BetsySundrop
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Ness I hope we can avenge you!
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Dino flipped green. Possibility of godfather obv but right now more comfy about the slot.
Good deal.
Ness I hope we can avenge you!
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Dino flipped green. Possibility of godfather obv but right now more comfy about the slot.
this is a good list assuming dino isn’t godfather
why did o _ O turn into that ):
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i really think trundle is gf
ah yeah i forgot that they had one lolthis is a good list assuming dino isn’t godfather
volt/unravel/lily all voted frosty but based on lily voting dolby first i would focus on the other two
Phew, a lot to go through. It's quite hard to gather my thoughts and focus with the amount of posts being made. I'm honestly surprised that there were no killings.
For those of you that mentioned my takes not being all that great, do keep in mind that this is still my first mafia game on TBT and I'm a bit excited to participate. I realize that some of my posts received mixed reactions, but now that we made it to D2, I wanted to make it clear that I'm trying not to rush my thoughts and and formulate some reads that a lot of you will hopefully agree with. I feel like I'm beginning to grasp a better understanding of the other users' habits at this point. Anyway, from what I could gather after the first couple hours into D2, I wanted to give my reads, with more to come (by the way, this post took way too long to make and I probably missed many of the newest posts; I'll get to them later):
Explained opinions
Obvious/not-so-strong opinions
- Trundle: My mind is so mixed on him at the moment, but I'm still leaning towards town and here's why:
- Looking at his EOD1, I could tell he was starting to panic about the Zinnia votes. While I was fully convinced (and later proven wrong) that Zinnia was a wolf, I didn't want to suddenly jump on another bandwagon as quickly as I did with Mog previously. I personally didn't think Unravel's posts at the time was enough evidence for me to want to change my vote.
- If anything, I think he's trying his best to maintain a good town read of himself, and simply wants to get reactions out of others. He'd honestly be more of a town read from others if it weren't for the EOD1 panicking. In my opinion, a wolf would rarely act so crazily like that.
- annika: I'm mixed with her. From what I could tell, I think she is doing a very good job of maintaining composure and not letting others bother her groove, but there have been a couple D2 posts that made me question her legitimacy.
- Post #808 is a good example. Why would she vote for someone solely because of someone else telling her to?
- Earlier in post #782, she indirectly mentioned to Dolby that she doubted Trundle to be town, yet admitted in #808 that she went with Trundle's pushing for Unravel anyway.
- In short, I can sort of sense that she's giving off slight wolf vibes, though I'm going to remain null of her for now.
- voltairenism: I've agreed with volt's take on Zinnia. They had every right to question Zinnia's quiet actions when Zinnia was still in the game; unfortunately, she did not flip red, so I'll have to look at their other reads. At this time, volt is slight town.
- They mentioned Trundle being mafia because of his willingness to randomly push player votes. Post #548 brought up a valid point about Trundle possibly starting a wagon to eliminate the more active poster (Unravel over Zinnia). He began to panic when he realized not everyone was on board, and Zinnia was ultimately eliminated. Could this mean Trundle is actually mafia and Unravel is town? I'm not entirely sure because of my own thoughts on Trundle specifically, but volt gets my pass for valid possibility points.
- N e s s: I'm going to lean somewhat null on him, maaaaybe more to the wolf side.
- His point about the Ribbit Zinnia wagon was very understandable (post #691). While my reasoning for joining the Zinnia wagon was more so due to my personal thoughts about Zinnia's posting in general (and volt highlighting it), I couldn't help but notice a post from Betsy that had me scratching my head (post #728). So, you mean to tell me that Ness originally didn't want to vote Unravel, but wanted to do so after the Zinnia ejection? I'm confused.
- Oh, and post #727 is not how you want to prove you're town-aligned and not working with Betsy and Ribbot in disguise. You gotta do better than that.
- Off topic, but coming from an unfortunate victim of two rear-end accidents just over a month-long span this year, PLEASE do not text and drive. I don't want anything bad to happen to you or other drivers.
Ultimately, after Zinnia's ejection on N1, my reads of the potential mafia members right now would be as follows:
- BetsySundrop: They bring up valid points about Trundle, though I honestly cannot see their theory of Trundle and Ribbit working together (mentioned in post #862). They say Trundle is somewhat mafia, while Ribbit is town. I'm conflicted, and I'm null on Betsy as a result.
- ribbitribbon: They are so up-and-down, it's sort of crazy. I personally could not follow their theory in posts #712, #716, and #756. They start off by saying Trundle is heavy mafia, then suddenly back down without proper explanation. I'm sort of leaning wolf on ribbit, and I don't know if I'll be able to change my mind.
- ShinyDungeoneer: So far, we've mostly been on the same page in regards to their reads compared to mine. Post #735 brings up several valid points in their reads, such as ribbit's inconsistency, Trundle's unnecessary wagons, and Dolby's excellent posting. I'm trusting them so far.
- mogyay: Looking back at their posts and giving them a good read over, I really do not understand why I was foolish enough to hop on the wagon when it occurred. Mog is pretty innocent in my eyes.
- unravel: It's understandable that their time zone prevents them from posting a lot; I still would like to see more reads from them in order to make me feel more confident in them.
- FrostyAlmonds: I still view her as super town. She is very defensive, probably more so than what an average mafia member would comfortably act. While I am still unhappy that we can't be on the same page, I somewhat understand her reasonings behind her thoughts on me.
- Dinosaur: Literally made the first post on D2, placing a random vote on D1. I'm not going to say they're a wolf solely because of that, but I'll need to see some action before I can fully trust them.
- radical6: They have more posts than some of the others, but not enough to form an opinion on. I am going to lean more towards town as they clearly don't want to take a lot of risks at this time (post #540 mentions not wanting to vote ribbit out despite ribbit receiving a bulk of the blame), though I'm going to remain cautious.
- lily2816: I honestly believe they are town. I would like to see more confirmation in regards to their own personal reads, but other than that, I wouldn't be suspicious.
- Yoshi155: Very neutral-minded and up-front. As they are also new to mafia without posting a whole lot, I cannot formulate any proper read as of right now.
- Dolby: I'm going to give him bonus points for doing a very good job of being up-front with the other users. While I do have questions about him in regards to how he actually reads certain posts (Betsy's notes being an example), I could definitely trust him as being a mediator for the town.
I'll read more of the thread tomorrow.
- ribbitribbon
- N e s s
- annika
- Dinosaur
ah yeah i forgot that they had one lol
ok uhh ig dino isnt clear but we should still keep her alive until we get more info
mogyay looks like the most obvious answer stillWhat do you think of tn4u now?
Who do you think dolby was trying to distract from or save with your d1 ribbit wagon?
mogyay looks like the most obvious answer still
and if it’s mogyay then it’s probably not trundle because he fosses her first
if radical is maf let’s just hope radi gets policy chopped :’)
Did frosty say she thought I was rber? I missed that. If so, weird read. I don’t think Frosty never puts teammates on her suggested wolf team but yeah she doesn’t put all of them on it
honestly i thought what he said to betsy was true lolAlso I really wanna know what went through Dolby's mind at this moment lmao!!!
(I didn't say he was RBer just that I was hoping to hit RBer lol, I'm not that megamind)
honestly i thought what he said to betsy was true lol
Also I really wanna know what went through Dolby's mind at this moment lmao!!!
(I didn't say he was RBer just that I was hoping to hit RBer lol, I'm not that megamind)
Trundle is town for me Frosty and I can’t really talk in depth about it now, but he did say that Mog was a wolf at the same time that I was thinking that her posts felt emptiest, and I’ve vibed well with his posts after that. I think that if he’s with mafia he could be with TN4U, and not with Mog. If Mog is a town, I think there’s a good chance that wolves are sheeping that read. RibbitRibbon could be a wolf in that regard: quite frankly the reads they provided felt like they were shaped by thread consensus. Like aside from their recent Volt doubt they’ve felt for someone posting as much as they have very conscious of what the thread consensus is. Funny enough the read process I like most is the one line they had on me lol. I don’t like what they put forward to why Trundle is a town read, and if they do know TN4U I think they could be pocketing him
honestly i thought what he said to betsy was true lol
Have to say, going for rb, hitting rb....well done! You deserve some kind of award for that.I mean the second half would def be true I won't deny it, but the first half is what I was referring to since he was RBer.