I make this world assuming Punchy is scum. There's a few constants between worlds (many based on Jacob's behavior and player's behavior towards Jacob), but this is the world I feel I live in
Easy maf/maf interaction btw
Townlocks
To be clear, these are 99%, not 100%, town
Unravel-Need I even say more. Was the first to call out Jacob in post #439, who purposely called out mog and Waffles interactions as having "strange energy" (which I disagree with so much). Jacob continued this by putting Unravel as his second preferred lynch, behind only Trundle, and continued with his faulty mog/unravel/Trundle axis that frankly made no sense. She continued this in #454, detailing Jacob as her preferred lynch. Unravel proceeded to be the third vote on Jacob, tying him with Punchy
Trundle-There's a reason that Trundle isn't first. I think that his content has been nothing but town since mid-D1, but he's a known busser and I have to take that into account. What stands out though is Jacob's treatment of Trundle. Jacob voted Trundle pretty much because Trundle was going after him, and labeled him as his top sus with Unravel. In addition, Trundle followed me on Jacob once I presented it as a viable option. I personally think this is town. Also, Jacob REFUSED to get off of Trundle when presented with Punchy, yet another reason I distrust that slot
Townleans
Antonio-This is entirely based on Jacob's behavior towards Antonio because Antonio on his own does not look imo, and I'm gonna put effort into it because I feel like mafia is capable of making this slot lynchable in the coming days.
This is the first red flag I've noticed so far. I understand not reading opening posts before diving into the thread because the game just started and it's exciting, but why not check the main post if the question requires you to know the player list, and he explicitly acknowledged the need to read the post to know the amount of mafia. basically dodge this question purposefully
Also, dolby's name was mentioned in a post or two before the rqs were even posted, so I kinda doubt he didn't know dolby was in the game
Jacob's first post of the game is FOSing Antonio. Interesting to note, and I don't take Jacob as the type to do that to fellow scum even if that's easily pushoffable
Jacob eventually took Antonio down to null/sus, but Antonio, while he did vote Trundle, significantly pushed the idea that Jacob scumslipped, which is primarily why I townleaned him
"discounting myself" are you saying you are scum?
"Statistically, one mafia is in here, discounting myself"
You are saying that one mafia "is in here", not including yourself. It feels likes you are saying that mafia is in here but not including yourself like you are another mafia member.
It's just phrased weirdly and it's messing with my head. .-.
That seems bias in favor of punchy. I really don't think punchy is scum, he's just crackling under presssure. He did what I did last game when he kept coming after me, giving up and telling everyone to vote for himself.
While I don't like that Antonio didn't change his vote from Trundle, I personally see this as him being disconnected from the scum team. He didnt switch to Bianca (which I view as scum motivated). I don't like stuff like "Punchy feels town" but I can more than live with that, as after voting Trundle, he took part in no organized effort to change the vote
Mogyay-Partly driven by Jacob but also my own mistrust of Punchy. Was included in Jacob's scum axis but noted as having "the towniest vibes", but being included in Jacob's TRs is more than enough to TR her. If Punchy is scum I TR her harder for wanting to switch her vote to Punchy at the end, nor do I see Punchy townlocking a teammate
jacob's been going after me and waffles and trundle before we had even posted in the game lmao and i'm not meant to find it strange that his opinion hasn't changed one bit since his initial post, why are you so determined we're all scum?
there's something up with that, it's strange
Feels attacked by Jacob, feels town
Bianca-This becomes a townlock should Punchy flips scum, but the fact that she was the cfd also makes me townread her. I don't like much of her, but I feel she's being attacked because she's low hanging fruit by Toads and Punchy, as well as others who didn't want the two options to be Punchy and Jacob. Not really much besides that
Heyden-Was the first to promote the idea of Punchy being scum, make a case on him, and vote for him. This shifts MASSIVELY should Punchy be town
Chele-Liked her going after Punchy midday, and probably was an important proponent for Punchy being scum. Last of my serious TLs
Vanessa-Gonna casually give Vanessa towncred for voting Jacob. Not solid in any way. If Punchy and Bianca are town, she goes up, but there isn't much that differentiates this from null
Null
Ness-I want to be able to TL Ness based off his tone alone, but I seriously can't. He's done nothing that I feel is warrenting of a townlean
Rune-Yeah
Tae-I REMEMBER NOTHING
Evan-I'm being REALLY generous here. Your lucky you don't get straight SLed
Scum
Toads-I had a townread on him for awhile, but his behavior has forced me to cast this aside. His behavior is a large part of why I began to see Jacob and Punchy as a team. His EoD is horrendous, trying to break through the two wagons, "preferred" to vote for the goon when it frankly came down to it. Half of his posts are fluff from him being drunk
Why do two people, unravel and trundle, have Jacob as their biggest scum read? I don't see anything yet
Made a point to point out that Jacob wasn't sus in light of pressure arising on him
The most confusing thing I've read unravel's play
Why pick out Jacob from this and defend mog, what made you believe her over Jacob. Lots of people do the "I think one of these three people could be scum" thing. Mog comes off genuine no matter what, I want to ISO her and Jacob next from last night, but I just thought it was weird you picked mog's side for a seemingly bias reason.
Then you defend trundle who has been probably the most abrasive, albeit for a reason though. Like I want more on these reads because I have no idea why you Town read mog and trundle while thinking at the same time Jacob is scum
- - - Post Merge - - -
Yeah I just don't know why everyone is scum reading jacob... but let me find these posts by Heyden and you, I just found unravel's
Defending Jacob
Notably Toads also Townread Punchy in his reads post
I'm voting bianca now because between her and Trundle's AtE (which why are we AtE-ing on day 1) hers looks more inducive to scum alignment than trundles which is just out of left field.
Voted Bianca, another reason why I think Bianca is town
Punchy does this same shot every game.... idk why were suddenly now lynching him for it. Honestly I think it?s because trundle and mog are just not familiar with him. When punchy started mafia he was like this and got really defensive and this badly erratic however you wanna put it. Lately he has been better because the typical players were used to it.... I don?t think he is very town helpful throwing out ideas every time but still. That?s just punchy
Oh boy
No he doesn't
Punchy doesn't declare that somebody is town and scum
Punchy doesn't break down THAT easily
Punchy doesn't break out of depression the moment that it's possible to save his sorry ass
Punchy ain't town
I feel better about jacob lynch than punchy
I feel the best about bianca though. Let?s vote for her
#organictownwagon
Honestly though if we have jacob vs punchy I have more to believe punchy is town over jacob is not scum. So I?d vote for him to save punchy
But punchy needs to shape the **** up
You'd vote to save your PR over your goon. I'm getting flashbacks to SU2
Dolby does that now and gets away with it, jacob does it early game to get the ball rollig and he is scumlocked down the line
Complaining about the unfairness of his teammate Jacob getting, in his eyes, unfairly SLed. He's whining that his teammate is getting caught
HE THEN PROCEEDS TO USE THE JACOB LYNCH TO READ PUNCHY TOWN
WHAT
HOW ARE JACOB AND PUNCHY INCOMPATIBLE
JACOB DIDNT EVEN VOTE PUNCHY
PUNCHY TRIED TO WIGGLE OUT OF THAT VOTE AS MUCH AS HE COULD
THIS AINT YOUR VINDICATION
Punchy-If you think this slot is town I will personally beat him being scum into your head (unless you're Toads, his partner). Not only did Jacob not vote it, and it end up being a wagon for those who would rather not see a PR dead, Jacob played weakly at EoD, guarenteeing that he would be lynched in Punchy's place. This is blatant s/s. Vig (or vigs) NEEDS to shoot
