Mafia Wrath of the Egyptian Gods - Kingmaker (Game Thread) Endgame

[Ryumia]

Hey guys. Thanks for welcoming me.

 

[cornimer]

Let's be nicer to her than y'all were to me

 

[amazonevan19]

Hey guys. Thanks for welcoming me.

You're welcome. Now read 39 pages and give us full reads in the next 30 minutes or else Dolby will vote for you

/s

@Vanessa: tbh it's a wonder you're still around here after that treatment lmao

 

[cornimer]

You're welcome. Now read 39 pages and give us full reads in the next 30 minutes or else Dolby will vote for you

/s

@Vanessa: tbh it's a wonder you're still around here after that treatment lmao

Honestly smh

 

[toadsworthy]

Hey guys. Thanks for welcoming me.

I noticed you stalking our thread all day... do you get how mafia plays out? do you have any questions?

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i am a person who is not mafia or town, but who wins by just surviving until the end... so i'm basically a neutral party. If you have any questions, feel free to direct them towards me. As I really don't have any other purpose in this game lol

 

[Jacob]

hi ryumia welcome

 

[Biancasbotique]

I vote Ryumia to be the next King, kingmaker!

 

[Dolby]

Trundle-Frankly, I think it's pretty obvious that Trundle is town. He hasn't done anything remotely warrenting suspicion imo
Sensai-Sensai's reads were interesting to say the least. With the exception of myself, I really don't see the justification behind any of those, but what struck me must was her scumleans, Tom and Trundle, and Tina. The fact that Tina used AtE in BotW should at least indicate that she's able to fake a legitimate looking emotional response. Trundle, honestly, I get that it's a gut feeling, but I don't see why he should be all the way down there. Or even why you felt the need to call on only those four. I will say that there's no way that Sensai and whoever Zendal's replacement is are a team. This isn't so much because I don't like how Sensai is playing, I just don't like their reads
Evan-

Bianca, have you by any chance read the OP where the rules are explained? Just because someone is kingmaker it does not confirm them as town.

Also ITYW is acting suspiciously like when I was scum with her one time imo. I'm not really feeling good about Bianca and ITYW rn, and I'm not sure why toads is going after me.

Main thing here is that he swoops in saying that ITYW is sus after sus on him is dying down (me and Kat have been kicking him around for maybe half an hour) and provides little reasoning for his reads. At this point, Toads has posted that Evan is fluffing his posts (which really isn't a good point, he does it as both alignments), and goes after Bianca, who honestly was ****posting that she barely even knew the setup, without any reasoning. He also throws mud at Panda for lurking, which many of us had done at that point.

Trundle?s confidence in his scumreads is a little weird imo. I don?t think glow?s posted much to make much of a read on, Trundle doesn?t elaborate on his Tīna read because ?I want to see more posts,? and Panda has still not said anyrhing.

Like, I agree that 2/3 are kind of sus (glow and Panda), but if I had to make a choice as king this instant, I?d probably pick Toads for the lulz ITYW. Her excuses for trusting Toads and her response to me were very non confrontational, though now that Toads has outed as survivor, it does make ITYW look a tiny bit less sus.

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Hmm both byngo and waffles went after zendel for the exact same reason

Honestly, there is only one possible (and intentional) scum motivation for waffles to post about Toads, trying to build support for Toads, and the fact that you haven't really provided independent reasoning for suspecting waffles makes the read far less legitimate in my view. Nor has he ever sussed Toads. Only reasoning is here, which, with his and Chick's subsequent explanation, only really makes sense with a Toads/waffles team (not something that I'm thinking about)

Also ITYW is acting suspiciously like when I was scum with her one time imo.

Nuuuu don?t kill meh pls Great Leader Dolbster

Trundle says he?s not sussing on activity? Yeah right, it just so happens the people he picked were low volume posters or ****posters.

tina?s whole ?I have no team and it feels damn good? shtick feels really fake to me. I don?t think she?s scum because of activity, but that post just felt off to me

Also ITYW, sorry to hear about your friend

At that time I think she only posted about the RQs. I didn?t think she did anything overtly suspicious, so I didn?t know what to make of her yet.

The main thing that I don't like about Evan's reads is his placement of Tina solidly in his nulls when when he mentioned her behavior in his two previous terms. Honestly makes his read just seem fake. However, I also don't like his read on Cleb, putting him in Townleans when he's only made one post, and only really challenged me on a joke post in terms of activity that's alignment indicative. With the exception of his reads, I honestly feel that I'd be comfortable with a lot that he's said if it was made 20 minutes earlier

Vanessa-

Spoiler

I was asleep, don't suss me for inactivity pls

Ok my brief thoughts on the thread so far:
1. All of Jacob's posts seem town to me so far.
2. I feel like everyone is jumping on Toads too fast. I don't think he's said anything out of character yet, and I don't find the whole Dolby/Waffles/him miscommunication thing as scummy, he just misread something. Let him post when fully sober at least before everyone susses him. And on Waffles, I honestly don't know how I feel about her yet.
3. That being said I don't agree with his read on Evan. Evan seems to be acting the exact same as the last game to me and he was town last time.
4. I'd like to see what Heyden thinks stuck out in my RQS. And to the person who said it looked like I was sheeping because I said I would see who "everyone" thinks is the most scumish, I just meant that I wouldn't make the lynching decision all by myself. I would listen to other people's opinions. (But making me king is a bad idea kingmaker please don't)

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*I'm not sure on Waffles' pronouns actually apologies if I got them wrong

I like this post, with the exception of point 3.

I'm trying to not point fingers as quickly as I did last game because last game I pointed fingers at all the wrong people. I did state all of my thoughts so far earlier this morning though and I stand by them (except now I'm even more sure about toads being clear bc of his claim)

This post really only makes sense from a new scum perspective if Toads is scum with her, and I doubt that he's scum honestly. Moreover, she did have the first reaction to Toads claim, and I feel she'd be more cautious, so I'm going to recant my sus from earlier and say that she's probably town, although I feel uncomfortable with her interactions with Tina specifically. Honestly feels like she's going along with what she's saying purely because she's townleaning her(this does not feel like scumbuddying), but if Vanessa is maf, honestly it would be pretty town indicative for both Tina and Heyden

Toads-Frankly, I really don't understand why Toads would fakeclaim so early as maf. Tbh I would be cautious about him, his reaction to me about him and waffles, and then Glow and Heyden don't bode well

XCleb-One thing that I want to comment on, he prob won't have much time til the weekend, but I don't see any reason to lean one way or the other on him

Bianca-This is 100% a gut read. The only things that I like about her is Evan going after her, and her awkward Zendal/Trundle comment, which honestly felt strangely town

Waffles

Tom-Tina/Tom isn't a possible team, no maf member busses a teammate so weakly

Chick-His comments on the waffles/toads thing showed honestly a more level head, but I also like their continuity on Tina/Tom

Heyden-He had no maf motivations to point that out. If he thought Toads was a lover, he would have kept it to himself or subtlely pressured him to see who would defend him.



I'm actually really running out of time, but the rest of my reads have Kat and Jacob as town, Glow as weak town, Panda as null, and f11 and Tina as a scumlean

I think that Evan/Tina is a possible scum team, sus F11 and Sensei, and think that there are maybe two mafia within my nulls. Honestly would be quite happy to see two of those four be mafia. If I'm wrong about Evan and Tina, I'd be most worried about Glow, and then maybe Tom

 

[Ryumia]

You're welcome. Now read 39 pages and give us full reads in the next 30 minutes or else Dolby will vote for you

/s

@Vanessa: tbh it's a wonder you're still around here after that treatment lmao

Mhm... I don't think I could do that. I'm not that fast of a reader and my thought process is kind of slow.

I noticed you stalking our thread all day... do you get how mafia plays out? do you have any questions?

Mafia seemed a bit interesting to me, so I decided to look through it and maybe learn the ropes from there. Though... Ness told me the best way to learn to play mafia is to actually play a game of one. That's when I decided to at least give a shot. I mean... I don't have anything to lose by trying it out.

I suppose. I understand the victory condition for Town and Mafia. I also know that there could be third party roles as well. There's also voting for others to get lynched. As well as the fact that someone could die during nightime.

I don't really have any questions at the moment. But... I'll ask when I need some clarification.

 

[toadsworthy]

Trundle-Frankly, I think it's pretty obvious that Trundle is town. He hasn't done anything remotely warrenting suspicion imo
Sensai-Sensai's reads were interesting to say the least. With the exception of myself, I really don't see the justification behind any of those, but what struck me must was her scumleans, Tom and Trundle, and Tina. The fact that Tina used AtE in BotW should at least indicate that she's able to fake a legitimate looking emotional response. Trundle, honestly, I get that it's a gut feeling, but I don't see why he should be all the way down there. Or even why you felt the need to call on only those four. I will say that there's no way that Sensai and whoever Zendal's replacement is are a team. This isn't so much because I don't like how Sensai is playing, I just don't like their reads
Evan-

Main thing here is that he swoops in saying that ITYW is sus after sus on him is dying down (me and Kat have been kicking him around for maybe half an hour) and provides little reasoning for his reads. At this point, Toads has posted that Evan is fluffing his posts (which really isn't a good point, he does it as both alignments), and goes after Bianca, who honestly was ****posting that she barely even knew the setup, without any reasoning. He also throws mud at Panda for lurking, which many of us had done at that point.


Honestly, there is only one possible (and intentional) scum motivation for waffles to post about Toads, trying to build support for Toads, and the fact that you haven't really provided independent reasoning for suspecting waffles makes the read far less legitimate in my view. Nor has he ever sussed Toads. Only reasoning is here, which, with his and Chick's subsequent explanation, only really makes sense with a Toads/waffles team (not something that I'm thinking about)






The main thing that I don't like about Evan's reads is his placement of Tina solidly in his nulls when when he mentioned her behavior in his two previous terms. Honestly makes his read just seem fake. However, I also don't like his read on Cleb, putting him in Townleans when he's only made one post, and only really challenged me on a joke post in terms of activity that's alignment indicative. With the exception of his reads, I honestly feel that I'd be comfortable with a lot that he's said if it was made 20 minutes earlier

Vanessa-
I like this post, with the exception of point 3.

This post really only makes sense from a new scum perspective if Toads is scum with her, and I doubt that he's scum honestly. Moreover, she did have the first reaction to Toads claim, and I feel she'd be more cautious, so I'm going to recant my sus from earlier and say that she's probably town, although I feel uncomfortable with her interactions with Tina specifically. Honestly feels like she's going along with what she's saying purely because she's townleaning her(this does not feel like scumbuddying), but if Vanessa is maf, honestly it would be pretty town indicative for both Tina and Heyden

Toads-Frankly, I really don't understand why Toads would fakeclaim so early as maf. Tbh I would be cautious about him, his reaction to me about him and waffles, and then Glow and Heyden don't bode well

XCleb-One thing that I want to comment on, he prob won't have much time til the weekend, but I don't see any reason to lean one way or the other on him

Bianca-This is 100% a gut read. The only things that I like about her is Evan going after her, and her awkward Zendal/Trundle comment, which honestly felt strangely town

Waffles

Tom-Tina/Tom isn't a possible team, no maf member busses a teammate so weakly

Chick-His comments on the waffles/toads thing showed honestly a more level head, but I also like their continuity on Tina/Tom

Heyden-He had no maf motivations to point that out. If he thought Toads was a lover, he would have kept it to himself or subtlely pressured him to see who would defend him.



I'm actually really running out of time, but the rest of my reads have Kat and Jacob as town, Glow as weak town, Panda as null, and f11 and Tina as a scumlean

I think that Evan/Tina is a possible scum team, sus F11 and Sensei, and think that there are maybe two mafia within my nulls. Honestly would be quite happy to see two of those four be mafia. If I'm wrong about Evan and Tina, I'd be most worried about Glow, and then maybe Tom

so who you gonna send to the gallows?

 

[EpicGamer12]

I think Sensai is a pretty safe lynch today. Think D1 Caxnival vs right now. Polar opposite behaviors.

 

[Dolby]

so who you gonna send to the gallows?

I’m thinking Evan or Tina because they’ve been linked

 

[SensaiGallade]

I think Sensai is a pretty safe lynch today. Think D1 Caxnival vs right now. Polar opposite behaviors.

How is it polar opposite behaviour if I could ask? I have nothing to contribute as of now. Even as you say, I was the 'polar opposite' I was still lynched D1 unnecessarily and while I understand Dolby's point on view, i wouldnt agree I should be a D1 lynch when there are people acting more suspicious.

 

[EpicGamer12]

How is it polar opposite behaviour if I could ask? I have nothing to contribute as of now. Even as you say, I was the 'polar opposite' I was still lynched D1 unnecessarily and while I understand Dolby's point on view, i wouldnt agree I should be a D1 lynch when there are people acting more suspicious.

You usually have a solid anything at this point regardless of how much it is, and your posts all sound super defensive even when you're not defending anything

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I could be wrong about you, you're definitely not my strongest scum read

 

[Chick]

First of all, Ryumia, welcome to Mafia! (Sorry for being late, I always get sick and I was just took a bad nap).
I thank you for replacing Zendel and actually trying to play. C:

Well, @ Eternal Leader, I think if we lynch Tina, it’d give us more information. If she’s town, we know that Tom is probably Scum or Town (depends on her reads) and if Tina flips scum, then we could tell that Tom is probably Town.
What would we get out of an Evan lynch though?
Well, I don’t know, so I’m going to look through Tina's and Evan's reads and see what I could get from them.

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if you* lynch Tina not we

 

[Trent the Paladin]

I’m thinking Evan or Tina because they’ve been linked

Is Toad an option based off what others have said or is he somebody you’re not considering for today?

 

[Chris]

Accidentally took a nap. Feel no better. But I'm not just going to throw mafia an easy D1.

Do you really think this is my scum play? I've been scum every game I've been in for the past year. You know I don't even post D1 half the time. I don't draw attention to myself. I don't do anything reckless. This is my first game as town in so damn long I was happy to be able to speak for myself for once when I was criticised for the same damn thing that people peg me for every game: activity. On Day 1 one of all things. Do you think I'd just let myself be lynched for a dumb reason when I've been waiting a year to play my preferred alignment? It was nice for one to stop bottling up reactions. This isn't my scum play. This isn't even my usual town play. I've never once ever been legitimately annoyed like that in a game in a four year mafia history.

 

[Dolby]

Is Toad an option based off what others have said or is he somebody you’re not considering for today?

Toads is an option, just not someone that I particularly want to lynch

 

[Trent the Paladin]

First of all, Ryumia, welcome to Mafia! (Sorry for being late, I always get sick and I was just took a bad nap).
I thank you for replacing Zendel and actually trying to play. C:

Well, @ Eternal Leader, I think if we lynch Tina, it’d give us more information. If she’s town, we know that Tom is probably Scum or Town (depends on her reads) and if Tina flips scum, then we could tell that Tom is probably Town.
What would we get out of an Evan lynch though?
Well, I don’t know, so I’m going to look through Tina's and Evan's reads and see what I could get from them.

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if you* lynch Tina not we

I don’t see what a Tina lynch accomplishes honestly. A lot of you accuse her of only spreading ATE today and that doesn’t give us anything if those are the “majority “ of her posts.

 

[Chick]

I don’t see what a Tina lynch accomplishes honestly. A lot of you accuse her of only spreading ATE today and that doesn’t give us anything if those are the “majority “ of her posts.

I’m looking at Dolby's selections, not my actual wanted candidates. I mean, I don’t want Tina lynched today. But if it’s between her and Evan, Evan doesn’t even give us any information of his scum mates or anything related.

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Oh lol 400th post ^^^
Anyways, I actually want Panda up for lynch today. Her lurky behaviour is annoying and she keeps dropping in and out.