Mafia Call the Ships to Port: Game Thread - END GAME - TOWN VICTORY!

[Kamzitty]

1. I DAMN WELL DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IT JUST FEELS LIKE TOWNS CHANCES OF WINNING WILL GO DOWN FAST
2. Well, tell that to Tina

Okay this sounds like ur trying to scare us. Why would there be a blue role that would kill town players, aren't blue roles supposed to HELP town

 

[PunchyTheCat]

Tina is an incredibly experienced host. I highly doubt she would include such a vague role. With no way of knowing who dies when you blow up (die), that'd be incredibly unbalanced.

tell that to Tina anyways this is experimental

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Okay this sounds like ur trying to scare us. Why would there be a blue role that would kill town players, aren't blue roles supposed to HELP town

They are but Tina made me a bomb

 

[illunie]

because can you not see how obvious it is that it was a definitive scumslip??

if you're townie, I admire your bravery for defending a nigh-confirmed scum, but it's also kinda dumb and suicidal of you to do so, sooOOOooOoOOo yeah prepare to get lynched after punchy flips scum

its not even close to a definitive scumslip, what? all u have for ur scumslip is that he called tom a mafia joat and that he said there might be a mafia joat. noones told me what a mafia player would gain from stating this, the only reason u have is that 'theres no way he couldve known that' which couldve just been a coincedence. noone is talking about how his reaction to it lines up exactly with his town meta (not even dolby, the person whos brought up meta as a scumtell the most) or that hes probably not smart enough to come up with such a convulted role like that.

when i was scum i tried to get punchy lynched by pulling up his dumb claim as a mason, but was stopped by his partner dolby. now that he has noone to definitively back it up, this could be a dolby team trying to bring down an easy target. this whole thing reeks of a scum bw, especially since theres only 3 or 4 ppl whove tried to push it atm. noones even questioning it?

 

[amazonevan19]

Either way imo you should be sus of Rune bc there is very little reasoning as to why I'm town, and Idk why a townie would risk their head to save me I'm doing a bad job

Gonna bookmark this quote so when you flip scum, I'll seriously reconsider Rune being scum, since you are literally telling me to sus Rune, and that does not sit well with me. At all. Like you're throwing heavy shade on rune, an innocent bystander, trying to take him down with you.

Rune might very well be protecting his partner but this reaction...this one right here, from punchy, tells me a lot

 

[Dolby]

ANYWAY, very important notice to any Vigilantes, Jailors, any town with killing abilities, Punchy obviously has a bomb aspect to his role that will probably kill you so we'll just save him for a lynch imo.

Don't think it would affect a jailor, but really I think that claim is fake and was made to dissaude any attempts to kill him.

 

[illunie]

Either way imo you should be sus of Rune bc there is very little reasoning as to why I'm town, and Idk why a townie would risk their head to save me I'm doing a bad job

im not trying to save u lol, im just scared by how quickly ppl turned on u. i still think ur role claim was dumb, and u have been acting different, but u also acted different in nesses game and ur roleclaim was dumb in trundles. the meta basically matches up perfectly

 

[PunchyTheCat]

its not even close to a definitive scumslip, what? all u have for ur scumslip is that he called tom a mafia joat and that he said there might be a mafia joat. noones told me what a mafia player would gain from stating this, the only reason u have is that 'theres no way he couldve known that' which couldve just been a coincedence. noone is talking about how his reaction to it lines up exactly with his town meta (not even dolby, the person whos brought up meta as a scumtell the most) or that hes probably not smart enough to come up with such a convulted role like that.

when i was scum i tried to get punchy lynched by pulling up his dumb claim as a mason, but was stopped by his partner dolby. now that he has noone to definitively back it up, this could be a dolby team trying to bring down an easy target. this whole thing reeks of a scum bw, especially since theres only 3 or 4 ppl whove tried to push it atm. noones even questioning it?

tbh the second paragraph is valid, maybe Rune's being aware or his meta?

 

[amazonevan19]

its not even close to a definitive scumslip, what? all u have for ur scumslip is that he called tom a mafia joat and that he said there might be a mafia joat. noones told me what a mafia player would gain from stating this, the only reason u have is that 'theres no way he couldve known that' which couldve just been a coincedence. noone is talking about how his reaction to it lines up exactly with his town meta (not even dolby, the person whos brought up meta as a scumtell the most) or that hes probably not smart enough to come up with such a convulted role like that.

when i was scum i tried to get punchy lynched by pulling up his dumb claim as a mason, but was stopped by his partner dolby. now that he has noone to definitively back it up, this could be a dolby team trying to bring down an easy target. this whole thing reeks of a scum bw, especially since theres only 3 or 4 ppl whove tried to push it atm. noones even questioning it?

apparently you missed the memo that punchy cited 2 of Tom's powers SPECIFICALLY BY NAME BEFORE HE FLIPPED

idk how you can't see that's a slip

I get the skepticism but if you don't have all the details then that'll color your perception

 

[PunchyTheCat]

Can the det invest- oh right Toads is dead

 

[illunie]

apparently you missed the memo that punchy cited 2 of Tom's powers SPECIFICALLY BY NAME BEFORE HE FLIPPED

idk how you can't see that's a slip

I get the skepticism but if you don't have all the details then that'll color your perception

but why would he say that as mafia? noones answered that yet

 

[Dolby]

its not even close to a definitive scumslip, what? all u have for ur scumslip is that he called tom a mafia joat and that he said there might be a mafia joat. noones told me what a mafia player would gain from stating this, the only reason u have is that 'theres no way he couldve known that' which couldve just been a coincedence. noone is talking about how his reaction to it lines up exactly with his town meta (not even dolby, the person whos brought up meta as a scumtell the most) or that hes probably not smart enough to come up with such a convulted role like that.

when i was scum i tried to get punchy lynched by pulling up his dumb claim as a mason, but was stopped by his partner dolby. now that he has noone to definitively back it up, this could be a dolby team trying to bring down an easy target. this whole thing reeks of a scum bw, especially since theres only 3 or 4 ppl whove tried to push it atm. noones even questioning it?

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I'm taking back the compliment I gave you in obs last game

Again, do you seriously believe that a "veteran time bomb" exists, or even that it's town sided? Having a veteran time bomb is extremely OP for town. Mafia would have to put two kills into it, and have members die either once or twice from the kill. (I have no idea how the bomb would kill voters in a lynch, but a time bomb killing visitors is pretty obvious to me)

Also, Punchy tried to pull the lynch off of Tom, through the Mog wagon, and the Antonio wagon. He did not definitively state that he was scummy, and more than a few people thought that Tom was town JoaT through the intermediary phase

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im not trying to save u lol, im just scared by how quickly ppl turned on u. i still think ur role claim was dumb, and u have been acting different, but u also acted different in nesses game and ur roleclaim was dumb in trundles. the meta basically matches up perfectly

So was Panda in SU2, and so was Glow in FNAF, and both turned out to be wrong because a scum slip is a scum slip no matter how many people are pushing it

Do you seriously believe his claim as well

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oops, kinda was to focused on the first bit, ignore that last line

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but why would he say that as mafia? noones answered that yet

1. To appear to be helpful
2. So that he could not be forced to back down and show weakness is front of Ness. Winning the argument could have put him a position of greater strength

 

[Heyden]

Don't think it would affect a jailor, but really I think that claim is fake and was made to dissaude any attempts to kill him.

I don't know how he would've come up with it though. The only game that I recall having bomb like roles was Korean mafia. Personally I think we should just play it safe and lynch him.

 

[PunchyTheCat]

1. To appear to be helpful
2. So that he could not be forced to back down and show weakness is front of Ness. Winning the argument could have put him a position of greater strength

I genuniely thought that there was a messenger. "could have put him in a position of greater strength" wtf does that even mean.
on 1. I was genuinely trying to be helpful

 

[illunie]

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I'm taking back the compliment I gave you in obs last game

Again, do you seriously believe that a "veteran time bomb" exists, or even that it's town sided? Having a veteran time bomb is extremely OP for town. Mafia would have to put two kills into it, and have members die either once or twice from the kill. (I have no idea how the bomb would kill voters in a lynch, but a time bomb killing visitors is pretty obvious to me)

Also, Punchy tried to pull the lynch off of Tom, through the Mog wagon, and the Antonio wagon. He did not definitively state that he was scummy, and more than a few people thought that Tom was town JoaT through the intermediary phase

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So was Panda in SU2, and so was Glow in FNAF, and both turned out to be wrong because a scum slip is a scum slip no matter how many people are pushing it

Do you seriously believe his claim as well

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oops, kinda was to focused on the first bit, ignore that last line

hey, can u stop with the ate pls

this is an experimental setup, things can be op or up. take for example nesses role from apm, a nigh unstoppable president with three nightlives and a secret message ability. im not sure how experienced trundle is as a host, but arguing that a role would be too op is honestly not a great argument.

as for the second part, i would say that only punchy could answer that. considering how excited he can get tho, such as in the woodpines mafia where he voted for waffles, someone he had no opinion on beforehand, i wouldnt put it past him to say tom was maf even if he didnt think so 5 mins before.

what do u think about punchys reaction to slipping?

 

[amazonevan19]

I genuniely thought that there was a messenger. "could have put him in a position of greater strength" wtf does that even mean.
on 1. I was genuinely trying to be helpful

the best way for you to be helpful at this point is to just stop talking

 

[illunie]

o i didnt see the post merge

its still not fully proven to be a scumslip, it could just be a coincidence. ye ik, its kinda flimsy but its still a possibility

and i honestly believe his claim more than i dont, its definitely a fake roleclaim at the very least, not anything he came up with

 

[Dolby]

what do u think about punchys reaction to slipping?

Earlier, I cited two previous situations of town defending slipped maf, Punchy and you honestly seem exactly like that

As for the slip itself (refering to the 2 powers section that Ness brought up), Punchy literally said "I need to find a way to claim without breadcrumbing", and it took him 6 minutes to simply claim his role. Punchy's been in what, 6 games? He should know HOW to claim by now

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o i didnt see the post merge

its still not fully proven to be a scumslip, it could just be a coincidence. ye ik, its kinda flimsy but its still a possibility

and i honestly believe his claim more than i dont, its definitely a fake roleclaim at the very least, not anything he came up with

I'd say the opposite. Punchy claimed to be a Campaigner trying to get me to be Prez before I came in to stop it. He is able to come up with an (very improbably) fakeclaim. Tina wouldn't give the maf team time bomb veteran (though she would give them "Brian the lighthouse keeper")

 

[PunchyTheCat]

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I'm taking back the compliment I gave you in obs last game

Again, do you seriously believe that a "veteran time bomb" exists, or even that it's town sided? Having a veteran time bomb is extremely OP for town. Mafia would have to put two kills into it, and have members die either once or twice from the kill. (I have no idea how the bomb would kill voters in a lynch, but a time bomb killing visitors is pretty obvious to me)

Also, Punchy tried to pull the lynch off of Tom, through the Mog wagon, and the Antonio wagon. He did not definitively state that he was scummy, and more than a few people thought that Tom was town JoaT through the intermediary phase

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So was Panda in SU2, and so was Glow in FNAF, and both turned out to be wrong because a scum slip is a scum slip no matter how many people are pushing it

Do you seriously believe his claim as well

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oops, kinda was to focused on the first bit, ignore that last line

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1. To appear to be helpful
2. So that he could not be forced to back down and show weakness is front of Ness. Winning the argument could have put him a position of greater strength

On the mog wagon part, I was definitely sus of her before I actually voted for her. I was honestly planning to make a case on mog long before everyone else was sus of her. on the ANTONIO wagon. I'm honestly kind of annoyed that almost everyone stopped sussing him after the Dedenne lynch. Tbh I have so much going through my head I forgot the actual reason that I voted him.

 

[Dolby]

After I leave for Iceland tomorrow, I'm pretty much useless for in-thread content. Yeah, Punchy is quite obviously scum at this point

Very town
Dolby-me
Ness
Ghost-props for being the first to vote Tom. In fact, he voted Tom on both days
iloveyou-tunneled Tom
Antonio
Panda-put Tom one away from lynch D1. Def the least confident on this list (ok, maybe before Iloveyou), because she is capable and likes bussing (as demonstrated last games D1)
Mogyay/Kermit-If Punchy is scum, which I'm 99% sure of, this slot is definetely town. It was Punchy's first choice of getting the vote off of Tom.

Townleans
Dad
Trundle
Fireninja
Kammm
Runeraider-I am tempted to lower him drastically within this, but Punchy's reaction was very telling I feel

The rest of the lot
Glow
Vampnessa
Jacob
Heyden
Evan
Ryu
Gig/Amanda

Heyden and Evan have the distinction of being the towniest in this grouping

Scum
Punchy

 

[PunchyTheCat]

I'm also fully aware that barely anyone is going to listen to that post

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not dolby's