Mafia Call the Ships to Port: Game Thread - END GAME - TOWN VICTORY!

What do you mean things I did or didn't say ? What about the things Dad said because honestly with the way he was trying to bring up how he doesn't Townread Antonio as much anymore & how he isn't sure why people aren't including him anymore, it just looks like he's trying to keep the sus pool bigger for himself so chances of a mislynch would be higher.

Who do you want to see lynched tomorrow out of the following names: Ryumia, Dad, iLoveYou, Heyden, Antonio
Those are the players who are yet to be confirmed.



Also, why would Panda the survivor want to vote out Trundle instead of No Lynch ? Looking back, that's not even a good move to make if she was trying to survive because it would be too risky to just vote out someone when people are calling for No Lynch. So either way she's not even helping us. Panda why did you choose to vote Trundle over No Lynch ?

Answering the bolder sections in order from top to bottom :

1. I apologise, I worded that poorly. There was something I saw when I read back that struck me as odd that I hadn't seen you comment upon, in addition to how focused you seemed to be on talking about Antonio (along with Dad, to be fair). I'm still mulling over it as the more I re-read (past tense) that content, the more I had to go back through your other content. I'm not trying to be cryptic, I'm sorry, I just need to be thorough about this to try and work out if I'm on the right track or not.

2. I won't be forgetting about Dad, I assure you. That possibility (of him just trying to keep the scum-pool larger to increase the chance of a ML) had occurred to me, too.

3. In descending order of who I'd most want to see lynched tomorrow (rn) from that list :

Dad, Heyden, iLoveYou, Antonio, Ryumia

- Antonio and Ryumia are a long way behind the first three in terms of scummy-ness so far as I'm concerned. I haven't written up enough (about why) to post yet but I'm working on it.

4. Idk, and I'm really not inclined to spend any time trying to figure it out because we'll see Panda's flip tomorrow and she's either Survivor or Mafia at this point. If she's Mafia, her play is confusing but I highly doubt she'd volunteer any info that could help either way given she's already voted for her own lynch.

May I ask why *you* are spending time trying to work out why she made that choice? That seems like quite a random thing to focus on at LYLO.

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Is that a smiley face at the top of my post? In what looks like a header?? That wasn't intentional, I have no idea how to even do that sorry.
 
What do you mean things I did or didn't say ? What about the things Dad said because honestly with the way he was trying to bring up how he doesn't Townread Antonio as much anymore & how he isn't sure why people aren't including him anymore, it just looks like he's trying to keep the sus pool bigger for himself so chances of a mislynch would be higher.

Someone isn't caught up. Shook the feelings about Antonio off.

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By "pageant answer" I'm guessing you're referring to beauty pageants and therefore mean that my words were too pat, slick, practiced, whatever. That's not really a critique I've received before but I'll take it on board.

I was sincere by the way. I'm sorry that wasn't clear ; I usually signpost sarcasm quite clearly in a situation like this just for the record. "Overly polite" is my default, from both temperament and training.

Why are you being polite on the internet? Again I just dislike it in general when you have this appeasing personality coming through in your posting style but I guess others who have played with you can weigh in on whether or not the tone is off.
 
Someone isn't caught up. Shook the feelings about Antonio off.

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Why are you being polite on the internet? Again I just dislike it in general when you have this appeasing personality coming through in your posting style but I guess others who have played with you can weigh in on whether or not the tone is off.

In a very quick turn-around from my perspective.
 
I agree with this, as a Survivor you're obviously gonna try and take the most neutral position as possible to avoid being lynched and to avoid being nightkilled, Panda only brought more attention to herself by voting Trundle whether he would flip town or mafia, which is why I kinda think she won't flip Survivor anyway.

She did soft earlier (idk if you'd consider it a soft actually but), and she was all like 'pls don't die pls don't die', but meh I don't really care what she flips as long as it isn't town

Why wouldn't you hope it's mafia if you feel this way about her and keep finding reasons to see Panda as sus (although tbh that's part of why I found her sus, what you just said)?

Also in general to that vague ass response to us criticizing it: stop being distracting because that's what it is. I'd love for someone else to point out wtf you're talking about?
 
In a very quick turn-around from my perspective.

Yep. Because I remembered that Gig also irrationally wanted to lynch Antonio and posted literally nothing else. And that was alongside Mog. And how nobody defended him as has been pointed out.

Also, you're acting like Antonio was my top scumread. I only had some unease about him because I was reevaluating for D5 and I noticed that when ISOing Panda. All I said was that he was no longer my towniest read among all the unclears, but as I reconsider some of those things and how I find you nearing the top of my suspects, Antonio and Ryumia switch places in that regard.

Ya'll are really trying hard to prime me as tomorrow's go-to lynch and given most of the playerlist seems to air that they're looking at lynching me, guess it's working, but eh maybe someone with brains will second-think their scumread on me.

And I can hella see an Amanda and Kayla partnership.

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But I'm less and less seeing Heyden and Amanda as on the same team. :/
 
4. Idk, and I'm really not inclined to spend any time trying to figure it out because we'll see Panda's flip tomorrow and she's either Survivor or Mafia at this point. If she's Mafia, her play is confusing but I highly doubt she'd volunteer any info that could help either way given she's already voted for her own lynch.

May I ask why *you* are spending time trying to work out why she made that choice? That seems like quite a random thing to focus on at LYLO.

There's not a lot happening during this Day phase if you haven't noticed so it gives us a lot of time to go over scenarios like Panda claiming survivor. That thought crossed my mind. Why is it random for you ? Why do you even care that I posted about that ? What does that change for you ? Discussion is beneficial. Maybe the timing is late, but I didn't even think about it until then and why wouldn't you bring up the fact that no one else has even mentioned that ? Instead you focus on the fact that someone did bring it up and try to play it off as random.

Someone isn't caught up. Shook the feelings about Antonio off.

Didn't that happen after I explained to you why we were removing Antonio from the list ? It's like you needed to be cornered until you decided to remove Antonio from your list of sus which doesn't make sense unless you are trying to keep the sus pool large for yourself.

Ya'll are really trying hard to prime me as tomorrow's go-to lynch and given most of the playerlist seems to air that they're looking at lynching me, guess it's working, but eh maybe someone with brains will second-think their scumread on me.

And I can hella see an Amanda and Kayla partnership.

Why would any of the last 3 mafias try to partner up in any way during this time ? That's too obvious of a mafia-tell if we tried pushing for your lynch together. If the mafia team was able to blue snipe do you really think they would be so dumb as to push for a single lynch together ? Nice try.

If anything I think you & Amanda are a team and are constantly trying to set me up to be lynched by making me look extra mafia-like. That includes Kermits' dumb vote on me. Your whole damn team has been trying to make me look bad all game. Why am I not surprised the Amanda / Dad show is featuring a bussing theme amongst you both at this time ? You guys are obviously distancing yourselves. That's funny that Amanda wants to lynch you the most. If Amanda gets lynched as mafia you can easily play that off like " oh look she is mafia and wants to lynch me so I am Town ". Again, nice try.
 
Didn't that happen after I explained to you why we were removing Antonio from the list ? It's like you needed to be cornered until you decided to remove Antonio from your list of sus which doesn't make sense unless you are trying to keep the sus pool large for yourself.



Why would any of the last 3 mafias try to partner up in any way during this time ? That's too obvious of a mafia-tell if we tried pushing for your lynch together. If the mafia team was able to blue snipe do you really think they would be so dumb as to push for a single lynch together ? Nice try.

If anything I think you & Amanda are a team and are constantly trying to set me up to be lynched by making me look extra mafia-like. That includes Kermits' dumb vote on me. Your whole damn team has been trying to make me look bad all game. Why am I not surprised the Amanda / Dad show is featuring a bussing theme amongst you both at this time ? You guys are obviously distancing yourselves. That's funny that Amanda wants to lynch you the most. If Amanda gets lynched as mafia you can easily play that off like " oh look she is mafia and wants to lynch me so I am Town ". Again, nice try.

#1) You still posted as if I was still suspecting Antonio and basing your push on that until this last post. Also I did change my mind because you yourself pushed me out of that moment of paranoia by reminding me about how nobody was defending Antonio and I was already sus of Amanda at that moment and recalled the Gig thing as well.

#2) 3 MAFIA WOULD PARTNER UP AT LYLO, YOU WIN IF YOU MISLYNCH AND THE TARGET IS VULNERABLE. The **** kinda excuse is this?

#3) I'm consistently setting you up to be lynched by trying to make you look extra mafia-like? Read through this damn game and point out one time in my entire play where you were my #1 suspect. You're still the #3 suspect for me, but I might be partial to switching your place with Heyden's after this post tbh.

#4) Nice mention of the Kermit vote. That **** is bringing me to the VINEYARD there's so much wine. Kermit voting you is probably the sloppiest moment of this entire team's play. It was deliberate af and you weren't even Kermit's top scumread and she even said so.
 
Look I'm going to play devils advocate here, I really don't think Dad and Amanda are mafia. Ill post something after class
 
#2) 3 MAFIA WOULD PARTNER UP AT LYLO, YOU WIN IF YOU MISLYNCH AND THE TARGET IS VULNERABLE. The **** kinda excuse is this?

#3) I'm consistently setting you up to be lynched by trying to make you look extra mafia-like? Read through this damn game and point out one time in my entire play where you were my #1 suspect. You're still the #3 suspect for me, but I might be partial to switching your place with Heyden's after this post tbh.

#4) Nice mention of the Kermit vote. That **** is bringing me to the VINEYARD there's so much wine. Kermit voting you is probably the sloppiest moment of this entire team's play. It was deliberate af and you weren't even Kermit's top scumread and she even said so.

2. So you're really going to sit there and say mafia would push a lynch together WHEN THERE IS LITERALLY ONLY 5 REMAINING SUSPECTS ? Everyone else is a supposed confirmed blue. If there are 3 mafias left don't you think that would become too obvious ?

3. Slowly each one of your mafia teammates were throwing seeds of doubt onto me throughout the game. It would have looked too obvious if you suddenly switched from Glow to me, so obviously you're the least one to have placed seeds onto me. If anything you're right I was mainly speaking of your team in general.

4. Of course I'm going to mention that. It's so obvious what the intention was there. I absolutely agree that it was the dumbest move for the mafia to try to pull on me thinking they would fool people.

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Look I'm going to play devils advocate here, I really don't think Dad and Amanda are mafia. Ill post something after class

You can't be serious right now lols
 
2. So you're really going to sit there and say mafia would push a lynch together WHEN THERE IS LITERALLY ONLY 5 REMAINING SUSPECTS ? Everyone else is a supposed confirmed blue. If there are 3 mafias left don't you think that would become too obvious ?

3. Slowly each one of your mafia teammates were throwing seeds of doubt onto me throughout the game. It would have looked too obvious if you suddenly switched from Glow to me, so obviously you're the least one to have placed seeds onto me. If anything you're right I was mainly speaking of your team in general.

4. Of course I'm going to mention that. It's so obvious what the intention was there. I absolutely agree that it was the dumbest move for the mafia to try to pull on me thinking they would fool people.

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You can't be serious right now lols

#2) I'm not saying it couldn't be happening, at least with 2/3 of the remaining mafia. And it could even happen with all 3 but that won't be as bold until tomorrow. But like I said in regards to lylo, if there's one more mislynch, team doesn't have to worry about damage control because it's game over.

#3) There's a big ass difference of doubt and having you as #1suspectplslynchher. But if we're gonna say I'm teamed with someone, mention who else is on my team and when specifically they were even spreading 'seeds of doubt' on you nevertheless want you lynched.

#4) You were nobody's #1 suspect when she did that vote. You weren't even her #1 suspect.

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well she isn't my top 3 but out of everyone else i think she's next. just a feeling while reading the thread that she's floating by as well as what happened right when i replaced into the game.

In case you need a reference.
 
lol ILY """floating by"""

wtf kermit

ANYWAY

I think dad's logic about what mafia would do makes more sense, but ILY is probably right on how scum is trying to make her look bad, and honestly dad looks worse after his interactions with ILY. Also dad switching from antonio just looks like the scumteam has given up trying to sus/lynch Antonio, given town's mood. So while dad has produced some strong content, he always does as either alignment, and based on interactions with confirmed towns and scum, I think dad is likely to be scum
 
I think dad's logic about what mafia would do makes more sense, but ILY is probably right on how scum is trying to make her look bad, and honestly dad looks worse after his interactions with ILY

HOW

Honestly out of the 3 lead-potential people I pissed off the most at some point in the game (you, glow, Ness) I fully expected you and glow to be hardheaded about it. But good god how are you seeing Kayla's side on this? At least see if she's even able to point out that people wanted to lynch her or had her as their highest suspect at any point in the game, Evan. Because she's done a great job at acting and getting townread.
 
FYI Dad Amanda is always very polite, that's not a mafia strategy or anything. She's just a really nice person

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Heyden is confusing the heck out of me which tbh he usually does as town, not that I don't think he could be mafia
 
#2) I'm not saying it couldn't be happening, at least with 2/3 of the remaining mafia. And it could even happen with all 3 but that won't be as bold until tomorrow. But like I said in regards to lylo, if there's one more mislynch, team doesn't have to worry about damage control because it's game over.

#3) There's a big ass difference of doubt and having you as #1suspectplslynchher. But if we're gonna say I'm teamed with someone, mention who else is on my team and when specifically they were even spreading 'seeds of doubt' on you nevertheless want you lynched.

#4) You were nobody's #1 suspect when she did that vote. You weren't even her #1 suspect.

2) There's no way even 2-3 / 5 of the sus pool would push together for a lynch. That's way too obvious when all the players are keeping a magnifying glass over us ( the last 5 ). I do see your point about how another mislynch leads to them not having to worry about the damage control but they have to convince 10 or however many other players and at that point it comes off like they are partnering. Especially if those 2-3 / 5 came from the sus pool. I really don't believe the mafia team would risk that.

3) Like I said, your team planted seeds of doubt on me throughout the game starting with Tom ( when he said I was hungry for blood ) then Kermit. The only other people i think can be on your team at this point is Amanda / Ryumia / Panda. Look at what Amanda is doing ? Look at how perfectly she set you up to say " oh wow Amanda and Kayla pushing for my lynch, they must be mafia !! ". That's not a coincidence. If she is mafia she's definitely distancing herself from you. I said you and Amanda are trying to get me lynched because of the way you two are playing now. This is the Dad / Amanda show at its finest.

4) No but I'm sure she voted me to get people to think & doubt after she flipped mafia. I'm not saying " omg you guys made me your #1 suspect all game ", I'm saying you guys threw seeds of doubt on me all game that ultimately led me here into this position.
 
HOW

Honestly out of the 3 lead-potential people I pissed off the most at some point in the game (you, glow, Ness) I fully expected you and glow to be hardheaded about it. But good god how are you seeing Kayla's side on this? At least see if she's even able to point out that people wanted to lynch her or had her as their highest suspect at any point in the game, Evan. Because she's done a great job at acting and getting townread.

See that's the point. Of course scum is not going to put her as the "top suspect." Ik I've done this before as scum: say something about a player that makes them look slightly sus, then blow it up/expand on it later on towards end game. This keeps options open for mislynch pushes

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4) No but I'm sure she voted me to get people to think & doubt after she flipped mafia. I'm not saying " omg you guys made me your #1 suspect all game ", I'm saying you guys threw seeds of doubt on me all game that ultimately led me here into this position.
she probably voted you, thinking her blue gambit was going to work
 
KermitTea said:
well she isn't my top 3 but out of everyone else i think she's next. just a feeling while reading the thread that she's floating by as well as what happened right when i replaced into the game.
Idk whose side I'm on in the Great Dad vs Kayla Debate of 2k18 but I don't think anyone should clear Kayla based off of Kermit voting for her, this vote was weak and random as kracko as Dad pointed out. And seeing how Tom voted for Mog/Kermit/Scum randomly D1 the mafia team is clearly not afraid of voting for their teammates

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Also I don't think Antonio or Ryumia is scum.
 
Idk whose side I'm on in the Great Dad vs Kayla Debate of 2k18 but I don't think anyone should clear Kayla based off of Kermit voting for her, this vote was weak and random as kracko as Dad pointed out. And seeing how Tom voted for Mog/Kermit/Scum randomly D1 the mafia team is clearly not afraid of voting for their teammates

See this is what I meant when I said Kermits vote on me would get people to have doubts and think. Seeds of doubt. Vanessa do you really think the mafia team would repeat that moment twice in a game ?
 
See this is what I meant when I said Kermits vote on me would get people to have doubts and think. Seeds of doubt. Vanessa do you really think the mafia team would repeat that moment twice in a game ?

I mean Kermit was pretty inactive, she could have done it without discussing with everyone. She may have just popped in to avoid getting modkilled. I do see your point about how it could be a reverse psychology attempt to make you look bad, but it could also not be that, if you know what I mean.
 
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