Mafia TBT Mini Mafia X: And Then There Were None (Game Over/Mafia Win)

[Sataric]

If all possible roles are public, does that mean that there could NOT be something like an Amnesiac, which can select between the other listed roles and remember that they are "just like them" for instance? That is something I was a bit suspicious about.

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I am also confused about the following bit, from the OP:

What makes this game unique is its small size and its especially small mafia team of two. Because of its size, I expect everyone to post a lot and I cannot allow people to sign up if they have a history of not posting in past games. I will be quicker to modkill or replace players if they are not posting. It is absolutely crucial to post in this game and I cannot tolerate inactivity. Even though PMs are allowed, please share information in the thread as much as possible to add to the public discussion.

Another unique facet of this game is that mafia will have town roles in addition to their mafia roles. And Then There Were None is about finding a killer among fellow guests on the island. Likewise, you will have to find mafia among fellow townies. The mafia team will receive actual green or blue roles, not just fake town claims. William Blore will see both roles, except when inspecting the godfather.

So the DT would get a read that would say perhaps "Richard Johnson (Townie)" AND "Mike Hunt (Mafia Goon)" on the same target?

Or could it be that some of the characters are actually played by TWO people unknowingly, one which is town and the other which is a sinister killer? That would be quite the unexpected twist..

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... Maybe I am not making any sense here, and I am sorry for dragging this out, but what I am saying is that Jeremy might have tried to do something very unique, and that two different people have been given the exact same character but with two different agendas. I shall attempt to make an example that actually makes sense:

Let's say that William Blore (Detective) is given to Mewmewmewm.
Then perhaps SuperPenguin is also given William Blore as his character, but he's actually William Blore (The Host, Mr Owen).
So perhaps they are the same person, but they wouldn't know about it. Think of it as schizophrenia. If one of them dies, then perhaps they both will die automatically, since they're technically the same person?

... I might be grasping at straws here, but it might add up. In the story in the OP, it's explained how all the characters are capable of murder in some shape or form and maybe that's the idea - That we could all be the murderer and we wouldn't even know.

 

[Jeremy]

The roles are either used once, more than once, or not at all. There are no roles that have not been listed in the OP.

If a godfather is inspected, the detective will only see their townie role.
If a mafia goon is inspected, the detective will see both mafia and townie role.

 

[Superpenguin]

Mkay. I just thought it'd be weird to have like double Mr. Rogers or stuff, but it's not like you can really add extra characters to an actual book/movie.

So um, any guilty report or protections? I don't know if Mafia only have 1 KP or not, but I would've thought they had more.

 

[NikkiNikki]

I think both mafia members can send a KP?

 

[CookingOkasan]

Both mafia members are able to send a KP. the OP stated so.

Sorry I haven't actually posted yet. It's a little unlike me, but I've just been out and about the past two days irl. RIP Lauren :'l

I'm not sure if Sataric's post is distraction, or just a question to clear up the somewhat confusing nature of the mafia having double roles.

should we pull a bird mafia and mass claim to a confirmed townie, then? ha ha

I just felt dirty after doing it in Bird mafia. It cut the game way too short. It feels nice winning, but I feel like that just wasn't the way to go about it earning the W.

 

[Feloreena]

I think both mafia members can send a KP?

It says they are both able to send in KP, but not how much they have. If no one has been notified that they were protected, we can probably assume they have 1 total due to Lauren's death. Just have to wait and see until everyone 'checks in' for the day.

 

[Sataric]

The roles are either used once, more than once, or not at all. There are no roles that have not been listed in the OP.

If a godfather is inspected, the detective will only see their townie role.
If a mafia goon is inspected, the detective will see both mafia and townie role.

~@ CookingOkasan - How is my post a distraction, exactly? Sure, my thoughts in there might've been a bit jumbled up but Jeremy stepped in and provided a very clear-cut and straight-forward answer, and it provides us with a better understanding of what we're dealing with here. Specifically this part:

The roles are either used once, more than once, or not at all. There are no roles that have not been listed in the OP.

So we know that every role is in the game, and that there are no hidden roles. Furthermore, if we do the math, we know that some roles must have been used more than once. There is 12 roles (all with a named character..) but 16 players. Therefore, there is more to this game than first meets the eye. The fact that you try to divert from that fact makes you seem incredibly scummy to me.

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Meh - Did not mean to quote Jeremy twice. My bad.

 

[Mewmewmewm]

I just feel like we have no leads besides the chance of people having two roles and the godfather shaking everything up. Anyone got any evidence or suspicious activity? Because at the moment i'm pretty lost.

 

[NikkiNikki]

There is pretty much not enough evidences at the moment. all we can do is wait until something pops up.

 

[Sataric]

There is pretty much not enough evidences at the moment. all we can do is wait until something pops up.

Nothing new is going to randomly pop up during the day phase unless we keep talking, though - We have to decide if we're going to lynch someone today or if we'd rather decide to settle for a No Lynch. With so many towns to so few Mafia, the No Lynch option might not be a terrible idea - However, certain players have yet to make a single post. I don't think Professor Gallows have spoken since the game started, for instance.

 

[NikkiNikki]

Nothing new is going to randomly pop up during the day phase unless we keep talking, though - We have to decide if we're going to lynch someone today or if we'd rather decide to settle for a No Lynch. With so many towns to so few Mafia, the No Lynch option might not be a terrible idea - However, certain players have yet to make a single post. I don't think Professor Gallows have spoken since the game started, for instance.

That is quite true, however I think a no lynch can be a terrible idea because the mafia can kill another town.

 

[CookingOkasan]

@Sataric, I only said it was distracting because it was hard to read. but before Jer's response I was equally confused. No big deal!

 

[f11]

So, basically we are going to do a no lynch or wait to find evidence or lynch an inactive/ a person who hasn't really talked much.

 

[MrPicklez]

Sorry, I haven't posted yet today. I'm just now getting out of bed.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who realized that there was only 12 roles and 16 players. I didn't even really notice it until I was laying in bed and was looking at the OP for some kind of clue to help us with the Lauren situation.

Have we found any clues or are we just gonna take a shot in the dark and lynch a random townie? A no lynch would be a stupid idea since this game is so small.

 

[Mewmewmewm]

Just a heads up, i'm going over to my grandmothers house now so i'm probably not going to be on until later tonight, around 8ish. Right now i'm kinda in favor of a no lynch considering i don't want to kill a townie. However if someone finds any evidence it might be very helpful at this point. I don't really want to waste our lynch on someone who has been very inactive either because they might just get modkilled.

 

[Sataric]

Hmm.. Well, we're getting nowhere by being this quiet. I believe there is only about six hours left (correct me if I am mistaken) of Day 1 now and thus we need to decide whom to vote for very soon. It takes eight votes to reach majority. So far not a single vote has been cast. It's time to start making some progress.

Either we vote No Lynch, since the risk of hitting town is large - But that will also not get us anywhere, really. Only one of the Mafia roles can be found by the detective in the end. We need to analyze how people behave first and foremost. We could also all say whom we personally found to be the most suspicious, and if a lot of us names the same person, we might consider that a good sign that it'd be worth to gamble on. The third option is to vote for Professor Gallows for being the most inactive player in the game.

I have only about an hour or two more before I must go to sleep, so if no further discussion has been made by then, I'll simply have to go with my gut feeling and cast my vote somewhat randomly. The clock is ticking - Let's try to get this game moving forward.

 

[Alice]

I just feel like we have no leads besides the chance of people having two roles and the godfather shaking everything up. Anyone got any evidence or suspicious activity? Because at the moment i'm pretty lost.

i think you should answer ashtot's question. Were you claiming detective?

 

[NikkiNikki]

In the end Professor Gallows will be mod kill for inactivity. Aren't there other inactive players?

 

[Sataric]

In the end Professor Gallows will be mod kill for inactivity. Aren't there other inactive players?

Mod killed or replaced. As for any other inactive players, it's at least safe to say that many of the usually quite talkative players are currently keeping a very low profile which is very different from how they normally act on Day 1. SuperPenguin is normally holding a lengthy speech about potatoes by now, Cory is ten times more silent than he normally is, and Oath2Order has not even lost his temper yet. Something seems a little out of balance somehow.

 

[NikkiNikki]

Well I don't know much of these players but it has been quiet and seeing the list of players I though there would be more discussions.