Mafia TBT Mafia III: The Murder Before Christmas [Game Over/Town Win]

[kittenrobotarmy]

You've seen how convincing Karla is. If he's suspected, he'll probably direct attention elsewhere or, more likely, ask questions as to why he's suspected. Karla's scum buddies could also come in, or Town buddies depending on who's trying to lynch him.

 

[BellGreen]

You've seen how convincing Karla is. If he's suspected, he'll probably direct attention elsewhere or, more likely, ask questions as to why he's suspected. Karla's scum buddies could also come in, or Town buddies depending on who's trying to lynch him.

What would you be like if you were suspected? I say that even I would try to direct attention elsewhere.
Also. i've see how Blu Rose is convincing Karla that he is mafia. He hasn't even asked too much questions about why he's suspected. Has any other suspicious person come up yet assuming mafia? Not really. Has anyone even roleclaimed as Townie AND has had people kind of defend her? Blu Rose and you as well, including most of the candidates for mayor. However, YOU seem like you think Blu isn't mafia.
So tell everyone else; what do you truly feel about Blu?

 

[Princess]

I dont..what.
DUDE. If he goes all Obama on us and doesnt act like he's claiming he will, then lynch him! Not that hard to understand.

 

[Superpenguin]

You've seen how convincing Karla is. If he's suspected, he'll probably direct attention elsewhere or, more likely, ask questions as to why he's suspected. Karla's scum buddies could also come in, or Town buddies depending on who's trying to lynch him.

The bold seems to imply a scenario where the mafia is trying to lynch him, so wouldn't that be a good thing he is defending himself?

And seriously? Everyone should direct attention elsewhere and especially ask questions as to why they are suspected! You should never be lynched without knowing why you are being suspected. If you don't even know the reasons for the suspicions against you, how would you defend yourself?

If you fully believe Karla is mafia at any point in the game, then hold your ground against him and his defenders. Avoid being so wishy-washy.

 

[Blu Rose]

Kippla's conversation:

Spoiler

Okay, Kippla pointed out:
"I think Karla is Mafia. He keeps repeatedly saying that we're fearing him for no reason when he knows, probably better than all of us, that Mafia is a game of trust and logic. Does Karla expect us to trust him right away?"

After saying he would lurk the thread, he pointed out that he thought Hikari was a better option, causing me to think that they were both Mafia. He pointed out something about last game electing TWO SCUM and how much of a ruin that made the town, and that he didn't want a replay of that.

He then pointed out that Kayla did a great job hiding her godfather role and Karla could do the same thing--just as easily. I replied to this with an, " Only reason I believe you now."

After a little shady part in my memory (I can't remember!), he thought that BellBringerGreen might be Mafia, with evidence such as, and I quote, "He's barely posting and when he does, it's usually against someone like me: Active and eager to play, yet innocent." BellBringerGreen was not talked about the rest of the time.

I then pointed out that we were probably being waaaaaayy too quick coming to conclusions, and we departed with, "May the better person die!"

Any questions?

- - - Post Merge - - -

BellBringerGreen: I know why I am suspected. It's because of my strategy of gameplay. I just go with it.

So, why am I suspected, by others than Karla, as I already know why you suspect me? Or, rather, I just want to hear all of your opinions on me.

- - - Post Merge - - -

The only reason Kippla is "kind of" defending me is the PM chat.

 

[BellGreen]

@Kippla
I am just trying to help.
While I am "barely posting," you are "always posting." Sure, I know you are just a beginning player like me and that even I am excited to play. But I am posting more than some of the other players here. Does that just mean I'm suspicious as well? I'm just trying to prove my points.

 

[KarlaKGB]

Everyone's scared he's Mafia, which will murder the Town. But if Karla clearly holds up his promises if he's Mayor, then I will believe fully that Karla is a Town member.

You will have to clarify this for me. You say that people are scared I'm Mafia and I will destroy the town. You either mean two things here
1. People are scared that anyone elected could be Mafia and destroy the town.
2. People are specifically scared of me being Mafia and getting elected and destroying the town.

I have already addressed point one multiple times.

But with point 2, it implies you think I am a powerful player. This seems to go against your insistence that you have not seen me play, and would rather vote for VD as he is more experienced.

 

[kittenrobotarmy]

@Green: I have not decided. Blu, like Beary, just seemed to be a newbie making mistakes. However, I find it odd that he keeps saying 'lynch me'. Blu doesn't seem to have confidence in himself. In our convos, I didn't really say any new information that would ruin the Town if leaked to the Mafia. So, I think he is either an very bad Town player or a Mafia player. I'm not really thinking he's Mafia here, because this seems to be what happened with Beary. That is all i really have to say.


SP: If I recall, Karla said he would ask why he was suspected. I actually wouldn't try to direct attention because that makes you more suspicious that you are just now pointing a finger at some random player because you are desperate. You might just be attacked by the opposing side with no reason, because they'll do anything possible to get a good player out of the way.

 

[Blu Rose]

Oh, forgot to mention we did a simple little role-swap. We both just said that we were townie, and he said, "I don't care if you lie to me. I just want to know if it is safe to keep PMing you."

 

[BlueLeaf]

Blu Rose: You haven't answered my questions. Why are you bringing up Lynn, and how can you be sure Kippla is innocent? You said it yourself in your conversation: It's way too early to be making decisions.

 

[Superpenguin]

SP: If I recall, Karla said he would ask why he was suspected. I actually wouldn't try to direct attention because that makes you more suspicious that you are just now pointing a finger at some random player because you are desperate. You might just be attacked by the opposing side with no reason, because they'll do anything possible to get a good player out of the way.

WHAT!?!?!?! How does asking why you are suspected point fingers at anyone else?

Oh, forgot to mention we did a simple little role-swap. We both just said that we were townie, and he said, "I don't care if you lie to me. I just want to know if it is safe to keep PMing you."

That's just completely stupid.

 

[kittenrobotarmy]

You will have to clarify this for me. You say that people are scared I'm Mafia and I will destroy the town. You either mean two things here
1. People are scared that anyone elected could be Mafia and destroy the town.
2. People are specifically scared of me being Mafia and getting elected and destroying the town.

I have already addressed point one multiple times.

But with point 2, it implies you think I am a powerful player. This seems to go against your insistence that you have not seen me play, and would rather vote for VD as he is more experienced.

I didn't say you were less experienced, I said I had never seen your play style in various situations. But at this point, point 2 is more likely considering you have plenty of supporters. That's why some people are hesitant to vote for you. You have played many games of Mafia on other sites and you know more than the rest of us. You might use some of that unknown knowledge to help you trick us. That's the main fear.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Oh, forgot to mention we did a simple little role-swap. We both just said that we were townie, and he said, "I don't care if you lie to me. I just want to know if it is safe to keep PMing you."

Oh yeah, we did. I'm a girl, by the way.

I didn't care about you lying since I was not planning to try and discuss any game-changing info that the Mafia would want to get their hands on.

 

[Blu Rose]

Oh, sorry BlueLeaf. I bring up Lynn because she is my one and only friend, and, well, yeah. I can't be sure, but, Mafia is kind of like the Hunger Games, in a respect. You trust a little band of people, and hope for the best. If you end up being wrong, you die. If you end up being right, you might survive, but with a lot better chances. Overall, I found my little band, and one of them has turned against me I can only hope for the best.

 

[BellGreen]

I didn't care about you lying since I was not planning to try and discuss any game-changing info that the Mafia would want to get their hands on.

Is there any way for Mafia to get their hands on something through a Private Message? More, wouldn't revealing this information in public be dumb as well?

 

[kittenrobotarmy]

WHAT!?!?!?! How does asking why you are suspected point fingers at anyone else?

Those were actually two separate things, I didn't make a space between them. But if you were suspected and you were Mafia, it's possible you'd point fingers at someone else randomly, making you even more suspicious. I did ask Karla what he would do, and all he said was that he'd ask and discuss why he was suspected. Then, he'd go and look for solid evidence to question someone else. If you panicked though, the first thing is probably what would happen.

 

[Superpenguin]

Is there any way for Mafia to get their hands on something through a Private Message? More, wouldn't revealing this information in public be dumb as well?

The person receiving the message is playing the game.

 

[kittenrobotarmy]

Is there any way for Mafia to get their hands on something through a Private Message? More, wouldn't revealing this information in public be dumb as well?

I told you, it's not anything that new. Even if Blu was Mafia, what we discussed wasn't secret or unknown.

 

[Superpenguin]

Those were actually two separate things, I didn't make a space between them. But if you were suspected and you were Mafia, it's possible you'd point fingers at someone else randomly, making you even more suspicious. I did ask Karla what he would do, and all he said was that he'd ask and discuss why he was suspected. Then, he'd go and look for solid evidence to question someone else. If you panicked though, the first thing is probably what would happen.

I don't see anything wrong in pointing fingers once you are accused especially if all your defense arguments are failing. As long as you stick to accusing only one person with solid reasons and evidence to back up your claim, I see no problem. Randomly firing off accusations in a desperate attempt will definitely not help your case. But there is a large gap between being desperate and being defensive.

 

[kittenrobotarmy]

I've answered all the questions truthfully, guys. I'm not telling lies here, and what I said about Blu was true. I'm not quite sure if they're Mafia or Town. I'm getting off, so if you want to keep having me answer questions, PM me.

 

[cannedcommunism]

The only "flaws" you appear to be pointing out are that my promises are not believable. Why are they not believable? What can I do to make them more believable?

Only make promises you can keep, Karla. Don't overshoot yourself.