Yeah it would require some bussing, but that's to be expected in mafia, and I wouldn't put a Dolby/Tom bussing situation past him. Again, I need to fully look back at all of Dolby's list reads because while he's more deliberate with his cases when he does them, Dolby tends to get less watchful when he spits out playerlist reads posts as even the most experienced among us do. Tom does seem convenient of a person to be after right now considering he has some heat on himself as well.
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Yeah it would require some bussing, but that's to be expected in mafia, and I wouldn't put a Dolby/Tom bussing situation past him. Again, I need to fully look back at all of Dolby's list reads because while he's more deliberate with his cases when he does them, Dolby tends to get less watchful when he spits out playerlist reads posts as even the most experienced among us do. Tom does seem convenient of a person to be after right now considering he has some heat on himself as well.
I'm curious as to what your theories would be if glow killed Oath for some reason? Because I can see one reason but you're not really stating it here.
This is like the umpteenth time Ghostkid has posted in the thread to explain that he is going to bed, saying they will be back later to check up on the thread, etc. He's not as blatant to saying he is also promising to come back with reads but it harkens back to the very reason glow suspected Dedenne and she's not doing the same with GhostKid. And glow thinks her approach is never wrong so that means she wasn't wrong about reading into frequency as connotation of scuminess.
Tbh my reads hasnt changed that much...i dropped punchy and added antonio tho because of his scumslip
What are your thoughts on Dolby, glow, and Evan? They're being discussed.
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Heyden I have a specific question for you. Do you think Dolby and Tom are a team?
god, noone seems ultra scummy to me and the roles ive seen so far seem pretty standard for an experimental game, at least compared to trundles game. every scummy thing i have to say for dolby seems to have some kind of simple explanation for it, id almost be unsuprised if this was another game where everyone is town like that one scummy awards game lol
It's funny you ask that because I was actually think of that before. And yes, I do. Tom is definitely under fire right now, and scum Dolby won't hold back on deathbussing his team mates if they're probably going to be lynched. Something about Dolby's early null read on Tom felt really ominous (I can't recall where it is), and Dolby's random epiphany to Tom possible being scum felt a bit weird. IDK I just feel like there's like an invisible barrier they're forcing between themselves I can't see.
There's other stuff too I'll try and look for it later but I'm rlly busy rn sorry. Just popping in every 30 mins ish.
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This is exactly how I feel rn honestly, I just don't have any definitive reads. Either scum doing really well at blending in, or they're all inactive.
Speaking of inactive, can we have a Gigablish replacement pls?
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giglabalish? gigashabila? idk
i should probably explain all my points against dolby, so here they are:
1. his vote onto locket
this is probably my weakest point, but the fact that dolby sussed her for just a bit of a change in behaviour and for being inactive, and was willing to lynch her over it, rubs me the wrong way, especially after its been proved that lockets inactivity is genuine.
2. his interactions with kayla
dolby has tr kayla from d1, citing her lack of changing her viewpoint about policy lynching as her being town which couldve been intentionally faked in the scumchat, as well as kaylas almost refusal to question him. its very likely that if one of them are maf the other is, and this looks a lot like a team.
3. his lack of activity at eod/possible protection of antonio
during the eod in d1, i distinctly remember dolby lurking in the thread, only posting a few things defending antonio but not dedenne, even tho they were being sussed for basically the same reason. plus, the reason he used to pull the lynch off of antonio is that noone was defending him, which could have been an intentional play by the scum team to lead suspicion away from antonio without directly connecting themselves to him through actual defense. plus my already existing sr on antonio, i believe theres a distinct possibility of antonio being on a scumteam with dolby, and his lack of defense of dedenne was his attempt to save antonio by letting a townie die.
4. his arguments about the night kills
a lot of the discussion about the kills last night were about who killed kate, and why there were only 3 kills when there were most likely 4 kills available, with 3 from the mafia team and one from oath the vig. dolby believes that kate mustve been killed by the mafia team and oath didnt shoot last night, bc of the high liklihood of the three kp mafia team. he also believes that if someone was saved by doc, they wouldve claimed by now, even tho i think theres a fairly obvious situation where they wouldnt claim if they got saved - if they were the doc themselves. i feel a lot more confident saying it now bc i dont necesarily think that tom is the doc who almost got killed last night, but i think that dolby wouldve definitely considered this as an option if he was town, especially with how unlikely kate is to be a mafia kill. the fact that he is dismissing it could be a form of hiding the knowledge of what really happened last night from town, as he now knows who the doc is and doesnt want to alert town to his intentions. its too obvious to me, an unexperienced player, for him to not even consider it imo
thats basically it, i have some thoughts as to how they could be explained but i wanna see dolbys response b4 i announce my final thoughts
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god i really suck at formatting, dont i? i should probably try to bold stuff more and stop making these ugly unreadable blocks of text lol
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i wanna take another look at mog, i think shes intentionally cruising at this point but idk, theres probably no way she gets lynched today tho
1. his vote onto locket
this is probably my weakest point, but the fact that dolby sussed her for just a bit of a change in behaviour and for being inactive, and was willing to lynch her over it, rubs me the wrong way, especially after its been proved that lockets inactivity is genuine.
2. his interactions with kayla
dolby has tr kayla from d1, citing her lack of changing her viewpoint about policy lynching as her being town which couldve been intentionally faked in the scumchat, as well as kaylas almost refusal to question him. its very likely that if one of them are maf the other is, and this looks a lot like a team.
3. his lack of activity at eod/possible protection of antonio
during the eod in d1, i distinctly remember dolby lurking in the thread, only posting a few things defending antonio but not dedenne, even tho they were being sussed for basically the same reason. plus, the reason he used to pull the lynch off of antonio is that noone was defending him, which could have been an intentional play by the scum team to lead suspicion away from antonio without directly connecting themselves to him through actual defense. plus my already existing sr on antonio, i believe theres a distinct possibility of antonio being on a scumteam with dolby, and his lack of defense of dedenne was his attempt to save antonio by letting a townie die.
4. his arguments about the night kills
a lot of the discussion about the kills last night were about who killed kate, and why there were only 3 kills when there were most likely 4 kills available, with 3 from the mafia team and one from oath the vig. dolby believes that kate mustve been killed by the mafia team and oath didnt shoot last night, bc of the high liklihood of the three kp mafia team. he also believes that if someone was saved by doc, they wouldve claimed by now, even tho i think theres a fairly obvious situation where they wouldnt claim if they got saved - if they were the doc themselves. i feel a lot more confident saying it now bc i dont necesarily think that tom is the doc who almost got killed last night, but i think that dolby wouldve definitely considered this as an option if he was town, especially with how unlikely kate is to be a mafia kill. the fact that he is dismissing it could be a form of hiding the knowledge of what really happened last night from town, as he now knows who the doc is and doesnt want to alert town to his intentions. its too obvious to me, an unexperienced player, for him to not even consider it imo
thats basically it, i have some thoughts as to how they could be explained but i wanna see dolbys response b4 i announce my final thoughts
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god i really suck at formatting, dont i? i should probably try to bold stuff more and stop making these ugly unreadable blocks of text lol
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i wanna take another look at mog, i think shes intentionally cruising at this point but idk, theres probably no way she gets lynched today tho
Dolby's ISO is so painful to read I have a headache. He's put a hell of a lot of work into this game, no matter what alignment, I'll give him that.
It's just something about those kills in combination with how he was eager to point out that kate was a mafia kill that bothers me. Because it's so weird for him to point out a kill I can see only him doing because it does come off as a bluesnipe if it wasn't Oath's shot (katezilla).
It's just something about those kills in combination with how he was eager to point out that kate was a mafia kill that bothers me. Because it's so weird for him to point out a kill I can see only him doing because it does come off as a bluesnipe if it wasn't Oath's shot (katezilla).
The way I think of it, Oath was no doubt definitely a bluesnipe imo Toads ehh not so much. If Oath was actually just a random kill then I'm going in the complete wrong direction but oh well.
Looking at the playerlist rn, capable people would be Glow/Dad/Ness/Dolby, maybe others that I'm just overseeing but idk. Glow/Dad is honestly a toss up rn, I have this deep deep feeling glow is scum, Dad feels town I guess idk honestly, and Ness meh I feel like he's town.
Dolby on the other hand sort of feels a bit distanced, even though he's provided a looooot of content. And the point Dad brought up about Dolby making the 3rd kill seem like a maf kill to distance away from the mafias intentions did seem off. I'd honestly expect town Dolby out of all people to realise how STUPID a katezilla maf kill would be, unless there was a mechanic that messed around with the kills or something we don't know but eh. I won't be shocked if Dolby flips scum, but I'm not too confident in it right now to come to a conclusion.
SO ya, still voting Tom I guess!!111!
Looking at the playerlist rn, capable people would be Glow/Dad/Ness/Dolby, maybe others that I'm just overseeing but idk. Glow/Dad is honestly a toss up rn, I have this deep deep feeling glow is scum, Dad feels town I guess idk honestly, and Ness meh I feel like he's town.
Dolby on the other hand sort of feels a bit distanced, even though he's provided a looooot of content. And the point Dad brought up about Dolby making the 3rd kill seem like a maf kill to distance away from the mafias intentions did seem off. I'd honestly expect town Dolby out of all people to realise how STUPID a katezilla maf kill would be, unless there was a mechanic that messed around with the kills or something we don't know but eh. I won't be shocked if Dolby flips scum, but I'm not too confident in it right now to come to a conclusion.
SO ya, still voting Tom I guess!!111!
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Smh do you really think I said "Hmm I'm going to look back and see what other people said on the subject and copy it into my own reads"? Tbh I didn't look back at all when making my posts, I was at a train station and I was typing really fast off of memory. Yeah with so many players I'm bound to bring up something that someone already said but I don't have a master plan to copy people's reads
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Me said:
Yeah I think Town Tom would more than scum Tom. Usually when people are scum they feel the need to post decent things to not let their team town and lower the numbers. I definitely still find Tom sus but it just doesn't make sense why scum Tom would act this wayDolby said:
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That was not the only reason I gaveDolby said:
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I just replaced in!
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Also why me and Glow
Dolby and I are not a team. If ANYTHING I think what Trundle is doing ( hiding behind him ) would make THEM a team if Dolby flips red. I know that's a bit repetitive but I'm sure that got lost somewhere amongst this whole anti-Dolby rally. He does not want to risk getting called out by Dolby so he kept trying to get in his good graces all of Day One. Now on Day Two he isn't even posting. Maybe he is busy, or maybe he is just too scared to defend a teammate ( should Dolby flip red ). Me, on the contrary, I am choosing to side with my gut on a Town lean of him which is why I am not questioning him as hard as someone called Tom. I don't know if you missed the post where Dad and I were discussing and questioning Dolby on his sudden switch to Glow, but yes I did question him that. Other than that I'm so focused on Tom because everything is adding up in my mind and HE IS MY BIGGEST SCUM LEAN. Why would I jump onto Dolby when I consider Tom my biggest scum lean ? Maybe we just don't think / play the same, you and I Rune.
Tom > > > Dolby for me.
Honestly at this point, I AM nervous Dolby will actually flip red because then it'll be impossible for me to get out of this and I'm screwed. At the end of the day, I truly feel like Tom was way too quiet and should have given blue vibes off to be their Night One kill. He has claimed no hits so I believe that ship has sailed in terms of being a possibility. He is a good player, not some random Katezilla.
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It's because of this mentality that the mafia team is being provided a safety blanket to hide under. It's because of this that players like Tom don't have to do anything and just continue coasting by. Literally everyone keeps saying " a mafia would do this or that " so of course any potential mafia players would do the opposite. They are reading the thread and learning how to get in Town's good graces.
hey, if u dont wanna be teamed with dolby then maybe dont reply to a post aimed at him lol.
also if trundle was on the same team as dolby why would he have to try to suck up to him? i think u just worded it incorrectly or smth. but ye ive considered a trundle dolby team, but trundles been too silent for me to be able to get much of a read off on him
Do you guys not find it weird how many people are playing quielty / inactive in this game ?? Hmm I wonder why. Maybe because we all kept screaming " we are not lynching Inactives ". We are literally giving potentially mafia members a pass for this and that.
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Regardless if that post was aimed at him, I had my own comments to make. If we were a team i probably would have just let him handle things himself instead of trying to make it obvious don't you think ? By the way things are going he most likely will get lynched. So assuming we were both red, why wouldn't I want to detach myself from him ?
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Regardless if that post was aimed at him, I had my own comments to make. If we were a team i probably would have just let him handle things himself instead of trying to make it obvious don't you think ? By the way things are going he most likely will get lynched. So assuming we were both red, why wouldn't I want to detach myself from him ?
the not lynching inactives bit was purely bc u were suggesting it as a policy lynch rather than using it as part of a case against somebody. if the innactivity can be explained by something other than just coasting we shouldnt lynch a person over it, it should be a part of a wider argument against someone rather than the entire reasoning. that said, there are a few ppl who im questioning atm whove been silent, like mog, who i want to see more from.
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i guess what im trying to say is that im not against lynching inactives, as long as u have more evidence to back it up
cornimer
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Maybe I should clarify this more. I think that Tom is suspicious which is why he is in my concerning area. When he was town in Egyptian mafia, he was relatively inactive but posted more than this and his posts had a different tone too. HOWEVER, I don't like how hard people like ILY are pushing for his lynch, so early in the day, without giving him an opportunity to talk. It just feels very opportunistic.Dolby said:
Smh I literally said I wrote it at a train station, yeah its bad but it wasn't even supposed to end up being an actual reads list. I was trying to get some sort of thoughts out so ppl had something to go off of with me since I just replaced inDolby said:
If you don't remember where it's from I also don't remember where it's from. Yeah ok maybe it was said before but like I said, I didn't read back in the thread at all, I was just saying thoughts I formed while reading the thread before I replaced in. If I copied it it was subconciouslyDolby said:
~ts too hard to edit quotes for me to pretend the second part of kaylas post is here~
dw too much about the first bit, it was more of an observational joke than anything. tho apparently u felt the need to defend urself against it sooo
also u didnt reply to the bit about trundle, why would he try and be buddy buddy with dolby if hes on the same team as him? wouldnt it be better to do what u said and distance himself from dolby to not arrouse suspicion?
dw too much about the first bit, it was more of an observational joke than anything. tho apparently u felt the need to defend urself against it sooo
also u didnt reply to the bit about trundle, why would he try and be buddy buddy with dolby if hes on the same team as him? wouldnt it be better to do what u said and distance himself from dolby to not arrouse suspicion?
