Mafia TBT Mafia: Renaissance - Game Thread [ENDGAME - Town Wins]
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most of these are nulls because i barely know how to read people this game and have been fairly busy.
daniel - daniel has been extremely investigative this whole game. some consider him as nitpicky but regardless of experience, a scum would want to back away from *too much* conversation and talking in fear of getting cornered, counter-argued or slipping. i think skar (rip) mentioned that taking a leader-type role in the thread is something that an authoritative scum would want to do, but i beg to differ. he hasn't been controlling people in the sense where he's telling people what to do and who to vote for. i personally think that his contributions have helped town, as they have formulated discussion that provides insight about the other side of what players are saying (see the quote below). my only suspicion here is that he cfd'd (kind of dislike using this term, back when i played werewolf we called it blitz) from the trundle to jacob wagon. but as i mentioned earlier, it could just be an act of second guessing or panic.
trundle - i'm pretty null on trundle and that is because i don't necessarily believe that his continuous self-awareness is suspicious. as i said before, a mafia would be very concerned about what others think of them and if this were the case for trundle, he would most likely cut the act off and play as normal to get on people's townleans. however, some of his logic (like that weird journal thing) doesn't make sense to me and him revoking a lot of the things that he is saying seems like he's very all over the place with his thoughts and reads. the role pm thing just seems like a complete misunderstanding to me, and that's why i didn't vote for trundle.
emolga39 - though they have a small amount of posts, i like the effort that they are putting in and they seem pretty open to sharing their thoughts. recently they have been acting a bit confused, especially when it came to their reaction to eod and their whole explanation for their vote, but it gives me scared or confused town vibes.
evan - i like his posts and criticism, but reading up on his locket iso, i feel that he's being a bit too critical/picky. he defined her as 'sus' after only examining her rqs post. he also kind of contradicted himself when he said:
however, i like his idea about the 'perspective slip' and his previous posts.
oath - oath's posts feel very lacklustre i guess. people have painted him out as an experienced player so i'm not sure whether i'm inclined to believe that this is his normal playstyle.
punchy - both evan and geoni did mention that punchy's playstyle stayed the same so i have to cool down with him and examine his previous posts. i've got to admit that looking at his post style, his random assumptions don't really give the tone of mafia as he seems to be speaking his mind (though some of his ideas are questionable), and he doesn't seem to be afraid of getting sussed for that very reason.
antonio - i've got to admit that i did townlean skar because i liked her posts, but maybe that was newbie bias. i agree with heyden when he says that nothing compelled antonio to claim as mason, especially because he claimed about an hour and a half before night ended? this didn't benefit town at all. it's looking really weird for me, antonio is a null for now.
panda - she confuses me a lot. i don't mean to be aggressive that she voted me, but the fact that she didn't respond when i asked her twice about why she voted me may either indicate that she can't explain it or just overlooked it. she read me as sus because my rq answers felt 'forced' and that's about all the evidence that she had presented in the thread for voting me.
sheabae - not to be mean, but i almost forgot that he existed. his 'let's get the ball rolling' command felt pretty forced despite the fact that he hasn't been active himself for a while. as well as that, they randomly checked in, voted trundle, then ran away. right now i'm not going to go too deep into this read for obvious reasons.
daniel - daniel has been extremely investigative this whole game. some consider him as nitpicky but regardless of experience, a scum would want to back away from *too much* conversation and talking in fear of getting cornered, counter-argued or slipping. i think skar (rip) mentioned that taking a leader-type role in the thread is something that an authoritative scum would want to do, but i beg to differ. he hasn't been controlling people in the sense where he's telling people what to do and who to vote for. i personally think that his contributions have helped town, as they have formulated discussion that provides insight about the other side of what players are saying (see the quote below). my only suspicion here is that he cfd'd (kind of dislike using this term, back when i played werewolf we called it blitz) from the trundle to jacob wagon. but as i mentioned earlier, it could just be an act of second guessing or panic.
i agree with this point very much and would find that a scum would either flat out disagree with this and say nothing, or agree with it in hopes of disguising themselves. he's done more but i'm not going to quote every post because this isn't an iso.
trundle - i'm pretty null on trundle and that is because i don't necessarily believe that his continuous self-awareness is suspicious. as i said before, a mafia would be very concerned about what others think of them and if this were the case for trundle, he would most likely cut the act off and play as normal to get on people's townleans. however, some of his logic (like that weird journal thing) doesn't make sense to me and him revoking a lot of the things that he is saying seems like he's very all over the place with his thoughts and reads. the role pm thing just seems like a complete misunderstanding to me, and that's why i didn't vote for trundle.
emolga39 - though they have a small amount of posts, i like the effort that they are putting in and they seem pretty open to sharing their thoughts. recently they have been acting a bit confused, especially when it came to their reaction to eod and their whole explanation for their vote, but it gives me scared or confused town vibes.
evan - i like his posts and criticism, but reading up on his locket iso, i feel that he's being a bit too critical/picky. he defined her as 'sus' after only examining her rqs post. he also kind of contradicted himself when he said:
but then goes on to say:
he goes on about how she's parroting other people's thoughts and posting weak reads, but she wouldn't post such filler if she had experienced players as scummates.
however, i like his idea about the 'perspective slip' and his previous posts.
oath - oath's posts feel very lacklustre i guess. people have painted him out as an experienced player so i'm not sure whether i'm inclined to believe that this is his normal playstyle.
punchy - both evan and geoni did mention that punchy's playstyle stayed the same so i have to cool down with him and examine his previous posts. i've got to admit that looking at his post style, his random assumptions don't really give the tone of mafia as he seems to be speaking his mind (though some of his ideas are questionable), and he doesn't seem to be afraid of getting sussed for that very reason.
antonio - i've got to admit that i did townlean skar because i liked her posts, but maybe that was newbie bias. i agree with heyden when he says that nothing compelled antonio to claim as mason, especially because he claimed about an hour and a half before night ended? this didn't benefit town at all. it's looking really weird for me, antonio is a null for now.
panda - she confuses me a lot. i don't mean to be aggressive that she voted me, but the fact that she didn't respond when i asked her twice about why she voted me may either indicate that she can't explain it or just overlooked it. she read me as sus because my rq answers felt 'forced' and that's about all the evidence that she had presented in the thread for voting me.
sheabae - not to be mean, but i almost forgot that he existed. his 'let's get the ball rolling' command felt pretty forced despite the fact that he hasn't been active himself for a while. as well as that, they randomly checked in, voted trundle, then ran away. right now i'm not going to go too deep into this read for obvious reasons.
Antonio
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I wish punchy would push a little more with his opinions.
God, my grammar mistakes has been terrible in this game.
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God, my grammar mistakes has been terrible in this game.
oath2order
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If I die do you still want a reads list y/n
oath2order
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> only person to push Heyden as scum
> magically appears as the bottom of Heyden's scum reads list
WOW shocker omgus
i sure hope so. lol
EpicGamer12
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maybe you could read them off to me in msn messenger
From best to worst
Town I feel solid about
Dan
Antonio
Punchy
shawo
Mog
Trundle
Harbour
Town that I could be wrong about but still lean
For some reason all my bolding and underlining options aren't enabled sorry
DinoTown
tae
f11
AmazonEvan
Questionable/Scumlean/the current N1 scum pool
Emolga
Heyden
glow
Locket
oath2order
shaebae
I'm not entirely sure the scumpool is in order of least to most sus really and some don't align well so moving forward I need to worldbuild.
Town I feel solid about
Dan
Antonio
Punchy
shawo
Mog
Trundle
Harbour
Town that I could be wrong about but still lean
For some reason all my bolding and underlining options aren't enabled sorry
DinoTown
tae
f11
AmazonEvan
Questionable/Scumlean/the current N1 scum pool
Emolga
Heyden
glow
Locket
oath2order
shaebae
I'm not entirely sure the scumpool is in order of least to most sus really and some don't align well so moving forward I need to worldbuild.
Antonio
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This is what i said about trundle early game. He downplayed sus opinions on him by stating it was 'newb play' or 'the usual' and townread the people who sussed him.
Damniel
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ok might die might not but lets get these reads out. I took to long to write these and couldn't finish everyone, but I will finish them right after this comes out (i just want this posted before EoN). the 7 people I have left are both town, null, and scum reads- i just didn't get to them yet.
Trundle- Yes he was my top scumread for most of the game and I didn't keep my vote on him. But, I think he reacted well enough to EoD and his post quality has increased more. I'm still hesitant to fully believe that he was so clueless that he says he was, but i'll let it pass for now. Not comfortable with TR him yet but I don't think he should be lynched D2.
Locket- im inclined to think that locket is more town due to bringing up the idea that there could be masons and for not giving into pressure for giving reads. while i think these behaviors are town, locket hasn't produced much substance to make me think that they're town (their behavior and reads read off the same). As im also writing this I just read her reads posts and eh, kinda weak. she's really banking on EoN to drastically change the flow of the game and while that might be true, I can't give a solid read until she actually improves her reads D2
PunchyDaHufflepuff- i think his behavior has townie although I don't really agree with his reads. his post quality has improved since the beginning of the game and while they're not in depth enough, i can still get a sense of what he's trying to say. I think his interactions with people are more town telling, except when it comes to him with antonio which is more emotional. i hope he posts more detailed stuff out, but for now I still sense he's town
Geoni- i initially scum read geo for wishy washy reads in the beginning, but his posts in N1 are much much better than they are in D1. We actually share very similar thoughts and say them at similar times but that's more of an odd coincidence. I can't yet fully trust him since we've yet to see if our reads lead to getting a scum, but out of the scum hunters im willing to work with geo the most
Antonio- I initially townread him when i first started writing this post, but after seeing the recent mason claim, I realize that he largely contributed to the paranoia of EoD with the emotional argument against Shawo, and now with the EoN with the mason claim. I won't fully believe a mason claim yet, but his behaviors in the end of both phases has created a lot of filler and makes it harder to look back at the game. Part of me still thinks this is town due to the stark contrast with his scum play last game, but he's been one of the most harmful towns if he is.
PandaDarling- Panda feels super disconnected from the game and hasn't given much substance except calling out the "The Town" thing (which was p weak tbh) and try to remember back to games from years ago. the interaction that we just had wasn't good. Panda fails to acknowledge what's been happening in the game and openly said they're playing like they're old townie self, which just screams that she's conscious of her gameplay. While she says that she's playing like her town self, she also states that she doesn't think she's ever been scum, which is contradictory since if she has no scum meta all of her meta is town and super old which means its not reliable to compare her to now.
Sheabae- i've called shae out several times for the mysterious vote and they still haven't come in. They did state they were sus of trundle so the vote isn't surprising but the lack of trying to push the lynch and generally keeping a low profile (which is working as no one really talks about them) is one of the most sus things to me. if anyone of the lurkers are most likely scum, its shae
glow- as stated before, the sudden pop in to try to lead an oath lynch is still sus to me. it doesn't seem like glow is trying to scum hunt this game and tried to push oath to get towncred for not following a wagon while still knowing oath would not be lynched. i think if glow tried to get the panda wagon going things would make more sense as shed be committing to a lynch she actually believed in, but i honestly think glow and panda could be teamed so scum glow explains much more. she also hasn't said much recently which hasn't helped her case
Mogyay- Mog's behavior and tone come off as genuine town to me (albeit unconfident). I think her vote change and confusion makes sense and there's not that really sets me off about her except that she hasn't pushed anyone yet, but that's something i hope and think she'll do D2 with more confidence
Harbour- I think out of all the new players this game, they're the most actively helpful one and i see that they're trying their best. Their vote on punchy can be seen as a way to not commit to a wagon like glow did, but harbor was present this whole game and has been much more critical, i just think they didn't know how to lead a wagon. this rationale isn't as strong i admit but i still lean towards town
Trundle- Yes he was my top scumread for most of the game and I didn't keep my vote on him. But, I think he reacted well enough to EoD and his post quality has increased more. I'm still hesitant to fully believe that he was so clueless that he says he was, but i'll let it pass for now. Not comfortable with TR him yet but I don't think he should be lynched D2.
Locket- im inclined to think that locket is more town due to bringing up the idea that there could be masons and for not giving into pressure for giving reads. while i think these behaviors are town, locket hasn't produced much substance to make me think that they're town (their behavior and reads read off the same). As im also writing this I just read her reads posts and eh, kinda weak. she's really banking on EoN to drastically change the flow of the game and while that might be true, I can't give a solid read until she actually improves her reads D2
PunchyDaHufflepuff- i think his behavior has townie although I don't really agree with his reads. his post quality has improved since the beginning of the game and while they're not in depth enough, i can still get a sense of what he's trying to say. I think his interactions with people are more town telling, except when it comes to him with antonio which is more emotional. i hope he posts more detailed stuff out, but for now I still sense he's town
Geoni- i initially scum read geo for wishy washy reads in the beginning, but his posts in N1 are much much better than they are in D1. We actually share very similar thoughts and say them at similar times but that's more of an odd coincidence. I can't yet fully trust him since we've yet to see if our reads lead to getting a scum, but out of the scum hunters im willing to work with geo the most
Antonio- I initially townread him when i first started writing this post, but after seeing the recent mason claim, I realize that he largely contributed to the paranoia of EoD with the emotional argument against Shawo, and now with the EoN with the mason claim. I won't fully believe a mason claim yet, but his behaviors in the end of both phases has created a lot of filler and makes it harder to look back at the game. Part of me still thinks this is town due to the stark contrast with his scum play last game, but he's been one of the most harmful towns if he is.
PandaDarling- Panda feels super disconnected from the game and hasn't given much substance except calling out the "The Town" thing (which was p weak tbh) and try to remember back to games from years ago. the interaction that we just had wasn't good. Panda fails to acknowledge what's been happening in the game and openly said they're playing like they're old townie self, which just screams that she's conscious of her gameplay. While she says that she's playing like her town self, she also states that she doesn't think she's ever been scum, which is contradictory since if she has no scum meta all of her meta is town and super old which means its not reliable to compare her to now.
Sheabae- i've called shae out several times for the mysterious vote and they still haven't come in. They did state they were sus of trundle so the vote isn't surprising but the lack of trying to push the lynch and generally keeping a low profile (which is working as no one really talks about them) is one of the most sus things to me. if anyone of the lurkers are most likely scum, its shae
glow- as stated before, the sudden pop in to try to lead an oath lynch is still sus to me. it doesn't seem like glow is trying to scum hunt this game and tried to push oath to get towncred for not following a wagon while still knowing oath would not be lynched. i think if glow tried to get the panda wagon going things would make more sense as shed be committing to a lynch she actually believed in, but i honestly think glow and panda could be teamed so scum glow explains much more. she also hasn't said much recently which hasn't helped her case
Mogyay- Mog's behavior and tone come off as genuine town to me (albeit unconfident). I think her vote change and confusion makes sense and there's not that really sets me off about her except that she hasn't pushed anyone yet, but that's something i hope and think she'll do D2 with more confidence
Harbour- I think out of all the new players this game, they're the most actively helpful one and i see that they're trying their best. Their vote on punchy can be seen as a way to not commit to a wagon like glow did, but harbor was present this whole game and has been much more critical, i just think they didn't know how to lead a wagon. this rationale isn't as strong i admit but i still lean towards town
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thread was locked and now it's not
did i beat ness to day post
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you typoed "i didn't do here so heres my new excuse to not contribute"
Trundle is there not panda
Day 2
Damniel and Emolga59 were both killed last night. Their roles were both Vanilla Townie.
Here is the Art Trivia for Day 2:
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Day 2 has now begun. You have roughly 50 hours to lynch someone. With the playercount now being at 17, Majority to immediately lynch is 9.
The final deadline has been extended to 10:00 PM CDT. This should help a majority of the player count with their schedules during these trying times.
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