Actually, in retrospect, I was tired and acted very stupidly. I still regret it to this day.
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Mafia TBT Mafia V: There and Back Again [Game Over/Town Win]
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Actually, in retrospect, I was tired and acted very stupidly. I still regret it to this day.
Regardless, I hope the ones who are trying to get me lynched get inspected. I really hope this is Town simply making a mistake on another Town player. I don't think if you guys were Mafia that you would make it this painfully obvious. Although I have a feeling you guys have other players working in PMs with you.
Like I said there are many complications with wanting to inspect me Night One. The whole Town has pretty much yelled that they feel I am suspicious which makes me a prime candidate to get framed if we have Framers in this game. Not to mention FanousOnTheLoose keeps insisting that I get inspected tonight. I feel like I'm almost being set up here.
The Mafia will want to get me lynched rather than hit me at Night simply because it is the easiest way to get me out. Which is why I find it odd that you guys are suddenly going hard against me. It's most likely because you do know my role & one of you have been influenced by a red player, to target me specifically.
Like I said there are many complications with wanting to inspect me Night One. The whole Town has pretty much yelled that they feel I am suspicious which makes me a prime candidate to get framed if we have Framers in this game. Not to mention FanousOnTheLoose keeps insisting that I get inspected tonight. I feel like I'm almost being set up here.
The Mafia will want to get me lynched rather than hit me at Night simply because it is the easiest way to get me out. Which is why I find it odd that you guys are suddenly going hard against me. It's most likely because you do know my role & one of you have been influenced by a red player, to target me specifically.
Like I said, feel free to add or remove names. As a town we ought to work together to work it.
Not to mention I would seriously hate it if both Detectives (assuming we had 2) wasted an inspection on me. I'm sure the Detectives did not find eachother yet and if they can't co-ordinate amongst themselves then they should take the risk and inspect others. This does not mean I do not want to be inspected. This means, I do not want the Town to focus on one player & use up all their night actions solely on that one person. That'd be ridiculous.
EpicGamer12
Senior Member
I'm not exactly sure why I'm on there. I mean, if a DT checks me and a Doctor protects me, then I will surely meet the Detective, but I don't think I've done much worth protecting or inspecting. I was also wondering why I was the first name haha
Superpenguin
Penguins! <3
I think it's clear to say some names were just put on the list to lengthen it so framers and detectives wouldn't hit the same person.
oath2order
#Porygon2024
Well, what I think happens, is that in the case here, nobody wanted to join you against Kayla because they were probably afraid she'd turn it around on them. I could probably argue against her, so could you, but there are some players who definitely couldn't.
For the bad acting with Beary. I don't know, it's not my list.
Sorry, and who all is following Karla, Blu Rose? If I recall correctly it looked like Karla was convinced on lynching Kayla. How did that turn out? Yeah, didn't happen. I don't really recall too many people following Karla.
I actually did mention this to Superpenguin.
[15:00] <oath2order> Huh, okay, so I guess I'm much of a concern for him
[15:00] <Superpenguin> haha, you didn't make it on the list
[15:02] <oath2order> I feel like there's some big player in the game he's missing
[15:02] <oath2order> huh
[15:02] <Superpenguin> Laurina?
Heck no.
Detectives definitely need to consider not revealing themselves right away to anyone they inspect. We could potentially have a Godfather in this game. Not only that, but it's clear certain players are working together. Any of their circles can be corrupted and if I ever do get lynched it will prove even more that their circles are infiltrated by a red player.
Otherwise we are dealing with Town players versus Town players, which is sad.
better folks? :/
EpicGamer12
Senior Member
So what's the point of the Doctors protecting people that are being inspected if they aren't being kept alive to meet the DT? I may be missing something here, just a bit confused.
It's so inspections actually go through and we can work with the results.
It's pretty much hit & miss at this point because the list is so large, but honestly if Detectives inspect dead players, it will be a night wasted. We just have to hope that the Detectives & Doctors make lucky choices tonight on who to inspect / protect.
EpicGamer12
Senior Member
So is this saying that you or other people are already working with the Detective? Because if not, there's really no strategy there.
Absolutely not. When I say "we" I am referring to Town players in general. No important blue roles have claimed to me. I am not working with any of them.
EpicGamer12
Senior Member
Okay.. While I still don't understand, I'll take your word for it.
Also, did anyone notice earlier how eager beary509 was to change the topic of iLoveYou earlier? It amused me, and it only adds to my suspicion. Hopefully the actions will be sent in soon and Day 2 will hit.
Guys, back off beary a little, this is simply a repeat of game 2. Attacking her and putting her on tilt isn't going to help pin her role down.
I'm looking at the votelist
Now, look at this influx of votes in the final hour. I am confident that at least two out of those highlighted players are Mafia. Pretty sure Mafia aren't brave enough to throw in the final vote, or even the second last vote. However, the continuation of votes even after the threshold was reached shows that people simply aren't paying attention to the vote count. I assume we can use votes cast after the threshold as evidence, even if the votes technically didn't count.
With that in mind, we have Blu Rose, You and Jeremy who continued to throw votes in, on a very easy bandwagon to jump on. My list of names to look at are therefore
BellBringerGreen
Beary509
Tom
SirGanatar
Justin
Prin
Blu Rose
You
Jeremy
Yep, it's a big list, but we can trim it a little.
I'm going to remove Justin first, because he's an experienced player and is likely to be tracking the vote counts quite closely and won't want to put the second last nail in Dolby's coffin if he was scum. We also did discuss this before, so the idea to lynch Dolby was always on his mind.
Beary is already on everyone's s***list, she's the easiest frame of Mafia's life. Checking her is a waste.
Most of the people (plus Blu Rose) who voted before the threshold did post reasons (of varying strengths) for their votes, but You and Jeremy didn't explain their votes in the thread, and threw in their vote almost as an afterthought. Both players are new and have not been that invested in the game so far, so we really have no behavioural information to go on there. Keep in mind what I posted above though, regarding an easy wagon to hop on.
Tom posted no reason for his vote, later justifying it with Dolby's lack of defence.
Minor thing to note in Ganatar's lynch reason:
Anyway, tl;dr we should focus on that list of people and clear/condemn them asap, through checks, behavioural analysis and even vig shots on some of scummier-looking lurkers. I don't want a near-repeat of Game III where lynn and Horus were both chronically inactive scum and made it into the late game, leaving town with little information to judge them on.
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Also yes, I've been wasting my life away on Rust
I'm looking at the votelist
Now, look at this influx of votes in the final hour. I am confident that at least two out of those highlighted players are Mafia. Pretty sure Mafia aren't brave enough to throw in the final vote, or even the second last vote. However, the continuation of votes even after the threshold was reached shows that people simply aren't paying attention to the vote count. I assume we can use votes cast after the threshold as evidence, even if the votes technically didn't count.
With that in mind, we have Blu Rose, You and Jeremy who continued to throw votes in, on a very easy bandwagon to jump on. My list of names to look at are therefore
BellBringerGreen
Beary509
Tom
SirGanatar
Justin
Prin
Blu Rose
You
Jeremy
Yep, it's a big list, but we can trim it a little.
I'm going to remove Justin first, because he's an experienced player and is likely to be tracking the vote counts quite closely and won't want to put the second last nail in Dolby's coffin if he was scum. We also did discuss this before, so the idea to lynch Dolby was always on his mind.
Beary is already on everyone's s***list, she's the easiest frame of Mafia's life. Checking her is a waste.
Most of the people (plus Blu Rose) who voted before the threshold did post reasons (of varying strengths) for their votes, but You and Jeremy didn't explain their votes in the thread, and threw in their vote almost as an afterthought. Both players are new and have not been that invested in the game so far, so we really have no behavioural information to go on there. Keep in mind what I posted above though, regarding an easy wagon to hop on.
Tom posted no reason for his vote, later justifying it with Dolby's lack of defence.
Minor thing to note in Ganatar's lynch reason:
Many will know that I view a half-hearted vote with some suspicion.
Anyway, tl;dr we should focus on that list of people and clear/condemn them asap, through checks, behavioural analysis and even vig shots on some of scummier-looking lurkers. I don't want a near-repeat of Game III where lynn and Horus were both chronically inactive scum and made it into the late game, leaving town with little information to judge them on.
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Well let's objectively compare the setup in this game with the setup of game III. No elected roles, which really matters little. The core principles of not just trusting people remain intact, regardless of whether there's a Mayor or not. In this game, as with game III, there are a lot of disruptive roles. The lesson people should have taken away from game III is not that town needs a plan (there's no way to come up with a foolproof plan in such a setup), it's that town needs to get discussion going around a plan, and derive information from how people contribute and respond to such a plan. It's not the plan itself that is useful, it's the planning stage.
Also yes, I've been wasting my life away on Rust
Hey now, Tinaa and some of the others wanted you to vote as well. The way Gandalf worded it made it sound like voting was mandatory and those who don't get modkilled.
