Mafia TBT Mafia V: There and Back Again [Game Over/Town Win]

[Jeremy]

4 lynch candidates for day 2. awesome.
which is the best for us as town?
Prin
Blu
Beary
River

Can we get a pros and cons list going or something? Although SuperPenguin makes a good point saying we can just ignore the first 3 names. I down to lynch River tonight and save the other 3 for a Day 3 lynch.

There's 5 because people are voting for Justin. I haven't heard any good arguments for that yet though.

 

[Superpenguin]

Actually.

If you look back through posts we know both of Tom and Kaylas roles.
If Tom was mafia, wouldn't there be a blue bloodbath last night since he knows a lot of blue roles, which I believe due to him knowing who inspected Kayla last night.

You seem to be forgetting Kayla was shot at last night. Tom would have no reason to want to kill this Detective last night because he would've been under the impression that Kayla was dying anyway and thus a rolecheck of her would be useless since she'd be dead.

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There's 5 because people are voting for Justin. I haven't heard any good arguments for that yet though.

Six with Minties.

 

[Mary]

@ Jeremy
River posted about Justin being quickly dismissed by Karla.
However, I think that, as the seasoned veteran he is, he would be smarter and more clever than that.

 

[FanousOnTheLoose]

There's 5 because people are voting for Justin. I haven't heard any good arguments for that yet though.

Well I only considered the ones with a majority and the ones that are giving us the most trouble with indecisiveness. Still haven't heard a good argument for Justin.

Also anyone else notice that You randomly changed his vote to Justin without justification (pun intended)?

 

[Jeremy]

@ Jeremy
River posted about Justin being quickly dismissed by Karla.
However, I think that, as the seasoned veteran he is, he would be smarter and more clever than that.

My guess is Karla would dismiss half town and half mafia. Trying to keep one safe, but not put the entire group in the same pot.

 

[Mary]

Don't forget that he may be busy doing whatever mystical things Admins do. I would be quite interested in hearing his defense, though.

 

[Byngo]

We all keep calling those three distractions. That basically implies they are Town, so why do we want them dead. Instead of killing them, how about we ignore them?

Ahem, what? You were happy when Dolby died, and he was a distraction.

Anyways, as for all this River stuff, she was the person I was originally thinking about voting for before all this Blu Rose/Beary/Prin stuff exploded. If letting the vig deal with any of the three distractions is going to serve town better, I will change my vote for her, seeing as keeping her alive is a very risky situation for town.

All of the people in favor of keeping River fail to realize that it would be so easy for River to turn on us. Sure, she may say she will help us, but those are just words. And those words can easily be taken back, considering the SK is all by themselves. I just don't see it working out good. :x

 

[Justin]

I'm not busy, I've been posting in here a bunch in the past two hours. Already posted my reply to Kayla when she mentioned what Karla said. There's not much more for me to say in defense. I'm town, and if I was actually mafia like some think, I guarantee you Karla wouldn't give me away nearly that easy.

 

[Jeremy]

Don't forget that he may be busy doing whatever mystical things Admins do. I would be quite interested in hearing his defense, though.

He's busy playing Rust I'm sure. But I see no reason to vote for him right now. He has kept relatively quiet, which is keeping him safe I think.

 

[Superpenguin]

Ahem, what? You were happy when Dolby died, and he was a distraction.

I was happy Dolby died because he was the Bus Driver. I don't like the Bus Driver role as it can tamper with rolechecks, shots, and medic protections. Basically, it hurts the ability to trust each other.

 

[Jeremy]

If Justin was on Karla's team we know Karla would recognize him as his strongest teammate. The only thing I don't know is how Karla would deal with that fact. My guess is he wouldn't even mention his name. So I really don't think it's Justin right now.

 

[Mary]

Oh man, I just can't wait to see the Mafia chat when this ends.

 

[Trent the Paladin]

He's busy playing Rust I'm sure. But I see no reason to vote for him right now. He has kept relatively quiet, which is keeping him safe I think.

And staying quiet is also something he did a lot when he's mafia. He's probably pushing River so hard before he's afraid he'll be the next victim.

 

[Jeremy]

And staying quiet is also something he did a lot when he's mafia. He's probably pushing River so hard before he's afraid he'll be the next victim.

He should be afraid of her either way because he was the first person to vote for her.

 

[Justin]

He's probably pushing River so hard before he's afraid he'll be the next victim.

That's far from true. In fact, before I came in here and started to mention River again, the conversation was solely focused on Prin/Beary/Blu Rose. If I wanted to hide as you suggest, I could have easily throw in a vote for one of those three candidates, typed out some bull**** about why I was voting them and called it a day. But no, I threw myself into the fire willingly to get the SK lynched. Mafia wouldn't do that.

 

[Jeremy]

And staying quiet is also something he did a lot when he's mafia. He's probably pushing River so hard before he's afraid he'll be the next victim.

I don't think he is quieter than you are though.

 

[Mary]

I voted for Beary. May change.

 

[Beary]

I voted for Beary. May change.

Mary whyyyy D: </3

(Iknowperfectlywellwhydonthateme)

 

[Trent the Paladin]

I don't think he is quieter than you are though.

I don't ****post like half the day two posts have been.

 

[Trent the Paladin]

You seem to be forgetting Kayla was shot at last night. Tom would have no reason to want to kill this Detective last night because he would've been under the impression that Kayla was dying anyway and thus a rolecheck of her would be useless since she'd be dead.

No reason for me to be under that impression, Kayla pretty much told me that if I was mafia or a Vig or SK that I'd be wasting a hit on her. So that left two choices: She was either a Veteran, like we know now, or a DOCTOR. I had the detective confirm the role to find out and be safe.

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This is something I want to point out. It has been said over and over that if we keep the SK alive, than we will have control of her and decide what kills she sends to benefit us. But who is sending those orders? Most likely iLoveYou or Tom based on how things have played out . So I ask everyone in support of keeping River this: Do you trust iLoveYou and Tom? Do you believe that neither of them are Mafia who will steer River's kills to their advantage. Because if one of them is Mafia, then you are effectively giving the Mafia 1 extra KP using the SK. Keep that in mind.

Neither Kayla or I am mafia. River approached us because she knew that at some point during the game, someone was going to single her out. There's essentially no way to get through the game as serial killer without flying under the radar as much as possible, which sets a high bar for people like us. Strong players are always going to be looked at, Kayla, Jubs, Trundle, Superpenguin, Tinaa, Karla, River, oath2order, ProfGallows, Gandalf, Laurina all names I guarantee somebody is watching. Meanwhile we've got people like Hikari, theCreeperHugz, fireninja1, and SirGanatar just gliding by relatively unnoticed other than some jabs from the more actives.

I believe River is beneficial to us. She can't achieve her goal (especially because Kayla outed her), why not use her to achieve ours? If the mafia don't kill her, they'll block her. Effectively, she's a sponge that protects our blues like Kayla mentioned earlier. The mafia aren't going to kill our distractions and our vigs aren't that likely to either.