Mafia Call the Ships to Port: Game Thread - END GAME - TOWN VICTORY!

I sort feel like this might imply the possibility that Kammm might be mafia. :/

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I mean... It

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Bleh... Never mind. Lol. It sounded fine the first time. xD

Pardon? I tr her actually, and I'm just curious about her read of you in context with Punchy. That's all.
 
Pardon? I tr her actually, and I'm just curious about her read of you in context with Punchy. That's all.
Well... I'm just feeling the paranoia of the game. That was all when I mention that.
 
Actually, Ryumia, why are so keen to have particular players (Tom, Ness) to trust as being Town? That's an interesting way to approach the game and I'd like to understand it better, so if you could explain that a little I'd really appreciate it.

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Well... I'm just feeling the paranoia of the game. That was all when I mention that.

Hmm, okay, fair enough. It's not paranoia though if "they" (Mafia) really are out to get "you" (Town)!

Did you mean that I was perhaps trying to *implicate* Kammm as being Mafia? Or that I had perhaps *identified* Kammm as being Mafia? Just wondering. As I said, I read her as Town.
 
last post before bedtime, two things

(1) TINA OPEN THE VOTING THREAD PLEASE

(2) as much as the punchy discussion is beneficial, I think we should also spend some time this day phase focusing on the next lynch targets after this. Punchy is 97% likely to flip scum and we need to not forget that there's probably two(+?) more teammates of his running around still. And as my last rushed reads illustrates, I'm having a hard time figuring out who the last two (or three) could be

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As fearful as we are about lynching punchy, I think there is no way we should NOT lynch him. He's the center of a raging ****storm and his continued presence will only be a nagging issue as we keep going forward
 
Actually, Ryumia, why are so keen to have particular players (Tom, Ness) to trust as being Town? That's an interesting way to approach the game and I'd like to understand it better, so if you could explain that a little I'd really appreciate it.
Well... I find it easier to play mafia when I find this sense of trust with people that I like. Out of everyone in the player list of the game... Tom and Ness were the only candidate I feel this sense of trust. I would add Heyden too, but sometimes I'm just not sure if I should or not. I find it easier to null him.

When playing with Tom in my first game... I observed his movements very carefully in the game only because the stuff he was saying was pretty intelligent. I had this assumption that he was a skilled player. After following his trail... I figured that his role had to be a blue role, but I wasn't sure what the power of his role was and waited for the game to go on. When he got lynch by Jacob in that game he did actually flipped to a power role.

With Ness... He was the host for the game I was playing. I looked to him for advice when I like lost motivation to continue after both Chick (Townie) and Tom (Power Role). If I didn't look to him for advice I wouldn't be playing mafia anymore. So... I just feel grateful to him. He gave me the push I need to keep playing my first game. Though... In the end I got modkilled. Lol.
 
well i think there was 5 starting mafia and the most likely scenario is that dolby shot punchy believing there was no truth to punchy's role.

i think if we can answer whether or not dolby shot punchy, we can answer whether or not punchy's telling the truth. honestly, if i was dolby, i wouldn't have shot punchy, fearing that the weirdly specific role was too odd to be true. dolby seemed to believe the opposite:



i think dolby shot punchy, then was nightkilled, in addition to dying because of punchy's role.

there's also the possibility that dolby didn't shoot and he was simply killed, and upon seeing there was no third death punchy outed that he was "hit" --- but i find this less likely due to the timing of punchy's hit claim being so fast.

to me, it doesn't really make sense why mafia would have a veteran bomb role + a healing role (JOAT), which could give credibility to punchy's claim. something else that comes to mind is that if i was mafia with a veteran bomb role on my team, i wouldn't use KP on anyone who i believe would shoot punchy as vig, as they would die upon shooting the bomb and KP would be wasted.

that said, i think it's worth looking into how tina might have used veteran in the past. the common definition of veteran is a role that will shoot anyone who visits them, but on TBT its used as a different word for bulletproof (vested).

the part that throws me off is the part about a lover being included in his role PM, i feel like that's too weird to lie about in a time where nobody really believes what you're saying anyway.

i'm beyond hesitant to say this, but i do believe punchy is 100% telling the truth about his role. that doesn't make him town, but yeah that's where i'm at.

My bomb doesn't activate until I die, not hit. I liked your post bc the post merge was funny imo

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Uhhhh
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Vanessa (one) and either glow or dad.(two)

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I can't either


@ Punchy : if you're Town, why would you not address glow's post to correct a conclusion she reached that YOU state elsewhere cannot be accurate??

@ glow : given what Punchy said above in particular (in response to Evans's questions), what do think of Punchy and his claim now?
 
Hmm, okay, fair enough. It's not paranoia though if "they" (Mafia) really are out to get "you" (Town)!

Did you mean that I was perhaps trying to *implicate* Kammm as being Mafia? Or that I had perhaps *identified* Kammm as being Mafia? Just wondering. As I said, I read her as Town.
Initially... I would say the former; however; my mind is in a jumble and I am currently thinking either or.
 
I'm going to look through the thread again. Maybe there's something I miss here. I don't know... :/
 
Honestly reading back I don't really have any new info, my conclusion is still Punchy is scum lol. I don't really have much else to say until the voting thread is open and I don't really want to do a rainbow reads list just yet, plus the fact I lowkey townread everyone, so I'm gonna have to do something about that and read up lol.
 
Honestly reading back I don't really have any new info, my conclusion is still Punchy is scum lol. I don't really have much else to say until the voting thread is open and I don't really want to do a rainbow reads list just yet, plus the fact I lowkey townread everyone, so I'm gonna have to do something about that and read up lol.
Yeah. It is probably for the best. We might find something I guess. Not sure... :X This game is just too dark. I'm scared. Lol.
 
just wanna say that we dont need to vote punchy today, seeing how complicated his role flavour im pretty sure its not faked, so we dont actively lose anything if he is maf cos he probably doesnt have any actions or anything, there are still some other ppl who we could lynch today

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b4 anyone asks who, i think theres a case to be made for a vannessa, evan or possibly amanda or heyden? today, gotta look into it tbh. dont get me wrong, i still think punchy is probably the best option atm, but hes said enough good stuff to make me worried enough about it to reconsider
 
just wanna say that we dont need to vote punchy today, seeing how complicated his role flavour im pretty sure its not faked, so we dont actively lose anything if he is maf cos he probably doesnt have any actions or anything, there are still some other ppl who we could lynch today

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b4 anyone asks who, i think theres a case to be made for a vannessa, evan or possibly amanda or heyden? today, gotta look into it tbh. dont get me wrong, i still think punchy is probably the best option atm, but hes said enough good stuff to make me worried enough about it to reconsider
Yeah his role is definitely not faked imo, but that doesn't say anything about his alignment. If Tom was a little bit more active and claimed JoaT earlier I'm sure he would've EASILY gotten away with it bc JoaT is generally a town-sided role. On the topic of JoaT, do you really think Punchy guessing Tom was a SCUM JOAT, and also guessing 2/4 abilities, and having a panic attack on discord and on the thread is just a coincidence? Scum JoaT hasn't been used in like 3 years, and I'm not sure how a person like Punchy with 5 games ish would be aware of that.

Leaving Punchy alive today will only drag the unnecessary time wasting we're going through right now. I don't really know why you can't see than Punchy is sort of using you right now to try and pin you down but w/e.

In the case that Punchy does flip town, I don't really blame anyone of the basis of how coincidental the situation was, plus how terribly he reacted to it imo, but I don't really forsee that occurring.
 
just wanna say that we dont need to vote punchy today, seeing how complicated his role flavour im pretty sure its not faked, so we dont actively lose anything if he is maf cos he probably doesnt have any actions or anything, there are still some other ppl who we could lynch today

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b4 anyone asks who, i think theres a case to be made for a vannessa, evan or possibly amanda or heyden? today, gotta look into it tbh. dont get me wrong, i still think punchy is probably the best option atm, but hes said enough good stuff to make me worried enough about it to reconsider
Okay then. Please provide an explanation to them. I would like to know the reasonings behind them, Rune.
 
Yeah his role is definitely not faked imo, but that doesn't say anything about his alignment. If Tom was a little bit more active and claimed JoaT earlier I'm sure he would've EASILY gotten away with it bc JoaT is generally a town-sided role. On the topic of JoaT, do you really think Punchy guessing Tom was a SCUM JOAT, and also guessing 2/4 abilities, and having a panic attack on discord and on the thread is just a coincidence? Scum JoaT hasn't been used in like 3 years, and I'm not sure how a person like Punchy with 5 games ish would be aware of that.

Leaving Punchy alive today will only drag the unnecessary time wasting we're going through right now. I don't really know why you can't see than Punchy is sort of using you right now to try and pin you down but w/e.

In the case that Punchy does flip town, I don't really blame anyone of the basis of how coincidental the situation was, plus how terribly he reacted to it imo, but I don't really forsee that occurring.

if hes using me why would he sr me? wouldnt that make me less likely to want to defend his actions?
 
You guys are making me Dolby right now... :T Town needs a leader. :X

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*miss
 
Okay then. Please provide an explanation to them. I would like to know the reasonings behind them, Rune.

like i said, i still need to take a deeper look into them, but off the top of my head:

vanessa: been really agreeable this game while simultaniously not really providing any kind of new arguments, was on the dolby bw for a bit then jumped off when it started to get debunked, is now on the punchy bw and is mostly sheeping this game. plus locket was acting a bit odd before she got replaced

evan: i used to sr, then i tr a bit, now im back to kinda sr him. his reasons for sr have been either non existent and faulty, and hes been mostly agreeing with other ppl and trying to coast it seems. still kinda unsure but the fact that dad thinks he might be scum too makes me a bit more sure since it would be much easier for him to just like him in order to push a lynch on glow if dad and evan are either teamed or dad is town and evan is scum

amanda: has been kinda coasting so far, but that might just be legitimately bc shes been busy, so idk. i put this as a maybe bc its still kinda hard to form a read on her so far, but ill try and take a look

heyden: has been really agreeable with other ppl so far and might be coasting, plus he got sussed by antonio who i think should be townlock pretty much with tom and dolbys reveals as opposite allignments, but idk its a maybe

theres probably other ppl im missing atm, i still am not sure about ppl like dad and glow and stuff like that, theyre too good for me to properly analyse tbh lol

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You guys are making me Dolby right now... :T Town needs a leader. :X

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*miss

i think dad can lead if he becomes a bit more active, i kinda trust him enough to put him in that position but idk

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dolby u havent even posted ur goodbye post yet : (
 
like i said, i still need to take a deeper look into them, but off the top of my head:

vanessa: been really agreeable this game while simultaniously not really providing any kind of new arguments, was on the dolby bw for a bit then jumped off when it started to get debunked, is now on the punchy bw and is mostly sheeping this game. plus locket was acting a bit odd before she got replaced

evan: i used to sr, then i tr a bit, now im back to kinda sr him. his reasons for sr have been either non existent and faulty, and hes been mostly agreeing with other ppl and trying to coast it seems. still kinda unsure but the fact that dad thinks he might be scum too makes me a bit more sure since it would be much easier for him to just like him in order to push a lynch on glow if dad and evan are either teamed or dad is town and evan is scum

amanda: has been kinda coasting so far, but that might just be legitimately bc shes been busy, so idk. i put this as a maybe bc its still kinda hard to form a read on her so far, but ill try and take a look

heyden: has been really agreeable with other ppl so far and might be coasting, plus he got sussed by antonio who i think should be townlock pretty much with tom and dolbys reveals as opposite allignments, but idk its a maybe

theres probably other ppl im missing atm, i still am not sure about ppl like dad and glow and stuff like that, theyre too good for me to properly analyse tbh lol

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i think dad can lead if he becomes a bit more active, i kinda trust him enough to put him in that position but idk
Mhm... I see. I'll keep your points in mind. Still rereading the thread for some stuff. Not really sure where to look though.
 
Mhm... I see. I'll keep your points in mind. Still rereading the thread for some stuff. Not really sure where to look though.

if u think that punchy is the best lynch rn, id start by looking at who hes been interacting with and who hes been possibly avoiding, double points if theyre dead

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idk im still not good at any of this lol
 
if u think that punchy is the best lynch rn, id start by looking at who hes been interacting with and who hes been possibly avoiding, double points if theyre dead

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idk im still not good at any of this lol
I'm not sure if Punchy is the best lynch either.

Same here. I'm just a newbie at this game. I feel a little bit of a drive loss after Dolby and Jacob died. :X
 
if hes using me why would he sr me? wouldnt that make me less likely to want to defend his actions?
I don't really know how to explain the psychology behind it, but the tendency to scumread someone who's townreading you even though you're scummy if often a scum motive to make person B look bad when person A flips scum but that method never actually works. Dolby made a good point earlier about how if Punchy was town, he'd be grasping at any chance to be saved by siding with anyone who townreads him.
like i said, i still need to take a deeper look into them, but off the top of my head:

vanessa: been really agreeable this game while simultaniously not really providing any kind of new arguments, was on the dolby bw for a bit then jumped off when it started to get debunked, is now on the punchy bw and is mostly sheeping this game. plus locket was acting a bit odd before she got replaced

evan: i used to sr, then i tr a bit, now im back to kinda sr him. his reasons for sr have been either non existent and faulty, and hes been mostly agreeing with other ppl and trying to coast it seems. still kinda unsure but the fact that dad thinks he might be scum too makes me a bit more sure since it would be much easier for him to just like him in order to push a lynch on glow if dad and evan are either teamed or dad is town and evan is scum

amanda: has been kinda coasting so far, but that might just be legitimately bc shes been busy, so idk. i put this as a maybe bc its still kinda hard to form a read on her so far, but ill try and take a look

heyden: has been really agreeable with other ppl so far and might be coasting, plus he got sussed by antonio who i think should be townlock pretty much with tom and dolbys reveals as opposite allignments, but idk its a maybe

theres probably other ppl im missing atm, i still am not sure about ppl like dad and glow and stuff like that, theyre too good for me to properly analyse tbh lol

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dolby u havent even posted ur goodbye post yet : (
Yeah I have sort've been coasting but I generally tend to get townread easily regardless of my alignment. Also Antonio didn't really sus me it was more of an OMGUS list of the people who scumread him. Yes Antonio's probably town but that doesn't mean his judgement is necessarily town motivated, cos he sort of seems to be playing for himself.

Also Dolby's on a plane, rip when he lands in Iceland lol
 
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