Mafia The Battle of the Nobles- Endgame

[Antonio]

Because I won't??

But you did flip. Shouldn't we do the opposite of what you said in case you are trying to mislead town?

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Anyways, I am going to bed as today was the first day of spring semester and I have been in and out of the game throughout the day so I apologize if I haven't been as active. All i have been doing is providing statements here and there. I'll probably be more active tommorow and provide some reads.

Good night, everyone!

 

[Dolby]

You know what I am thinking about that. Jacob/Punchy is still a possibility as a case of a sacrifice over a bigger fish, say a godfather role?

Yep! thats what I'm saying

 

[amazonevan19]

I want my computer because I want to read on Jacobs posts. His last few posts were pretty bad though, I highly doubt punchy is town still.... think Bianca’s scum, nothing of that makes me think she is town.

Evan is being too hyper aware right out the gate and I think he and ness look worst after that lynch. I’m really confused by mog at this point. Vanessa did kill jacob, but she was kinda roped into it had no other choice so i dont really think she is clear for anything. If anything it seemed like the niceness in vanessa didn’t want to kill jacob/ her scummate. Agreed we don’t lynch her day 2 but boy howdy if you lock her into a PoE because of just killing him I will find you and I will cut you

I know just how bad this makes me look and am fine accepting the consequences for that, given my vote was effectually meaningless. If I die so the Evan question is resolved, so be it.

This also looks like hardcore WIFOM too so idgaf, just shoot me or Punchy and be done with it, vig

Also Vanessa isn't confirmed by any stretch but def looks better after that lynch

 

[unravel]

ok so Dolby/Ness/Bianca

I would really understand Dolby because of seitching incident may I ask how possible Ness and Bianca connected to Jacob? Like is it most likely they're team together?

Because Dolby knows that I am more than willing to be killed for the sake of the team. thats true

Dont you dare, you are basically playing against your win con in short you are throwing the game, do your best pls?

 

[amazonevan19]

Lmao

@Evan

Why did you decide to vote for Jacob over Punchy when you stated earlier that you thought that the wagon was bleh?

I didn't like the wagon or the reasoning for killing Jacob, but Jacob was no townie in my view. He was in my big fat nulls list and since it was between him and Punchy, I was fine with either dying just for information's sake, even though I'd have preferred punchy. I also started having big doubts about punchy after he switched to going for a CFD of Bianca, but given that this could just be mafs sacrificing a goon for their "greater good," Punchy is a perfect candidate for vig shot or D2 lynch to me imo.

 

[Dolby]

Temptations looks good if Punchy is town, but I'm gonna take him away from my good pile if Punchy flips as a mafia PR

 

[Heyden]

Vig should shoot Punchy to save us from 48 hours of ping pong discussion. If we can determine Punchy's alignment, it'll be easier to analyse these votes.

Regardless I think Waffles is town from that voting period.

 

[Chele]

Or (once a freaking gan). Punchy pushed Jacob because he knew that Jacob was the only way to get the lynch off of himself. Punchy is a mafia PR (which I've been theorizing) which is why he wants to stay alive over Jacob. He pushes the Bianca wagon because Bianca is town and the people flipping onto her are generally the people who were on him, thus dooming goon Jacob to save roleblocker/godfather/strongarm Punchy

Moreover, Jacob ACTIVELY PUSHED BACK against voting Punchy, and criticized me for suggesting he do

DO NOT CLEAR PUNCHY DONT EVEN TOWNLEAN PUNCHY

Well how come when Jacob didn’t even maj, Punchy voted for him? The votes were like 5 for Punchy and 4 for Jacob, but then Punchy moved his vote to Jacob. Why didn’t they overall go to a lynch on somebody else, and why was Punchy voting himself?

 

[toadsworthy]

Reading my last post I worded it weird, I def still think punchy is town.... mobile

 

[Biancasbotique]

I would really understand Dolby because of seitching incident may I ask how possible Ness and Bianca connected to Jacob? Like is it most likely they're team together?



Dont you dare, you are basically playing against your win con in short you are throwing the game, do your best pls?

It's in context waffles, when I was mafia with Dolby, I went out of my way to be voted so people will lay off Dolby who's the godfather

 

[PunchyTheCat]

I would really understand Dolby because of seitching incident may I ask how possible Ness and Bianca connected to Jacob? Like is it most likely they're team together?



Dont you dare, you are basically playing against your win con in short you are throwing the game, do your best pls?

@unravel Dolby encouraging vig to shoot at me is susp, ness tried to get off jacob last second and Bianca didn't get on me or Jacob, trying to frame us if she died

 

[unravel]

Actually its hardly possible mog/punchy team up just because they're both close outside game doesn't really mean they're both scumbuddies

Also I really don't think Vanessa would sacrifice her scummate to make herself look good you're basically selling them out and kind of against the scum's win con why some of you guys slowly suspecting her? Unless I read it really wrongly

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AtE killed my reads...

 

[Dolby]

Well how come when Jacob didn’t even maj, Punchy voted for him? The votes were like 5 for Punchy and 4 for Jacob, but then Punchy moved his vote to Jacob. Why didn’t they overall go to a lynch on somebody else, and why was Punchy voting himself?

Punchy moved his vote to Jacob at that point because, since Jacob was just a goon, Punchy's survival was more important as some mafia PR. That's also why Jacob didn't vote Punchy despite it being in his interests, because Punchy's survival is more important. At this point, Punchy and Jacob had significantly more votes than any other wagon, thus, they were forced to bus

Punchy voted himself as a means of AtE

While we're here to, let's be real, the mafia don't blockvote, ESPECIALLy in kingmaker because there's a chance that King will just vote somebody else because the block is just that scummy. Punchy and Jacob were each trying for other lynches, the CfD on Bianca, Jacob's stubborn vote on Trundle, but they didn't pan out

I ask you then, why doesn't Jacob vote Punchy?

 

[amazonevan19]

Wait a ****ing minute

Rune voted Jacob at 5:26 pm, right after Chele gave us this tally

Unofficial Vote Count - Stolen From Vanessa for the third time

Bianca - 1
Heyden
Punchy
Toads

Punchy - 6
Heyden
Evan
Dolby
Chele
Punchy
Vanessa (unofficial)

Vanessa - 0
Trundle

Trundle - 2
Jacob
Mog

Jacbob - 2
Dolby
Trundle
Waffles

Tae - 1
Bianca

With 6 votes, Punchy is currently set to be lynched

Goddammit can't quote it directly because the thread is locked but I just copypasted it, excuse the lack of formatting.

Punchy was clearly in the lead, was widely the most sussed, and was the most likely to die at that point.

What scumbuddy of either Jacob OR Punchy's is going to just park their vote on the goon? It makes sense if Punchy is godfather, rune is some other scum PR, and Jacob, the goon, is about to die so Rune just goes along with everyone else. BUT the snag is that Jacob was nowhere near dead. Did Rune predict Jacob's demise?

We need to hear from her soon because while I think she looks sus, I am having a hard time reconciling scum!rune just straight up abandoning the thread and parking a vote on a scummate, unless she reasoned that Jacob was more likely to die than Punchy/was attempting to save Punchy. If that was the case then why didn't she say anything in Punchy's favor leading up to EoD? Why wasn't rune ANYWHERE to be seen EoD?

 

[Biancasbotique]

Actually its hardly possible mog/punchy team up just because they're both close outside game doesn't really mean they're both scumbuddies

Also I really don't think Vanessa would sacrifice her scummate to make herself look good you're basically selling them out and kind of against the scum's win con why some of you guys slowly suspecting her? Unless I read it really wrongly

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AtE killed my reads...

you know what.. i didn't even think of it like that from that angle but now that you're telling me...hmmm

 

[EpicGamer12]

Well how come when Jacob didn’t even maj, Punchy voted for him? The votes were like 5 for Punchy and 4 for Jacob, but then Punchy moved his vote to Jacob. Why didn’t they overall go to a lynch on somebody else, and why was Punchy voting himself?

Both Punchy and Jacob switching to another person would have looked incredibly bad on both of them.

 

[Dolby]

Reading my last post I worded it weird, I def still think punchy is town.... mobile

And I def think that you're scum with Punchy

If we are locking in punchy v jacob I vote jacob

Like, this is screaming exactly what you did two years ago in SU2 and I still kick myself for how I let maf walk over me to this day

Vig, kill Punchy, even if you think he's town. His flip will be far more revealing of any other, because, at least in my eyes, him flipping town rather than mafia would change my reads on like 5 people

 

[amazonevan19]

Actually its hardly possible mog/punchy team up just because they're both close outside game doesn't really mean they're both scumbuddies

Also I really don't think Vanessa would sacrifice her scummate to make herself look good you're basically selling them out and kind of against the scum's win con why some of you guys slowly suspecting her? Unless I read it really wrongly

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AtE killed my reads...

At least for me, I'm just entertaining it as a possibility, but it's also super unlikely and nothing is really indicating to me that Vanessa should be considered a potential scum

 

[Dolby]

Wait a ****ing minute

Rune voted Jacob at 5:26 pm, right after Chele gave us this tally



Goddammit can't quote it directly because the thread is locked but I just copypasted it, excuse the lack of formatting.

Punchy was clearly in the lead, was widely the most sussed, and was the most likely to die at that point.

What scumbuddy of either Jacob OR Punchy's is going to just park their vote on the goon? It makes sense if Punchy is godfather, rune is some other scum PR, and Jacob, the goon, is about to die so Rune just goes along with everyone else. BUT the snag is that Jacob was nowhere near dead. Did Rune predict Jacob's demise?

We need to hear from her soon because while I think she looks sus, I am having a hard time reconciling scum!rune just straight up abandoning the thread and parking a vote on a scummate, unless she reasoned that Jacob was more likely to die than Punchy/was attempting to save Punchy. If that was the case then why didn't she say anything in Punchy's favor leading up to EoD? Why wasn't rune ANYWHERE to be seen EoD?

That does not look sus in any way, in fact I think that looks kinda good. If you think that one scum is going to die, does Rune's first thought be "I'm gonna vote the other, sinking the vote between my two buddies and NOT get towncred"

I'm not sure the timeline of Rune logging off but the logic, as presented here is flawed

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Rune wasn't on at EoD because they were afk

I think that it's truly that simple

 

[PunchyTheCat]

Mmm

Just reread

Vig kill me, it is beneficial for town because it gives town more information. D2 please kill Bianca

Either of Ness or Dolby, probably ness can be swapped out for toads on my scum lists.