idk why that quote was so long, the part im replying to is here:
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um, is that a blue softclaim?
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um, is that a blue softclaim?
Mafia Call the Ships to Port: Game Thread - END GAME - TOWN VICTORY!
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Ooh okay lols. Well I don't really see why people would sheep onto my votes and the latter won't be the case. I'm not the best player here. If anything I would expect people to be listening to someone like Dad or Jacob's ( he got the double voter status after all ) logic in this game.
Everybody who I feel would be protected has been here already
Tom would have said that he was saved if he was
I'm gonna say it again and I'm going to say it a thousand times: If nobody has stated "I was hit last night", then there wasn't a doctor save. If you are saved by a doctor, you have NO REASON to hide it from town because it's an easy confirmation of yours and another player's alignment. It's pretty easy to assume why he's dismissing the "possibility" of a doctor. Even if you're something akin to a Veteran, then there would be an outting for that since said Veteran would just die the next night.
THIS SO MUCH
theres one possibility i can think of, but again im gonna wait until tom comes back
pls don't point out possible blue softclaims you're just making things worse
I don?t think anyone knows what your role is, and whatever you?re implying I hope you just keep your mouth shut about it.
And also, do you have reads? Who you want lynched, who you think is town. I?m sorry but it?s a bit annoying if you?re gonna sit in the corner and vote no lynch and let everyone else decide.
I don't think I have time to make a full reads list right now so I'll just sort people into categories
People I am relatively certain they are town
Rune (very obviously different from scum Rune, I don't think he would make such a giant ISO as he did with Evan as scum)
Kammm (BTW you're playing really really well for your first game!)
Heyden (same tone as in American Politics, very different tone from in RHOM)
FireNinja (his actions at the beginning of the game were kracko and no scum would act like that in my mind)
Ryumia (literally the exact same as in kingmaker)
People who I mostly townlean
Punchy - seems the same as always
Trundle - purely based on tone tbh, he hasn't posted much content. I don't really see scumdle saying things like "why isn't dolby townleaning me"
Ness - Someone (I think Rune?) said he wouldn't be so reluctant to play the game if he was scum, and I agree
Ghostkid - just seems really noob town
Null
Mog
Panda
iLoveYou - I townread her before but I reeeeeally don't like the way she is pushing for Tom
Jacob
About The Godfathers (TM)
One of Dolby, Dad, and glow is 100% scum in my eyes. Idk who else would think Oath was blue. The pure fact that there were two blues killed makes me eye Dolby, and frankly I find him the most suspicious of these three. I don't like how he just agreed with Dad about glow but didn't really look into her himself, I know he defended himself on that already but I just don't like it! Glow is the second most sus of the group. I was a bit confused why she would say "oh if I was maf I would kill oath" as maf, but maybe it's a reverse psychology tactic. I don't like how she's just been tunneling Dad the whole game. Dad is the least sus of the three but I've still got my eye on him. Oh and I wouldn't rule out two of them being scum either.
Concerning
Evan - his tone sounds very towny but I feel like he just keeps flip-flopping!
Antonio - reads make no sense and I don't believe he didn't know what blues are
Gig - do I even need to explain this, who the kracko is inactive and then shows up just to say who they will vote and then doesn't even vote
Tom - but DON'T EVERYONE GO AND VOTE FOR HIM HOLD YOUR HORSES YOU EAGER FOLKS LOOK SO SCUMMY YEESH
I guess that's basically a full reads list oops
Tbh, while reading this, I'm kinda concerned that I'm misreading Vampnessa, at least in terms of who she could be scum with. The only person who I natually feel is elevated to high I feel is Heyden and maybe Ghostkid. However, there are still many problems with this post, and I 100% believe that Vampnessa is at least aligned with Tom
Well really now? Stating this, you would at least seem to implying that Tom was a personal townread to you. If you think that Tom is scum (and he's one of FOUR players you actually consider to be concerning), then you SHOULDN'T be concerned about a player who you are townleaning going after one who you sus. This screams red flags all over
Tom apologist honestly. Fails to adaquately explain why he is sus, and already seems to be trying to get the lynch off of him. In fact, the only purpose this read serves to to vault off and try to get some of the sus off of Tom The placement honestly seems like this was written by a genuine town, it would be under null. I think that Tom is being placed under here purely for towncred should both flip scum. The read here is just unnatural.
This specific read feels fake as well. Both Antonio and Gig have clearly defined reasons (which honestly I can see myself agreeing with), yet Vanessa states that "he appears to be town". Probably the least objectionable thing that I wrote about this post, and kinda a weak point, but I did write and thus don't want to delete it
I personally feel that I've got some good meat here to dive into, unlike with any of the other two that I'm looking into. The Tom read which served only to try to get the lynch off of him is one thing, but I honestly object to this so much. I actually don't mind the "two blues dying" bit much, given that at least some town subscribe to the view. But frankly, Dolby/Dad/Glow was copied from someone. I don't remember who it was, but I remember it being directly stated. Second in this though, "I know he defended himself on that already but I just don't like it!". That wasn't even a defense of myself. I admittedly had taken for granted that Dad should honestly have been viewed as appearing more town in that conflict. Glow was frankly tunneling him at that point. What's even worse is Vanessa leaves two reasons for sussing me over everybody else. 1. Two blues died last night. 2. He provided why he sided with Dad over Glow late. She proceeds to go into Glow then, and tbh, her read on Glow is honestly just weird. Like, I honestly don't understand what she's trying to say with the "I would have killed oath"-glow point. I furthur don't like how she diminishes the significance of the Dad tunnel
Tbh, I kinda feel that I'm rambling there at the end with the point on the three godfathers section of her post, but the key takeaways I feel are that Vanessa is not teamed with ILY, she's actively trying to get the lynch off of Tom with her non-read of him, the Evan read is just bad, and Dolby/Dad/Glow was copied from somewhere and I don't remember where, but I remember distinctly that it was stated
How would Dolby's flip indicate what Tom is? If anything the only person who seems to avoid putting heat on Tom is glow.
I see glow/Tom
or Dolby/Trundle/Evan
Off the top of my head.
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And yet you want to look at Dolby's meta, which would already require that you fully read all of his play so far this game in addition? That's even more of a drag ijs.
do u think theres a possibility that dad vs tom is scum vs scum or town vs town? i dont really see it being anything other than town vs scum, and i think that bc of that one of their flips kinda proves the others allignment a bit
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i say vs like tom is fighting back lol
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omg sry not dad i meant dolby
why would i?
if he's town then mafia's leaving us alive to tunnel on each other. if i don't out a read on him mafia will eventually either have to kill one of us or just continue to make sketchy ass kills. both are better than the alternative
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TOP 10 ANIME BETRAYALS
Many players are saying if Dolby's flips red, then they can further determine who is aligned with who based on that outcome. For example, they think I will be red based on Dolby flipping red, which would ultimately lead to Tom being green.
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Oh by the way, if Dolby flips red then i believe Trundle is red too due to what I have been saying ( Trundle hiding behind Dolby & clearing him as confirmed Town on day One for some reason ).
i RELATE to the tiny text this game is overwhelming for me
so. i do think that the question was inherently awful. i do think that he could still be mafia. but, honestly, he definitely genuinely forgot though, which renders it NAI. his posts following were definitely genuine, which doesn't make him town. him fading into the background after that (afaik, i'm still reading through the last several pages) doesn't help though.
Who to lynch? I'm not exactly sure. But... When Dolby was saying that me and evan weren't a team. I was curious about that and it made me want to test the theory out. Basically... Either voting myself or evan.
Reads? Not exactly. But... This is my thoughts as of right now.
Town for me right now:
Kammm/GhostKid - I feel confident that they're town based on how they're playing the game.
Runeraider - I felt that Rune has town best interest to me during the duration of the game.
Vanessa/Ness - This one is based on guts. (I probably shouldn't rely on using guts, but I kind of felt like I don't have much options.)
Jacob - I placed him here due to the fact that he got a double voted.
Null: PandaDarling, mogyay, FireNinja1, Heyden, iLoveYou, and Trundle.
Concerning:
Tom - I'm only a bit worried since he isn't really here. I kind of thought he would be a bit more active...
amazonevan19 - Only because I wanted to test the theory that I was presented by Dolby.
PunchyDaHufflepuff - I'm only a little concern only because he was telling me that there was a "messenger role". He brought up something like: "Did the messenger post a message yet?".
Antonio - 'Cause some mentioned about a slip of some sort relating to scum.
Gigalabesh - Their play-style is something I'm concern about.
Dolby/Dad/glow - Only because Vanessa brought in some Godfather theory or something.
I'm sorry this looks pretty bad, but it pretty difficult to pinpoint people. I did the best with what I got right now.
This is like the umpteenth time Ghostkid has posted in the thread to explain that he is going to bed, saying they will be back later to check up on the thread, etc. He's not as blatant to saying he is also promising to come back with reads but it harkens back to the very reason glow suspected Dedenne and she's not doing the same with GhostKid. And glow thinks her approach is never wrong so that means she wasn't wrong about reading into frequency as connotation of scuminess.
SHUT UP
honestly i haven't read any of that guys posts ngl
amazonevan19
DLELELEWOOOOP
Dolby/Trundle/Evan assumes that I?m already bussing Trundle despite the fact he has been put under very little pressure, if any at all. Maybe I could be read as protecting Dolby due to wishywashiness? But just putting out there that even if you have doubts about me, pairing me with Trundle makes very little sense
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Ryumia, thanks for at least providing something. Why would you vote yourself when you have a number of people on your “concerns” list?? Just vote one of them; never vote yourself
And... That's what worries me right now. :X That today's lynch is quite important.
Then please don't vote yourself. You'll be at 3 votes and currently Tom has 3 votes. We can't afford to lose a Tom lynching to you.
