've given up on there being people believing in my innocence.

Kayla does, and I'm sure more people do. There will be even more people if you give clear evidence of your innocence. See, what you just did may have just caused more suspicion. You shifted attention from yourself to Waffles, which isn't a good idea. Instead of suspecting others, defend yourself.
 
i wont vote for beary because eh yeah she just made a lot of mistakes and shes probably young

for waffles, i feel like if she was mafia and killed laurina it would be way too obvious. i feel like mafia is trying to shift blame onto her. yeah it was weird she randomly switched the topic to dolby, but that might be because shes a newbie. i really dont wanna vote for either of them though. but im probably very wrong ,
ill shut up now
 
Has anybody read my post?
I gave evidence.
If you need more, fine.

- I didn't understand that a townie and a town were different, that is why Kayla said I was two things. I corrected my mistake.
-I am new at this game.
-I am trying very hard to be a valuable poster.

That is all I can think of right now.

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Didn't you say you weren't going to post anymore?

Oh speaking of useles non contributing posts?
 
Has anybody read my post?
I gave evidence.
If you need more, fine.

- I didn't understand that a townie and a town were different, that is why Kayla said I was two things. I corrected my mistake.
-I am new at this game.
-I am trying very hard to be a valuable poster.

That is all I can think of right now.

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Oh speaking of useles non contributing posts?
Remember that this is only a game and it shouldn't be taken too seriously, I'm sure that everyone has at least contributed something good.
It's only Day Two and not a lot of people have good evidence right now so don't think that the accusations are rock solid.
 
Personally I do plan on submitting a vote for one of the two. Like I said I am leaning towards iTookYourWaffles. I just have a hard time submitting it due to the arguments made in her defence. It's not so much defending her rather having the Town thinking about what IF they are both innocent town players. I understand most lynches will be huge "hits or misses" in terms of whether we hit a mafia player or not. That is why I feel like with every vote, we should think over the arguments for and against the two people up for lynching.

Like I said Superpenguin, Lynn105 is still on my suspicion list too but I feel like this will mostly come down to Beary509 versus iTookYourWaffles. Which is why if we are making a decision between those two, we need to pick the more suspicious of the two by laying out all our arguments for and against them.
 
Kayla: I made a post with spoilers including Beary's and Waffle's posts. If you don't want to read it, then I guess I can do something. I'm going to try and write in the mindset of people who think XXX is innocent/scum.

Beary's Innocence Argument: She is a new player and slips up often. I guess this means she's still getting used to this game, which is a bad reason to vote for someone.

Beary's Scum Argument: She shifted attention from her to Waffles, which is suspicious. We saw what happened with Dolby.

Waffle's Innocence Argument: Waffles is most likely getting framed by the Mafia. Once suspicion laid down in Waffles, the Mafia shot Laurina to cause chaos.

Waffle's Scum Argument: Waffles could have shot Laurina for either: a) The Mafia just wanted to shoot a good player ; b) The Mafia was afraid of Waffles getting caught.

Remember, this is written in the mind set of people who think XXX is innocent/scum.
 
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