Mafia The Battle of the Nobles- Endgame

[Dolby]

Evan/Toads would make so much ****ing sense in a scum!Punchy world

 

[EpicGamer12]

I just reread the entire thread trying to comprehend what's going on a little more because I do actually feel a lot less progressive (?) and interested than normal. All that I've discovered is that there isn't actually real content here. Like half of every "red flag" has been META based and I know someone mentioned that already in the thread but I know from personal experience that META never works when it's just used alone. So realizing that I actually started seeing things a bit more clearly (IMO)


So these are my day one thoughts so far







This interaction is kinda telling for me personally and I know its gonna look bad but I actually really sense Bianca town because of it. In most of the games I've played advocating self Lynch literally never ends well in that person's favor and I feel like Bianca would know that. Clearly "sure why not" isn't as serious as a giving up sort of "Lynch me" but Bianca's intention with this post was carefree enough to not worry about actually getting called out for it ( I hope that translated well ).

Most subsequent reads on Bianca beyond that have been META reading on her attacking her tone. My memory is extremely horrible so I can't even add to her meta because I truthfully don't know her normal play style. I guess what I'm trying to say is it feels like META reading is driving so much of the content here. Its annoying, and I can feel her frustration


The above goes with a lot of people, So far I think ive seen some sort of meta analysis to help form thoughts on Bianca, Antonio, Trundle, mog, Ness, punchy just to name a few (I know I found some of those ppl sus, but it's because of other reasons, not just meta). It's all too prominent, and I think thats whats turning me off



AND THAT BRINGS ME to my next idea after realizing that, Antonio's scummyness (from how I defined it a while ago) has been dismissed because that's generally how he plays, and I decided to just kinda drop it because a lot of people were repeating that same notion. I think dismissing his very first few posts is a mistake. It's early in the game so I definitely am weary and am susing like way more than 4, but I think its better to question than to town read someone for the benefit of the doubt. Regardless if people sometimes dont know who's on the playerlist, thats not something to look over just because.

I read a LOT about Trundle and Ness. In response to some people thinking they were fake almost, Ness's posts looked genuine to me for some reason. Trundle not so much, but he's been nailing into our heads this isn't his normal gameplay so whatever. No way they're maf together

I feel like Chele is the most town because from what I've seen they're pushing with some good in game evidence, not a lot of meta which is the easy route in this game right now

Here's where I am

Chele
Ness
Bianca
Antonio
Mog
Unravel
Trundle

I don't really have thoughts on anyone else

Jacob's list from last night. Note the Chele, Ness, and Bianca town leans. I think there is a good chance one of those three is mafia.

 

[unravel]

Umm... how about everybody else. Why only Punchy?s voters?
Anyways Heyden, Dolby and I voted for Punchy

Last time I check was Evan and him selfvoting

 

[Dolby]

Also, Antonio def looks good as well. Jacob's first post was calling out Antonio for his RQS. No way scum!Jacob does that

 

[Biancasbotique]

I would have done my best to sway Jacob off the lynch by being overall scummy

 

[amazonevan19]

Bianca is the easiest out if your entire team goes for a suicidal push to lynch a town member

But the Bianca wagon made Punchy survive over Jacob. Jacob not voting Punchy as well. Both indicate Punchy could be a mafia PR and I urge vig to shoot them tonight

Well we have a lot more wiggle room given a goon just died, as this logic kind of makes sense. It all depends on what Bianca and Punchy really are.

If Jacob/Punchy/Bianca are all scumbuddies then the EoD behavior actually can be decoded rather simply. However I can also see it as town Punchy trying desperately to get a counterwagon going on someone he actually felt was scummier than Jacob

 

[N e s s]

Actually I think I'm remembering this thing between Jacob and Punchy wrongly because looking at the ISO's now they didn't really do anything together... thought they talked a bit more than that

I rescind my previous statement, but Punchy did switch to Jacob several times and was begging Vanessa to hammer him at several points.

 

[Chele]

It hurts, but I guess Punchy is sorta not scum? Unless Punchy knew that Jacob was going to maj and was like “why not jump on the train”. Well rip, I don’t know what to say now

 

[cornimer]

Jacob/Rune/Bianca/idk who else

I know Rune voted for Jacob but since Jacob was a goon maybe she was trying to make herself look good

She left right at EoD and she's always present at EoD and that's so sketch

 

[Dolby]

Actually I think I'm remembering this thing between Jacob and Punchy wrongly because looking at the ISO's now they didn't really do anything together... thought they talked a bit more than that

I rescind my previous statement, but Punchy did switch to Jacob several times and was begging Vanessa to hammer him at several points.

Again

AtE

And I want Punchy dead by vig anyway

 

[N e s s]

Again

AtE

And I want Punchy dead by vig anyway

I know I'm flip flopping a lot right now but I'm not opposed to Punchy getting shot tonight

 

[cornimer]

I'm having a minor anxiety attack so I'm going to bed but I'm really glad we got scum and thanks for sticking with me it was a honour to be your queen

 

[amazonevan19]

I'm having a minor anxiety attack so I'm going to bed but I'm really glad we got scum and thanks for sticking with me it was a honour to be your queen

Sleep well, sweet queen. Good job.

Vig shoot either me or Punchy tonight. That'll clear up a lot. You have nothing to lose either way seeing as punchy's claiming townie and I'm well...a townie too.

 

[Dolby]

It hurts, but I guess Punchy is sorta not scum? Unless Punchy knew that Jacob was going to maj and was like “why not jump on the train”. Well rip, I don’t know what to say now

Or (once a freaking gan). Punchy pushed Jacob because he knew that Jacob was the only way to get the lynch off of himself. Punchy is a mafia PR (which I've been theorizing) which is why he wants to stay alive over Jacob. He pushes the Bianca wagon because Bianca is town and the people flipping onto her are generally the people who were on him, thus dooming goon Jacob to save roleblocker/godfather/strongarm Punchy

Moreover, Jacob ACTIVELY PUSHED BACK against voting Punchy, and criticized me for suggesting he do

DO NOT CLEAR PUNCHY DONT EVEN TOWNLEAN PUNCHY

 

[toadsworthy]

I want my computer because I want to read on Jacobs posts. His last few posts were pretty bad though, I highly doubt punchy is town still.... think Bianca’s scum, nothing of that makes me think she is town.

Evan is being too hyper aware right out the gate and I think he and ness look worst after that lynch. I’m really confused by mog at this point. Vanessa did kill jacob, but she was kinda roped into it had no other choice so i dont really think she is clear for anything. If anything it seemed like the niceness in vanessa didn’t want to kill jacob/ her scummate. Agreed we don’t lynch her day 2 but boy howdy if you lock her into a PoE because of just killing him I will find you and I will cut you

 

[Dolby]

I know I'm flip flopping a lot right now but I'm not opposed to Punchy getting shot tonight

In my eyes your more than fine

 

[PunchyTheCat]

vig don't shoot me. you are being influenced by mafia

 

[mogyay]

i'm also going to bed bc i have to be up in 2 hours lol, sry for messing up at the end there but good job everyone! just so everyone knows i won't be around until end of night bc i have a v long shift and then a v long nap

 

[Biancasbotique]

Bianca is the easiest out if your entire team goes for a suicidal push to lynch a town member

But the Bianca wagon made Punchy survive over Jacob. Jacob not voting Punchy as well. Both indicate Punchy could be a mafia PR and I urge vig to shoot them tonight

You know what I am thinking about that. Jacob/Punchy is still a possibility as a case of a sacrifice over a bigger fish, say a godfather role?

 

[Dolby]

vig don't shoot me. you are being influenced by mafia

Lmao

@Evan

Why did you decide to vote for Jacob over Punchy when you stated earlier that you thought that the wagon was bleh?