Mafia The Quest for King - Mafia | Game Thread | GAME OVER

[N e s s]

If I wasn't being clear on why I want Oath dead:

I think Dan pushed me as king because he and Tom thought it would be funny. I don't think it's any more deep than that.

I mean, if you want to kill a town, go off. You're tunnel-visioning me for the reason of "Oath has been skating by and he's an easy target to go after".

1. No, there are receipts of Dan saying he wanted you as king because you were coasting by. Maybe that's a feather in his cap of maintaining his townread if you're wolf, but I digress.
2. You're basically saying I'm wolfreading you for the same thing you did said about myself. You said this below right?

I mean, I'm not entirely convinced you're town. I have no evidence to prove one way or another but it's possible. at the time i had the mindset of y'all faking an argument to prove one of y'all as town but that's not the case

Its convenient to say that I'm going for Oath because he's "easy," but I've provided my reasoning already in post #556 on page 28. You've still said absolutely nothing. All it would have took was a response to what I asked, or even some basic thoughts on the game, to have made me not want him as my direct target. What's "easy" is simply saying you're town but continuing to say nothing when multiple people have asking for your thoughts.

what sticks me out for killing over what other people have sus'd like volt, for example

Why should volt have anything to do with his own behavior in thread? Volt has made some decent posts that admittedly I haven't dissected enough yet, but they're ultimately irrelevant in that conversation. Why try to change the subject off himself when all I asked was a question? Daniel was talking about volt, not me

 

[EnderWiggin]

I'm not sure how a hard townread couldn't be possible TMI. You also read Shiny with TMI since they were dead at that point

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like, it would be odd to mind meld with a player when you have the knowledge they are town?

I'm confused what you're going for here.

Could a hard read be TMI? Sure I could be TMIing Jacob here I guess. Why would it be odd to mindmeld with a player I know is town?

 

[N e s s]

Also idc about Trent jokingly saying he wanted to kill oath, I already got that. Why is it different now that I am being serious about wanting him dead compared to Trent joking?

 

[EnderWiggin]

Also idc about Trent jokingly saying he wanted to kill oath, I already got that. Why is it different now that I am being serious about wanting him dead compared to Trent joking?

If it helps I'm aboard the "Oath dead" express.

 

[oath2order]

Ness that's terrible reasoning to want to kill someone, and I know you know that.

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If it helps I'm aboard the "Oath dead" express.

Why?

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Also idc about Trent jokingly saying he wanted to kill oath, I already got that. Why is it different now that I am being serious about wanting him dead compared to Trent joking?

Because I know Tom is joking and for him to kill me would objectively be funny.

 

[Damniel]

I'm confused what you're going for here.

Could a hard read be TMI? Sure I could be TMIing Jacob here I guess. Why would it be odd to mindmeld with a player I know is town?

No, I'm talking about the fact that you both hard townread Shiny.

You hardread Shiny as town it seems, but you also knew they were already dead town. Jacob should not have that knowledge as town.

I am saying it's unusual to mind meld with a player since you have TMI on Shiny while you claim Jacob is town. I don't think you can read Shiny at this point without that knowledge

 

[N e s s]

@EnderWiggin I'm curious to know how you feel about this because it's the only thing about Jacob that directly concerns me.

wouldn't go geoni would like to see them at least post before they die

ness feels the wolfiest to me, their method of trying to get people to vote them at the start by being direct with them felt weird, and of the people pushing for king they feel the most uncertain and I feel like town would be more likely to commit to doing it

I'm kinda wavering on my vote on you, I don't feel completely comfortable handing over king to you tbh either, I feel more comfortable handing it to someone who doesn't feel like they're trying to control gamestate

The reasoning for finding me wolf is flimsy to me. I said on that same page that I was only joking about the whole alliance. iirc he didn't have much to say about Chris being the consensus elimination either.

 

[oath2order]

If I wasn't being clear on why I want Oath dead:

1. No, there are receipts of Dan saying he wanted you as king because you were coasting by. Maybe that's a feather in his cap of maintaining his townread if you're wolf, but I digress.
2. You're basically saying I'm wolfreading you for the same thing you did said about myself. You said this below right?


Its convenient to say that I'm going for Oath because he's "easy," but I've provided my reasoning already in post #556 on page 28. You've still said absolutely nothing. All it would have took was a response to what I asked, or even some basic thoughts on the game, to have made me not want him as my direct target. What's "easy" is simply saying you're town but continuing to say nothing when multiple people have asking for your thoughts.



Why should volt have anything to do with his own behavior in thread? Volt has made some decent posts that admittedly I haven't dissected enough yet, but they're ultimately irrelevant in that conversation. Why try to change the subject off himself when all I asked was a question? Daniel was talking about volt, not me

You said of thise five names you prior listed, one has to be mafia. Why are you not so hard on any of those other 4?

 

[N e s s]

Ness that's terrible reasoning to want to kill someone, and I know you know that.

Clearly I don't. Trying to give you the benefit of the doubt but cmon.

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You said of thise five names you prior listed, one has to be mafia. Why are you not so hard on any of those other 4?

As far as I'm concerned they're irrelevant when it comes to solving your slot right now. Not going to debate with you on it if you're not going to give anyone something to work with. Why are you changing the subject when multiple people have said they want you dead?

 

[Damniel]

Because when I started reading D1 I saw Shiny's entrance to D1 and was like "This is never mafia"

I find this a weird statement because you read D1 knowing Shiny's alignment. I think you're looking at this with confirmation bias

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I think Volt is town at this point

 

[oath2order]

Clearly I don't. Trying to give you the benefit of the doubt but cmon.

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As far as I'm concerned they're irrelevant when it comes to solving your slot right now. Not going to debate with you on it if you're not going to give anyone something to work with. Why are you changing the subject when multiple people have said they want you dead?

It's not changing the subject, it's something that's legitimate to bring up. Why do you seem to think that me bringing up the other people you wanted to kill is not a valid subject of discussion?

 

[annika]

Hey Annika. I think you're pretty towny. Can I ask you, between Volt or Ness who do you have a stronger townread on?

And could you articulate the reason for that read?

tbh I'm not even sure now

I kind of feel like I'm wrong somewhere because two ppl I wasn't townreading died

I don't know where to start looking for where I went wrong so I kind of want to reset my reads entirely

 

[voltairenism]

ness how certain you are that dan is wolf

 

[annika]

I would assume they probably started picking potiential targets by then. Even if they didn’t settle on Shiny, I don’t think they would king potential kills?

hmm...
I still feel like that's a reach, but I understand where you're coming from

 

[N e s s]

ness how certain you are that dan is wolf

Don't take this as an exact scale, but I'd say 35% without anyone revealed as mafia right now. Anything on your mind?

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Like I get the perspective and argument of him being mafia, but I find it difficult to imagine without anything solid. I went though his posts last night and he has legitimately interacted with everyone barring Geoni/Arstotzkan. But maybe that's meaningless without a solid flip.

 

[oath2order]

ness how certain you are that dan is wolf

Are you sussing me now

 

[voltairenism]

Don't take this as an exact scale, but I'd say 35% without anyone revealed as mafia right now. Anything on your mind?

just bc i will most probably vote you as king. so im thinking "if ness sees dan lacking, would he immediately pull the trigger or wait to see more"
digesting on which one i prefer too lol it's a scary player but it needs time to figure out

 

[N e s s]

just bc i will most probably vote you as king. so im thinking "if ness sees dan lacking, would he immediately pull the trigger or wait to see more"
digesting on which one i prefer too lol it's a scary player but it needs time to figure out

Nah I don't know if I have the capacity to kill him right now. Nobody has really put anything forward on him, it's all just kind of been the ~vibes~ that a hard town player is a bad guy.

If Dan was mafia who would you think his partners would be? Anything about him that strikes you as inherently mafia?

 

[EnderWiggin]

No, I'm talking about the fact that you both hard townread Shiny.

You hardread Shiny as town it seems, but you also knew they were already dead town. Jacob should not have that knowledge as town.

I am saying it's unusual to mind meld with a player since you have TMI on Shiny while you claim Jacob is town. I don't think you can read Shiny at this point without that knowledge

I'm making the read because my first reaction at start of day (Before I'd checked who had died ftr) was that Shiny was super town for x reason. Then Jacob says x reason.

Unless you think I'm mafia then I don't see the issue with my read.

 

[voltairenism]

Are you sussing me now

i would never bb