Mafia The Murder of Woodpines Oregon - Game Thread - Endgame

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was gonna say, Bianca, lol farobi didn't keep his vote on you...but yeah

People to instalynch: Punchy, Amanda

People to look into/potentially vig kill: Panda, Farobi, Dedenne (?), EVAN :lemon:
 
What is your reasoning for Panda, Dedenne, and Evan:lemon:?

panda because like seroja and I have mentioned, she was one of the sheeple or scum who switched to waffles.

dedenne because she's always scum in my eyes :lemon: nah not really just because I need to see what she was doing leading up to the EoD; I understand she wasn't there cuz timezones but from what I recall, her posts have been rather unremarkable but could have things to glean from them.

and me because I'm a naughty little scum boy :lemon:
 
.... I'm not the most experienced of players but I am quite sure that Survivors are considered Anti-Town for a reason. And that's when they're not the calibre of player that glow is. Given the EoD mess, how on earth could glow still being the game actually be anything *but* a threat to Town???

last i checked town can win with survivors, unless its different here? im fairly certain survivors arent a threat to town unless u think u can only win if noone else does, which is just mean : (

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k imma do reads now, it will take a minute tho
 
Sorry i wasn't around more yesterday i wasn't feeling well... i have work in a couple hours im gonna try to catch up and update my reads, i dont really like to post them at night in fear of influencing the kills, but maybe i can save it on my phone and post right before night ends.... which is 7pm PST for me correct?

as far as the lynch, good job glow, we always flip flop and sheep last minute if i were here i probably would have done it too so im not gonna blame anyone specifically, but im kinda glad thats out of the way, explains my suspicion of glow cause she was not acting as her townie self.

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Sorry i wasn't around more yesterday i wasn't feeling well... i have work in a couple hours im gonna try to catch up and update my reads, i dont really like to post them at night in fear of influencing the kills, but maybe i can save it on my phone and post right before night ends.... which is 7pm PST for me correct?

as far as the lynch, good job glow, we always flip flop and sheep last minute if i were here i probably would have done it too so im not gonna blame anyone specifically, but im kinda glad thats out of the way, explains my suspicion of glow cause she was not acting as her townie self.

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wow what happened there..... ha
 
im still not sure about a lot of these, but im putting it out there in case i die.

Evan: was one of my strongest reads but now im not so sure, i predicted that it would be a reaction test but i think hes good enough to pull that out if he thought it went wrong. im not sure he was entirely justified in it tho i went along with it to see where it went and it turned out ok. ive agreed with him (mostly independantly but i think hes influenced me a bit) most of the time until now tho so im gonna give him the benefit of the doubt with a slight to medium tl.

Vanessa: idk, she loses a lot of points in my eyes for going along with the waffle wagon (what a great name btw lmao) but other than that shes been contributed and being useful, if a bit wishy washy. slight tl for now

Punchy: i dont even care what i read him anymore, either way i want him to die so we can get the info based off of peoples reactions to him and the great waffle wagon of 2018. if i had to read him itd probably be moderate maf especially after he got protected so hard but like i said i would want him to die even if he got a specific presidential recommendation for being kept alive

Toads: progressed from a slight tl to one of my strongest, his reads have stayed consistent over the course of the whole game and he gets major points for holding his ground against glow as well as going through with the selfvote thing, i think scum wouldve backpedalled on that super fast. strong tr

Farobi: wow he hasnt posted since the end of d1. i thought he was doing well at the start but his content has kinda dropped since then, cant really get a read bc of the lack of content so null for now but if punchy flips scum super sus

Amanda: a lot of her posts have been wishy washy, long but not saying much. i think shes trying to make herself look useful while in reality theyve basically all been either protecting punchy, scumreading waffles or defending herself. im not 100 percent sure but im gonna say slight to moderate sr for now

Locket: i can understand why people are sring her, but im gonna say that this is probably bad town. the random sr on antonio then insta backtrack could be scum messing up, or it could be a lack of confidence in reads (bad reads but reads) and im guessing its the later. i also think she just got swept up in the excitement of the bus rather than trying to protect a teammate. slight tl for now

Antonio: strongest tr i have (not that it does much, hes not exactly active), genuine newbie townie asking lots of question but too scared to be active, i guess its possible hes scum but the only way to explain the first '4 mafia' question is that someone in the qt told him to do it before he could even post, and im not so sure that happened. strong tr

Bianca: shes acting basically exactly like her last game as town, not really contributing much and being overly aggressive (sounds kinda mean but w/e) i guess its pretty unfounded but medium tl

Seroja: o boy, ok so im gonna say that shes town for now because she reacted pretty well to evan and has been contributing so far, but that omgus was so stupendously bad that im not so sure like why would a town do that kind of thing. gonna say slight tl for now but its very slight

Dedenne: hasnt said much but what i have seen has been pretty solid, would like more tho. could be maf just avoiding the spotlight? idk null for now

Panda: can i just copy paste dedennes read? again, very unactive, didnt participate in the waffle wagon fiasco so cant get a read from there, just kinda meh. null tho could see being scum

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i formatted that really frocking bad but I can’t change it now so w/e
 
Ok, I've seen what I need to from Seroja.

Lemme explain. I was baiting an OMGUS reaction from Seroja by trying to lump her in with people who legit steered the vote away from punchy. I knew Seroja really didn't, and obviously went after glow. I wanted to see if anything of what I said could make her tick/scumslip. She insta-OMGUS'd me to be sure, which is concerning, but it also makes sense from town!perspective. What I am reading is giving me significant reason to TR. The glow read was pretty spot on. I wasn't here EoD cuz of RL stuff so I could only sort out stuff afterwards.

I'm not insulting you Seroja. I don't think you're a terrible person. I just didn't like your boastfulness when hindsight's 20/20, but the read was solid, and you already apologized for the arrogance aspect, so it's all good. Ik this makes me look super sus but I'm willing to accept criticism for a bad rxn test attempt.

So at this point, I am very confident Punchy and Amanda are teammates, and the last one is a toss-up between Farobi, and Panda. I would need to look into Panda more but the fact I could barely remember she was in the threat makes her insanely sus tbh. Since we know there's a hostile TP, that'd make four scums super unlikely (even though I want to believe in four scums cuz the punchy vote has four people come away looking ultra scummy)

Amanda's explanation sounds a lot like she was posting something to hope town would switch from punchy, but just enough so she wouldn't get sussed afterwards for waffles dying. "Didn't want to lead a lynch on someone not here" yada yada yada...seems very convenient to me.

I'll believe it was a reaction test because it was super troll-y I couldn't believe my eyes, but I wasn't taking any chances. You're making sense in this post, and I like your tone. But I'll keep my eyes on you.
 
I'm on mobile rn and hopefully will reach my comp before EoN so I can post my complete thoughts about Evan's reaction test.

I honestly feel like Panda could be town. Inactivity for Panda doesn't really indicate either alignment because she's busy with work and have been mia a lot even as town before. However, I would still like to see more from her if possible.

Farobi is the most suspect tbh. From my little experience playing with Farobi, he's the type to sus people a lot and post reads here and there (iirc?). In this game, he's not only been awfully quiet, he had also not participate in any of the discussions happening in thread at all, only appearing at eod to throw a half-hearted read on Bianca to justify his vote. And once again, he's conveniently missing during this night phase. Where are you Farobi?

Amanda I'm not so sure. Going on tone, she doesn't sound forced or unnatural. The only sketchy thing she'd done was the push on waffle. But if you think about it, assuming she's town, she was trying to save someone who she thought was obvious town, and pushed a lynch on someone who she was more sure was scum. As mafia, I don't believe she's the type to blatantly try to save her teammate on her own like that, especially for someone like punchy. Unless punchy is a special scum role and they're desperate.

Punchy, now the main reason why a lot of you flipped to waffles was because you started to read him as town. So what's your stance now you floppers? The moment he voted himself and gave up you started shaking in your boots. Now which is it? Is he town or scum? Those who have played a lot of games with him please think long and hard about it. I don't want a repeat of D1 if we're gonna lynch Punchy again on D2.
 
Punchy, now the main reason why a lot of you flipped to waffles was because you started to read him as town. So what's your stance now you floppers? The moment he voted himself and gave up you started shaking in your boots. Now which is it? Is he town or scum? Those who have played a lot of games with him please think long and hard about it. I don't want a repeat of D1 if we're gonna lynch Punchy again on D2.
The reason everyone's sus of me after the flip on Waffles is only bc he's town. Btw if I'm not shot, there is no vig unless A. they are RBed. Post in the chat if you're roleblocked Antonio. or B the vig is amanda
 
Seroja said:
So what's your stance now you floppers? The moment he voted himself and gave up you started shaking in your boots. Now which is it? Is he town or scum? Those who have played a lot of games with him please think long and hard about it. I don't want a repeat of D1 if we're gonna lynch Punchy again on D2.

Fellow sheeple here, Punchy voting for himself and his emotion filled posts is what pushed me to vote Waffles. With Waffles flipping town I'm honestly torn on Punchy's alignment. He definitely has not been acting like himself this whole game but unless he's a master of AtE his reactions to everything seem genuine. But I want him dead either way so we can just get this over with and learn more about everyone's alignment

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TL;DR my stance is still floppy :lemon:
 
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