Mafia Call the Ships to Port: Game Thread - END GAME - TOWN VICTORY!

[iLoveYou]

You guys choosing to do a lynch on Dolby to find out whether Tom is mafia, is horrible. I'm against it.

 

[Heyden]

First of all Dolby I never townread or sided with you in the first place unless I'm delusional. What posts did Vanessa copy btw?
Also the last time I recall you made a read on Tom was that he was 'null', so I'm interested in what you mean by change of play style for him.

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Jacob was probably given a 2nd vote by someone he's friends I'm gonna assume. The most logical double vote should've gone to Dad or iLoveYou imo.

 

[iLoveYou]

Jacob was probably given a 2nd vote by someone he's friends I'm gonna assume. The most logical double vote should've gone to Dad or iLoveYou imo.

THANK YOU. I agree.

 

[Dolby]

Also I did want to say that I don't think Tom should be the lynch candidate for today unless he starts talking, we just saw what lynching an inactive looks like. META on Tom's activity is pretty obsolete in a game with like 21 players left

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And to further that sentiment I THINK mafia would be really on board lynching Tom if he isn't out to save himself, he's a really valuable lynch if he does turn out to be town.

I'd be much more ok lynching ryumia over Tom should it come down to the two

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ALSO who's to say that Tom's being active in the scum chat? If he's ignoring the thread and getting sussed over it to the point of being voted, why would he only be active in the scum chat? He wouldn't have helped with the kills at all, and would be deadweight to mafia team.

I am not ok with lynching Tom unless he talks. The number of people already voting for him not even halfway through the day is concerning to me. He is a little suspicious to me because even in Kingmaker, where he was pretty inactive, he posted more than this, but I think we should at least see if he posts content before the lynch before making our minds up. Idk why he would be so obviously scummy as scum, he's a good player

Like, how has nobody noticed this by now. She piggybacked off of Jacob here 15 minutes after he posted that.

Hi all, I?ve promised you some reads and won?t deliver on those right this moment (SoonTM). Just caught up with the game so I?m mostly mulling over the deaths at the moment. Three votes on me is disappointing, but not entirely unexpected along with threats of more to come. I do think it?s really interesting that Kayla (iLoveYou) is super eager lynch me though, especially without knowing my recent meta? Dolby I get, he expects more from me, but Kayla seems really eager for blood ya know?

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This is even worse than when you refused to claim as townie in OW mafia

About The Godfathers (TM)
One of Dolby, Dad, and glow is 100% scum in my eyes. Idk who else would think Oath was blue. The pure fact that there were two blues killed makes me eye Dolby, and frankly I find him the most suspicious of these three. I don't like how he just agreed with Dad about glow but didn't really look into her himself, I know he defended himself on that already but I just don't like it! Glow is the second most sus of the group. I was a bit confused why she would say "oh if I was maf I would kill oath" as maf, but maybe it's a reverse psychology tactic. I don't like how she's just been tunneling Dad the whole game. Dad is the least sus of the three but I've still got my eye on him. Oh and I wouldn't rule out two of them being scum either.

This is definetely copied from something someone said earlier about who was potentially bluesniping. Don't remember who it was

1. They didn't think he was blue (Dolby magic!)
2. Willing to take the risk to secure a non-mafia lynch
3. That's all I got idek

Maybe they had toads pinned as blue too who even KNOWS

Also do you really think Scum Tom would go this long without posting anything decent and getting this much suspicion thrown onto him?

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I still believe Kate was Oath's shot I don't know what scum would kill her
Maybe whoever was saved just didn't want to come forwards. Or maybe there was a roleblock

Do you think Town Tom would?

i dont really wanna say more and endanger tom, but i think its probably ok to put everything out if the mafia team knows as much as i think they do

Please don't take the same mentality that Glow did that sussing town members leads to bluesniping

Am I a sheep if I say I wouldn't mind lynching Dolby as well.

Tbh, this is more fine than I initially made it out to be

Dolby lynch hype train go go go

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I know he is out tonight, hopefully he will post soon

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No matter what? Even if he comes with some really good reads?

Tbh, I am kinda sus of the amount of people who seemed to be pleading to get the lynch off of Tom

i don't

even if i had a read on him i wouldnt say it

And why wouldn't you

Dolby was scum in Smash 2 mafia. He also N1'd the detective that game. Coincidence? I THINK NOT.

Oh yeah, this is what I really didn't like about Heyden

I really don't know Ness I said in my reads post I suss Dolby and I proved his blue sniping abilities and I think it made ppl realize how scummy he is
I feel like one or two ppl were suspicious before that too

Are you really going to make the focus not on my content, but oath and Toads dying

Few things (this was written during the middle of this post and placed towards the bottom delibrately). I kinda want to TL Ness for being more of the voice of reason there. But I feel that things would be a lot simpler if I just were able to assume Antonio was one alightment or the other

I'm gonna hold of reading Trundle until when/if he posts full reads

 

[Jacob]

Who the **** would give Jacob double voting power to there of all people.

Ouch, where did that come from?

Is it because I'm ok using them both on you?

 

[Dolby]

Ouch, where did that come from?

Is it because I'm ok using them both on you?

No, it's because I can't think of a single person who had you as strong town N1, and it's honestly been driving me crazy

 

[Geoni]

The ironic thing is that now that I have hit my days off I am less invested in the game. Having nothing else to do at work is what made me do the google doc thing lol. I'm going to just quote and respond as I read, so bare with me if I criticize something that I will later see ended up getting addressed and clarified.

 

[illunie]

the way i see it there are two options at the moment in terms of scumteams:

the dolby/kayla/maybe antonio, ness and/or glow? scumteam

or the team which contains tom and people protecting him (maybe vanessa/heyden)

either way, we can determine a lot from a dolby lynch, and get a lot of info (plus i personally sr him even in a vaccuum)

 

[Jacob]

No, it's because I can't think of a single person who had you as strong town N1, and it's honestly been driving me crazy

There's always a posibility of it being randomized, and if a smart player had the power to give it out, they would probably recognize that whoever I vote could help determine my role over a player better at hiding their roles. If I could give out that kind of power I'd give it to a very average player too- no one too good, no noob. And seeing as you had me town leaned at least a little, betting on me was smart. Speaking theoretically.

 

[illunie]

There's always a posibility of it being randomized, and if a smart player had the power to give it out, they would probably recognize that whoever I vote could help determine my role over a player better at hiding their roles. If I could give out that kind of power I'd give it to a very average player too- no one too good, no noob. And seeing as you had me town leaned at least a little, betting on me was smart. Speaking theoretically.

i dont think theres a world where someone has a role where they just randomly hand out doublevotes, im 99 percent sure it was an intentional thing

 

[Geoni]

This is what ryumia originally said that set off my alarm bells about hostile TP/scumslipping. playing to win for your ROLE heavily implies ryu is hostile TP, since TPs play to win on their own conditions, as opposed to a factional wincon for town/mafia. But then I looked at the one game she played before this and she said something very similar as town, so that significantly weakens my argument

Then why bring it up? I feel like it's kind of reachy to go after her for this specific reason because that specific quote means she's TP because saying 'The objective is to win for your role after all' doesn't mean TP, because every role comes with a win condition at the end of it so for a very new player to say that makes sense. Hence why I can see it as reachy to say it's a slip.

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Dolby>Dad>Kayla>Glow in terms of scumminess, IMO, and Tom hasn't posted enough for me to put him anywhere on that.

In your opinion? So explain the opinion. I fail to see how both myself and Kayla are scummier than glow.

 

[Dolby]

Also the last time I recall you made a read on Tom was that he was 'null', so I'm interested in what you mean by change of play style for him.

Tom has honestly been pretty useless thus far, and I don't think I'm going to far to call him reactionary (particularly in his latest post). But he's been notably silent, even in comparison to OW mafia, probably the least involved he's been in a recent game (bar games in which he was replaced). It isn't so much a tone change, but a change in willingness to be useful. When he was being lynched in OW on D1 he sought to make full reads and pressured Endless (even though it was based on a misinterpretation that he refused to drop), and actively tried to hunt scum

Wheras this game he's been making really short posts and hasn't even made a definitive stance. The one post that there's even a semblance of an attempt to also reminds me of some of his stuff in AoT

What’s up guys its ya boi DJ Atomica coming atcha from Crash.fm

[url-“http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...hread&p=7827240&viewfull=1#post7827240”]@Ness in response to this post:[/url] YUP. Why bother putting time and effort into getting an inactive killed when I can sit here and wait for ya’ll to panic lynch like we’ve seemed to do the last couple games.

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?446202-Call-the-Ships-to-Port-Game-Thread&p=7827414&viewfull=1#post7827414”]@Trundle in response to this post:[/url] I dunno if this is the post you mentioned as a call or if it’s a different one, but I’m not sure what you’re expecting from me? Ya’ll know I don’t take D1 seriously like at all, I think they’re the most boring part of the game. I like looking at the kills and then trying to tie back to people.

Also lmao at you guys trying to tie me memeing around to another meme I did in AoT Mafia. I guess though that means the meme is stale, shame. I’ll have to be more creative when it comes to jokeposts.

I don’t get why Dad is getting sussed for actually trying to figure the game out either, I like his stuff and I’m willing to sheep the dadster today.

Still I think we'd all appreciate a little more effort going forth? Her explaining her five susses is a good start already.

Going to mimic what Trundle said and wonder why you think you're important enough to constantly N1? People who get N1 constantly tend to get worse due to lack of play.

Sorry, would you like more RQS so I seem more helpful to you? Or would you like me to take charge of leading a lynch, probably a mislynch so I better fit your narrative? I'd rather prod folks until I find something I'm confident about.

Or to your team. �� If we're up against a 5 man mafia team (Which is most likely), that three KP is going to butter someone's biscuits.

A) Try your best so we all suceed
B) You were headed in the right direction and someone can pickup your slack where you left off.

It tries to mimic being helpful town but really doesn't leave any definitive stances on players. Rather than take a stance on Glow, he specially aggrevates her here. In both posts her, he's merely poking holes into what others have said about him

Also, his posting is really fluffed up in both cases. I consider useless discussion about how the game should be played to be present with both playstyles

I probably could go far more in-depth tbh

Jacob was probably given a 2nd vote by someone he's friends I'm gonna assume. The most logical double vote should've gone to Dad or iLoveYou imo.

Probably the best explanation that's been posted thus far

 

[Jacob]

Then why bring it up? I feel like it's kind of reachy to go after her for this specific reason because that specific quote means she's TP because saying 'The objective is to win for your role after all' doesn't mean TP, because every role comes with a win condition at the end of it so for a very new player to say that makes sense. Hence why I can see it as reachy to say it's a slip.

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In your opinion? So explain the opinion. I fail to see how both myself and Kayla are scummier than glow.

Glow and I share very similar opinions. She seems genuine to me, thats all the basis for that.

 

[Dolby]

the way i see it there are two options at the moment in terms of scumteams:

the dolby/kayla/maybe antonio, ness and/or glow? scumteam

or the team which contains tom and people protecting him (maybe vanessa/heyden)

either way, we can determine a lot from a dolby lynch, and get a lot of info (plus i personally sr him even in a vaccuum)

yes, 100% agree that this breaks around the people pushing for Tom and Antonio

No, we don't lynch me

 

[PunchyTheCat]

No, we don't lynch me

Claim?

 

[Heyden]

Claim?

If you have nothing useful to say than can you just, not.

Also Rune I don't know why you think I'm pro-Tom.

 

[N e s s]

Guys I found the thing I was talking about
All the blues ended up being right except for f11 who was a survivor

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???

Claim?

Why would he claim he has like 1 vote tops right now

 

[illunie]

yes, 100% agree that this breaks around the people pushing for Tom and Antonio

No, we don't lynch me

im guessing that you think the best lynch candidate is tom, right?
the problem i have with lynching tom is that he really hasnt had the opportunity to post yet, and after the dedenne lynch im very wary of lynching a person for acting differently from their previous meta and for not contributing much, if those are ur only reasons for voting him thus far then it isnt a very compelling case.

 

[Dolby]

Claim?

I don't feel the need to, especially since

1. There haven't been any passable reasons submitted towards why people think I'm scum (bluesniping really isn't one, though I guess "he's playing differently does have some sort of creedance)
2. Town isn't going to lynch for information, they're lynching for scuminess
3. Claiming just gonna narrow down who's green and who's blue

 

[illunie]

If you have nothing useful to say than can you just, not.

Also Rune I don't know why you think I'm pro-Tom.

i was under the impression that u townread him at some point, im sry if i was wrong