Alright, gonna temporarily go forward on the assumption that Kate was oath's vig kill and that somebody got saved. It just makes more sense that way (even taking into account bluesniping attempts, Kate wasn't really a good kill from that perspective either).
Townlocks
Rune
Fire
Both of them are following their town metas astonishingly well at this point if they are scum. Rune has especially put forward good contributions, and I would honestly be shocked if he was scum. With all that vote switching yesterday, I honestly don't see many plausible worlds in which Fireninja could be scum, or his purpose in doing so (especially since Antonio came out sussing him (my main caveat about the situation). Also, if Antonio is scum and bussing anybody of his sus list, it is almost 100% Gig. No way he's bussing Heyden or FN given their reactions.)
Townleans
Iloveyou - I don't feel that I need to explain this honestly. Though I still feel that there's the possibility that she's tricking me
Punchy - Punchy has honestly been saying all the right since slightly before the end of Day One (except for the "don't vote Ryumia", which I found weird but not uncharacteristic(especially given that Ryu was a far more recent wagon). Even his kneejerk reactions to Fireninja felt absurdly like new town. If Ryu is scum though he's definetely dropping WAY down my list
Panda - I can definetely go more in-depth to this if people need me to. This seems more like a rushed to read town Panda, versus the even less Panda of last game
Kammm-Pretty sure that this is new town. Kinda feel that if she were maf she would be somewhat paralyzed by indecision on what makes her look best. Moreover, she's taking solid decisions now, which I definetely like
Dad - Yeah, I'm siding with him in Dad/Glow
There are frankly so many people on my null list that I'm having a hard time sorting them out within. My top susses though are Tom, Locket, and Glow in that order. Tom's play has really been a letdown so far. His contributions have been lacking at best. He's barely said anything. Locket has been distinctly different from last game or even the one before, and because I have the time to do it, I'm going to give a comparison between now and APM for her
And as I say yesterday, the lack of focus on Locket should really point some things out. Barely anybody considered her seriously after I left (Heyden kind of, and Toads, now dead). And as I pointed out, Locket was honestly an easy target if maf wanted the lynch off of Antonio, and honestly I feel the natural one. All the arguments against Antonio applied even more so to Locket. And again, I feel that discussion on her was shut down fairly quick
Townlocks
Rune
Fire
Both of them are following their town metas astonishingly well at this point if they are scum. Rune has especially put forward good contributions, and I would honestly be shocked if he was scum. With all that vote switching yesterday, I honestly don't see many plausible worlds in which Fireninja could be scum, or his purpose in doing so (especially since Antonio came out sussing him (my main caveat about the situation). Also, if Antonio is scum and bussing anybody of his sus list, it is almost 100% Gig. No way he's bussing Heyden or FN given their reactions.)
Townleans
Iloveyou - I don't feel that I need to explain this honestly. Though I still feel that there's the possibility that she's tricking me
Punchy - Punchy has honestly been saying all the right since slightly before the end of Day One (except for the "don't vote Ryumia", which I found weird but not uncharacteristic(especially given that Ryu was a far more recent wagon). Even his kneejerk reactions to Fireninja felt absurdly like new town. If Ryu is scum though he's definetely dropping WAY down my list
Panda - I can definetely go more in-depth to this if people need me to. This seems more like a rushed to read town Panda, versus the even less Panda of last game
Kammm-Pretty sure that this is new town. Kinda feel that if she were maf she would be somewhat paralyzed by indecision on what makes her look best. Moreover, she's taking solid decisions now, which I definetely like
Dad - Yeah, I'm siding with him in Dad/Glow
There are frankly so many people on my null list that I'm having a hard time sorting them out within. My top susses though are Tom, Locket, and Glow in that order. Tom's play has really been a letdown so far. His contributions have been lacking at best. He's barely said anything. Locket has been distinctly different from last game or even the one before, and because I have the time to do it, I'm going to give a comparison between now and APM for her
Locket D1 was really inactive in APM, even more so than in this game. But even then, her content has been better and far more definitive than it has been here
Very definitive here, from APM. This is practically her first post of the game, and takes a very solid stance.
Versus in this game
Tbh, this is the best content that she's had all game. She's kind of solid on Ness v Toads, but doesn't make a definitive position on either, leaving room to wiggle a sus out of Ness in the future. On Fireninja, she doesn't even provide a statement one way or the other
Continueing through this game, she really doesn't say much else that actually helps town
I think what she is doing here stands in very sharp contrast to what she did in APM as a townie, but that's going to come out later
In all fairness, she technically did end up doing it
Now let's get back to what I said earlier about Locket. "in very sharp contrast to APM". Despite the forum being glitched as all hell and despite not being able to complete them fully, Locket delibrately posts her full reads before EoD (it being her first post in over 24 hours then).
This was honestly kinda the slip that I was talking about earlier, because Locket in the past few games as town as sought to give reads fairly early delibrately
(I might be late, haven't been able to read yet)
Why is Dolby so high on your town reads? It's the beginning of the game. Your town/scum leans shouldn't be full on.
From what I've read, Punchy is scum-lean and a Dolby/Punchy team may be present.
Very definitive here, from APM. This is practically her first post of the game, and takes a very solid stance.
Versus in this game
The Ness v Toads thing that happened feels like Town v Town to me. Though, Ness breaking like that is pretty strange.
FN is pretty weird in his posts. He refuses to elaborate a lot. He doesn't have a lot of good contributions so far.
I'll add more later but I've had a long couple of days so I'm gonna rest a bit.
Tbh, this is the best content that she's had all game. She's kind of solid on Ness v Toads, but doesn't make a definitive position on either, leaving room to wiggle a sus out of Ness in the future. On Fireninja, she doesn't even provide a statement one way or the other
Continueing through this game, she really doesn't say much else that actually helps town
@Punchy Stop. You did this last game and it got us nowhere. Get on track, stop saying you're being stupid. Don't go for your own lynch.
It's not.
This in particular caught my eye. In reference to Punchy and Fireninja. It's really a weak statement, and noncommittal, but keeps both FN and Punchy on her plate, while stepping back from blame should one of them have been lynched. this looks particularly egregious to me since I'm townleaning both of them.Let's move on for now, but keep them both in mind.
Quick updates: I've been going through posts all day and probably do need to put out some reads. I'll put them out as soon as I can. I am a little busy with homework and school in general. If anyone has people they want my opinions on I could probably give some quick opinions.
I think what she is doing here stands in very sharp contrast to what she did in APM as a townie, but that's going to come out later
Actually reminded me that she didn't end up voting, despite apparently being onlineWhat timezone?
If you're doing EST/CST (or around there) I was at school.
I started going though posts ~6pm EST and went to be with friends for a bit.
I have school from 10am to 5pm EST. I'm not active before 10am.
She's really making it to easy for me honestly. She's bandwagoning off what's going on within the thread on a popular opinion that just arose, and even uses similar language. Evan even used ominious in two of his four bullet-point responses two minutes prior to thisRyu's answers are definitely ominous. I'll look into her as soon as I get home (on the bus right now so it should be soon.)
Gonna see what I think about her posts even though there isn't a lot
In all fairness, she technically did end up doing it
HUGE red flag here. Rather than choose to scumhunt or address the prospect of Ryu being town vs Ryu being scum, Locket instead focuses on her being a jester, which really should be the focus on what she's doing. Jester was a popular theory at the time, but there is really no excuse for not looking into if somebody is scummyHer posts don't seem like they could be jester until the one where she answered questions.
Now let's get back to what I said earlier about Locket. "in very sharp contrast to APM". Despite the forum being glitched as all hell and despite not being able to complete them fully, Locket delibrately posts her full reads before EoD (it being her first post in over 24 hours then).
I?ve finally finished reading through the posts.
Town-leans:
Dolby
Punchy
Trying to lie about the whole thing would be nearly impossible if they were scum. If there was any lies in what they?re saying about being masons (or something along those lines,) someone would?ve have spoken out against them.
Ness
Ness has claimed blue, and if he was scum he would?ve been caught in a lie (like Dolby/Punchy)
Very slight town-leans:
Vanessa
Tina
Vanessa defending me would be a weird thing to do if she were scum.
Tina seems like town. Her reads, I feel, were legitimate.
Null:
Bianca
Bianca is sussing people, which I find is normal for her. Her posts are very simple and short.
Slight scum-lean:
--- More later
Scum-leans:
--- More later
Dolby would be a safe choice, but Ness is a smart choice.
This was quickly put together. I'm going to read some more posts and post my scum-leans later.
This was honestly kinda the slip that I was talking about earlier, because Locket in the past few games as town as sought to give reads fairly early delibrately
And as I say yesterday, the lack of focus on Locket should really point some things out. Barely anybody considered her seriously after I left (Heyden kind of, and Toads, now dead). And as I pointed out, Locket was honestly an easy target if maf wanted the lynch off of Antonio, and honestly I feel the natural one. All the arguments against Antonio applied even more so to Locket. And again, I feel that discussion on her was shut down fairly quick