amazonevan19
DLELELEWOOOOP
I already explained why I said that here
But if you wanna vote me, go right ahead
**** now I'm being arrogant, but am I still arrogant if I'm self-aware about it? :thinking:
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I already explained why I said that here
But if you wanna vote me, go right ahead
**** now I'm being arrogant, but am I still arrogant if I'm self-aware about it? :thinking:
amazonevan19
DLELELEWOOOOP
Aron claimed townie before Evan said "i hate losing a townie". With that, I think I am correct about me saying its a slip.
Yeah, because you would have no way that he knew that he was a townie specifically before than, but I messed up and used the wrong post. I think it was 2:05 or about then
amazonevan19
DLELELEWOOOOP
going to dinner, I should be back in plenty of time before EoD but if you kill me in the meantime I'mma be hella pissed 
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and yeah, I have no clue who aron is, I can see why you all would think it's a slip but I've already explained my thought process, and if you want to lynch me over that then :shrug:
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and yeah, I have no clue who aron is, I can see why you all would think it's a slip but I've already explained my thought process, and if you want to lynch me over that then :shrug:
Reasoning why Amazonevan is scum by Ness:
Okay, to start there is this post.
I have issues with the sentences in bold. For the first one, I feel as if he was attempting to twist Aron's words over a petty reason. For the second bold, he says that there could be a Dad/Dolby scumteam. I have a LOT of problems with him saying the last bold, because since Evan should be atleast somewhat familiar with host balancing the two of them together on a team would be absolute hell for town according to the current meta.
Before this post Evan also said that Dad/Dolby were a possible scum team but I don't think those posts are very notable enough to warrent me talking about them. Evan has said that he is "pointing out the Dolby/Dad scum team" as a possibility to note, but the fact that he is using 2 of the godfathers (ugh, i still cringe calling experienced players "the godfathers") as a potential scum team doesn't sit well with me.
In this post he says his top scumleans are bianca/aron, and he seemingly hasn't said anything regarding Bianca up until this point in the game. I'm fine with him saying that he is suspicious of Bianca, but he hasn't said any reasoning about WHY bianca is scum until this point. He has mentioned her briefly from what I've seen, but doesn't do anything to give a good case for it. There is this post:
but he doesn't mention it at all afterwards. He tried to start a suspicion of Bianca in this post for yet ANOTHER petty reason that is very clearly a joke (Bianca claiming as Epona, which I personally would see as scummy if it happened around possibly mid d1, but this is just ridiculous.).
And then there is his "reads" post, which I have issues with as well.
Okay. I have many issues with his Kit scumlean. Kit LITERALLY made 1 post saying "Evan is scum; Done!" and he is saying that Kit is scum for that. Now, I still think that Kit is scum with Evan, but the way Evan just shoehorned Kit in his scumleans is scummy af. I see this as distancing and bussing from one of his scum mates, because his reasoning for scumleaning Kit is so incredibly weak considering the fact that he actually put bianca (someone who he tried to say was suspicious for a weak reason as well) is less scummy then someone who made a 1-liner post regarding him being scum.
Dislike his townlean and null on Dad/Dolby as well considering he tried to say he was suspicious of him early in the game.
I have 2 problems with this post:
1. This might be a slip from Evan. A perspective slip if you will. Mafia know who eachother are, but Evan just said here "he hates losing a townie. Implying that he KNOWS that Aron really is a townie.
2. I feel like this is also evan trying to be neutral on Aron in the event he was actually lynched. Say Aron is lynched, then afterwards Evan says "Aw shucks i had a feeling he was telling the truth :sadface:".
I'm not sure if this is really that significant, but I don't like this post as well. Its less scummy then the other posts I've made, but the fact that Evan says "if his rolename is insignificant I say we lynch him anyway" because that is grasping at straws.
I don't really have any time left to analyze much else, I think this is as good as it gets with my case. So yes, I IMPLORE all of you to switch your votes to evan. I'm very confident in my read on him.
Okay, to start there is this post.
I have issues with the sentences in bold. For the first one, I feel as if he was attempting to twist Aron's words over a petty reason. For the second bold, he says that there could be a Dad/Dolby scumteam. I have a LOT of problems with him saying the last bold, because since Evan should be atleast somewhat familiar with host balancing the two of them together on a team would be absolute hell for town according to the current meta.
Before this post Evan also said that Dad/Dolby were a possible scum team but I don't think those posts are very notable enough to warrent me talking about them. Evan has said that he is "pointing out the Dolby/Dad scum team" as a possibility to note, but the fact that he is using 2 of the godfathers (ugh, i still cringe calling experienced players "the godfathers") as a potential scum team doesn't sit well with me.
In this post he says his top scumleans are bianca/aron, and he seemingly hasn't said anything regarding Bianca up until this point in the game. I'm fine with him saying that he is suspicious of Bianca, but he hasn't said any reasoning about WHY bianca is scum until this point. He has mentioned her briefly from what I've seen, but doesn't do anything to give a good case for it. There is this post:
the fact bianca is super concerned about the amount of exclamations she put in her posts is lol.
I mean, let's talk about that for a second. She roleclaimed before the game ****ing started. Just one question.
I doubt a role like epona is a safeclaim, but Bianca: that's a terrible and unnecessary thing to do so early in the game.
RN it seems like bianca is actively and openly trying to NOT sound like her maf self. Which is scummy to me.
but he doesn't mention it at all afterwards. He tried to start a suspicion of Bianca in this post for yet ANOTHER petty reason that is very clearly a joke (Bianca claiming as Epona, which I personally would see as scummy if it happened around possibly mid d1, but this is just ridiculous.).
And then there is his "reads" post, which I have issues with as well.
AmazonEvan19 said:
Okay. I have many issues with his Kit scumlean. Kit LITERALLY made 1 post saying "Evan is scum; Done!" and he is saying that Kit is scum for that. Now, I still think that Kit is scum with Evan, but the way Evan just shoehorned Kit in his scumleans is scummy af. I see this as distancing and bussing from one of his scum mates, because his reasoning for scumleaning Kit is so incredibly weak considering the fact that he actually put bianca (someone who he tried to say was suspicious for a weak reason as well) is less scummy then someone who made a 1-liner post regarding him being scum.
Dislike his townlean and null on Dad/Dolby as well considering he tried to say he was suspicious of him early in the game.
I have 2 problems with this post:
1. This might be a slip from Evan. A perspective slip if you will. Mafia know who eachother are, but Evan just said here "he hates losing a townie. Implying that he KNOWS that Aron really is a townie.
2. I feel like this is also evan trying to be neutral on Aron in the event he was actually lynched. Say Aron is lynched, then afterwards Evan says "Aw shucks i had a feeling he was telling the truth :sadface:".
I'm not sure if this is really that significant, but I don't like this post as well. Its less scummy then the other posts I've made, but the fact that Evan says "if his rolename is insignificant I say we lynch him anyway" because that is grasping at straws.
I don't really have any time left to analyze much else, I think this is as good as it gets with my case. So yes, I IMPLORE all of you to switch your votes to evan. I'm very confident in my read on him.
Good morning guys. (It's 10am in my time)
I don't know. But something hit me about the thing with Aronthear. Her role claim.
But then Ness came along and backed it up. He said he saw her Private Messaging to check.
And then all the blame slipped away from her.
Now, they're two possibilities.
1) Both Ness and Aron on Scum team.
2) Aron on Scum team, but Ness as a Townie.
Now, I have some kind of feeling that Ness and Aron are both on Scum team, because Ness backed her up quickly.
But I am unclear on this because two things could've happened.
A) Since Ness didn't want his fellow Scum mate to be lynched, he backed Aron up with smart evidence.
or
B) Aron was probably tricking Ness or something else. Who knows? Aron may have just been PMing somebody else about something completely different. You obviously can't see or look at what PM they are sending/viewing.
I just wanted to bring this up because as I was reading the thread, it fell through my head.
Also, what's with Kit this game? I haven't heard much from them at all.
I will make a reads post soon.
I don't know. But something hit me about the thing with Aronthear. Her role claim.
But then Ness came along and backed it up. He said he saw her Private Messaging to check.
And then all the blame slipped away from her.
Now, they're two possibilities.
1) Both Ness and Aron on Scum team.
2) Aron on Scum team, but Ness as a Townie.
Now, I have some kind of feeling that Ness and Aron are both on Scum team, because Ness backed her up quickly.
But I am unclear on this because two things could've happened.
A) Since Ness didn't want his fellow Scum mate to be lynched, he backed Aron up with smart evidence.
or
B) Aron was probably tricking Ness or something else. Who knows? Aron may have just been PMing somebody else about something completely different. You obviously can't see or look at what PM they are sending/viewing.
I just wanted to bring this up because as I was reading the thread, it fell through my head.
Also, what's with Kit this game? I haven't heard much from them at all.
I will make a reads post soon.
Anyway, I'm down for a vote on Evan, but the reason that I went after a him/Dan team is that even though he has Kermit and Dan at the same level in his reads, he manipulated the language of it to place Dan above Kermit in saying that to many people were townleaning Kermit (they weren't) and came to Evan's defense against an obvious town way to quickly. That being said, I'm fine with a lynch on either, but I want the lynch off Aron, and Evan seems more feasible
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@Chick, the fact that he asked the hosts first strongly indicates Ness is town and that they're both town
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@Chick, the fact that he asked the hosts first strongly indicates Ness is town and that they're both town
@Chick I suggest you stop worrying about Aron and start looking into Evan, because I want him dead today.
I can see Dolby voting Evan as a way of trying to save his ass as scum, but I'll worry about that if Evan flips Town by any chance..
I can see Dolby voting Evan as a way of trying to save his ass as scum, but I'll worry about that if Evan flips Town by any chance..
@Ness, Evan was one of my strong townreads, however I think you bring up a few notable posts in that post.
I do however fail to how Evan saying he hates to lose a townie is scummy in any way? The way I read it is, if Aron is lynched and is town, it won't be a good thing (obviously), lynching town D1 is never a good thing, but it seems like he thinks the possibility of Aron actually being scum overrides the loss that town will suffer if he does in fact, flip town.
There's only an hour and 30 minutes of day left, and I'm very all over the place with my thoughts right now, there's lots of good points being made that I agree with, a lot of which contradict themselves, I really have no idea where to put my vote at the moment
I do however fail to how Evan saying he hates to lose a townie is scummy in any way? The way I read it is, if Aron is lynched and is town, it won't be a good thing (obviously), lynching town D1 is never a good thing, but it seems like he thinks the possibility of Aron actually being scum overrides the loss that town will suffer if he does in fact, flip town.
There's only an hour and 30 minutes of day left, and I'm very all over the place with my thoughts right now, there's lots of good points being made that I agree with, a lot of which contradict themselves, I really have no idea where to put my vote at the moment
So, I guess Aron is safe now...
But now Evan. I'm looking at how he was talking about a potential Dad/Dolby scumteam and also Bianca, but then ran away from the idea and mentions completely different stuff in his reads post. I may as well vote for him, as my two scumleans have dropped down the drain.
Just saying, but who will we suspect if Evan flips town?
But now Evan. I'm looking at how he was talking about a potential Dad/Dolby scumteam and also Bianca, but then ran away from the idea and mentions completely different stuff in his reads post. I may as well vote for him, as my two scumleans have dropped down the drain.
Just saying, but who will we suspect if Evan flips town?
At bests, it meant that Evan was ok with lynching somebody that he townread ("I really hate losing a townie" implying that he thought Aron was telling the truth), which is in it's own way incredibly scummy and really wouldn't be talked about unless it was EoD and literally all the better lynch candidates claimed blues. Evan really shouldn't be thinking that said loss is net-beneficial regardless. At worst it means he KNOWS that Aron is town
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For me, Kit would 100% be the most suspicious after that.
But Fleshy, you saw his reads list and how it was absolutely different to his Scum reads he made beforehand, right?
He didn't even care to explain himself.
I'm assuming that Evan is offline now, so maybe he wouldn't be here to explain himself atm.
Who were your other scumreads, Fleshy?
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Oh, Kit is most likely coasting.
I viewed their profile and this is what came up:
Last Seen: Today 09:46 AM (AEST Time)
So that was like, 54 minutes ago.
They can't have forgotten about the thread, right?
He didn't even care to explain himself.
I'm assuming that Evan is offline now, so maybe he wouldn't be here to explain himself atm.
Who were your other scumreads, Fleshy?
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Oh, Kit is most likely coasting.
I viewed their profile and this is what came up:
Last Seen: Today 09:46 AM (AEST Time)
So that was like, 54 minutes ago.
They can't have forgotten about the thread, right?
I did notice changes, and I do see where Ness is coming from, however, I often make quick reads, then read over the thread again and end up making a reads list that is completely different as I notice things I didn't before, or realise I misread something. I don't think a change in reads in general is a massive point. Many people have changed their reads, dramatically at that, that being said though, I do think Evan is a little all over the place with his reads and changes.
When I made my reads post close to 12 hours ago, Heyden and Aron were my slight scum reads, with Dolby and you being sus.
ThomasHasntPlayedAC
I need a username change.
****, this one started already. If I can join mid-game, I wanna be a replacement. PM me when next game starts if I can't join now.
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But who are your scumreads now
I don't think you can. Sorry. There's other Mafia sign ups at the moment, though.
