Mafia Call the Ships to Port: Game Thread - END GAME - TOWN VICTORY!

[illunie]

Earlier, I cited two previous situations of town defending slipped maf, Punchy and you honestly seem exactly like that

As for the slip itself (refering to the 2 powers section that Ness brought up), Punchy literally said "I need to find a way to claim without breadcrumbing", and it took him 6 minutes to simply claim his role. Punchy's been in what, 6 games? He should know HOW to claim by now

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I'd say the opposite. Punchy claimed to be a Campaigner trying to get me to be Prez before I came in to stop it. He is able to come up with an (very improbably) fakeclaim. Tina wouldn't give the maf team time bomb veteran (though she would give them "Brian the lighthouse keeper")

first bit: basing the validity of his claim on how long it took for him to say it, especially if it as convoluted as that, feels too weak and nitpicky to be taken as a valid point. also from the last three games ive played with him he doesnt seem to have learned much, so idk

second bit: has punchy ever played in a game with a bomb role before? would he be able to think of that? also wouldnt a scum claiming a fake role say they know how the bomb works? idk if i can believe that punchy is smart enough to fabricate a role but isnt smart enough to figure out exactly what his role does

 

[PunchyTheCat]

How many times have I scumslipped as town?!

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RIght, I'll shut up now

 

[Dolby]

second bit: has punchy ever played in a game with a bomb role before? would he be able to think of that? also wouldnt a scum claiming a fake role say they know how the bomb works? idk if i can believe that punchy is smart enough to fabricate a role but isnt smart enough to figure out exactly what his role does

Punchy hasn't played in a game with a bomb role before. He also hadn't played in a game with mayoral elections, or a campaigner before.

I think that the probablity of the existance of a "Time Bomb Veteran" is close to zero, and the chances that Tina wouldn't say what a Time bomb does in a role PM pretty unlikely as well. So yes, I think that Punchy not thinking of what the bomb actually does is more than a bit disconcerting, and I think he was simply unprepared for closer scrutiny.

 

[PunchyTheCat]

Punchy's been in what, 6 games? He should know HOW to claim by now

I was going to claim more in-depth, but I didn't.

 

[illunie]

Punchy hasn't played in a game with a bomb role before. He also hadn't played in a game with mayoral elections, or a campaigner before.

I think that the probablity of the existance of a "Time Bomb Veteran" is close to zero, and the chances that Tina wouldn't say what a Time bomb does in a role PM pretty unlikely as well. So yes, I think that Punchy not thinking of what the bomb actually does is more than a bit disconcerting, and I think he was simply unprepared for closer scrutiny.

wouldnt it be super easy to say smth like the first person who voted for him would be killed or smth? like how can u not prepare for someone to ask what ur role does lol
also im pretty sure that if punchys role is town its intended to be a provable claim to help lead the town, just like nesses role was intended to be, and the not knowing what it does part is to make sure that ppl question their role claim, like ppl are doing rn. its just unfortunate that it went to someone who would never be able to lead

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I was going to claim more in-depth, but I didn't.

ok ud better claim more in depth now if theres more to ur role ur not telling us

 

[PunchyTheCat]

ok ud better claim more in depth now if theres more to ur role ur not telling us

no there isn't. There's one other part about "loved ones" that basically means Lovers are confirmed in this game, or it's flavor text.

 

[Dolby]

wouldnt it be super easy to say smth like the first person who voted for him would be killed or smth? like how can u not prepare for someone to ask what ur role does lol
also im pretty sure that if punchys role is town its intended to be a provable claim to help lead the town, just like nesses role was intended to be, and the not knowing what it does part is to make sure that ppl question their role claim, like ppl are doing rn. its just unfortunate that it went to someone who would never be able to lead

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This is exactly like Glow saying that Evan would make a more plausible claim as scum than doc who invested and got inno on the guy who he was tunneling that day who then became confirmed

I'm honestly tempted to just stop replying to you because you are being so dense about this

We'll see what he is at the end of tomorrow probably, and I'm honestly gonna laugh

 

[N e s s]

wouldnt it be super easy to say smth like the first person who voted for him would be killed or smth? like how can u not prepare for someone to ask what ur role does lol
also im pretty sure that if punchys role is town its intended to be a provable claim to help lead the town, just like nesses role was intended to be, and the not knowing what it does part is to make sure that ppl question their role claim, like ppl are doing rn. its just unfortunate that it went to someone who would never be able to lead

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I'm sorry what is this about my role??

 

[Dolby]

um

ummmmmmmm

I'm sorry what is this about my role??

He's refering to your role in APM

 

[PunchyTheCat]

We'll see what he is at the end of tomorrow probably, and I'm honestly gonna laugh

and laugh so hard Rune will. I really should read up on FNAF Mafia, scum are comparing this situation to that.

 

[N e s s]

He's refering to your role in APM

yeah I turned my head at that for a second but you're right

 

[Geoni]

REEEE I DIDN'T VOTE I THOUGHT THERE WAS ANOTHER DAY.

I'm going to sound like a hypocrite since I listed that as one of glow's suspicious behaviors. Honestly though, happy as I am that Tom flipped red, his lynch doesn't give a ton of information so we have to look at what other people did with Tom. Honestly I still feel pretty sus of glow because she avoided susing him for weird reasons, preferring to stay on Oath, and then today she hard-focused on Antonio having scumslipped. Will catch up once I am done with some irl stuff.

 

[Dolby]

when i was scum i tried to get punchy lynched by pulling up his dumb claim as a mason, but was stopped by his partner dolby. now that he has noone to definitively back it up, this could be a dolby team trying to bring down an easy target. this whole thing reeks of a scum bw, especially since theres only 3 or 4 ppl whove tried to push it atm. noones even questioning it?

Also kinda funny because this is basically what part of Evan's defense was in FNAF

 

[N e s s]

Hey Rune I understand where you're coming from but can you please stop defending punchy because you're giving him a very large safety blanket right now, would prefer if you pressure him instead and then you can defend him if you judge him as town

 

[Dolby]

and laugh so hard Rune will. I really should read up on FNAF Mafia, scum are comparing this situation to that.

So you think I'm scum when I pretty much revitalized the Tom lynch

 

[amazonevan19]

no there isn't. There's one other part about "loved ones" that basically means Lovers are confirmed in this game, or it's flavor text.

so you're a veteran bomb lover? got it

Sounds just a bit more plausible than being a SHAPESHIFTER changing roles every day which is why you will be 1-shot vigilante, then townie, then vengeful 1-shot vigilante.

 

[illunie]

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This is exactly like Glow saying that Evan would make a more plausible claim as scum than doc who invested and got inno on the guy who he was tunneling that day who then became confirmed

I'm honestly tempted to just stop replying to you because you are being so dense about this

We'll see what he is at the end of tomorrow probably, and I'm honestly gonna laugh

can u stop with the personal insults pls ty

what im trying to say is that punchys role sounds plausible if u think about it from the perspective of a host. its doesnt seem to be just cobbled together from nothing, it actually has a purpose for town, while the bomb doesnt make sense for a scum player to have. the only way i could see the role being scum is if the bomb did smth that could only benefit scum, like kill a random blue role, and punchy withheld that information. i can see where ur coming from when u add in his actions over the past couple of days, but sussing him over his role is honestly a bad idea.

 

[EpicGamer12]

After I leave for Iceland tomorrow, I'm pretty much useless for in-thread content. Yeah, Punchy is quite obviously scum at this point

Very town
Dolby-me
Ness
Ghost-props for being the first to vote Tom. In fact, he voted Tom on both days
iloveyou-tunneled Tom
Antonio
Panda-put Tom one away from lynch D1. Def the least confident on this list (ok, maybe before Iloveyou), because she is capable and likes bussing (as demonstrated last games D1)
Mogyay/Kermit-If Punchy is scum, which I'm 99% sure of, this slot is definetely town. It was Punchy's first choice of getting the vote off of Tom.

Townleans
Dad
Trundle
Fireninja
Kammm
Runeraider-I am tempted to lower him drastically within this, but Punchy's reaction was very telling I feel

The rest of the lot
Glow
Vampnessa
Jacob
Heyden
Evan
Ryu
Gig/Amanda

Heyden and Evan have the distinction of being the towniest in this grouping

Scum
Punchy

Heyden way more town appearing than most of those imo, but really there isn't too many left that I'm not town reading. Tomorrow I'll do a more in-depth analysis of my scum reads.

 

[amazonevan19]

can u stop with the personal insults pls ty

what im trying to say is that punchys role sounds plausible if u think about it from the perspective of a host. its doesnt seem to be just cobbled together from nothing, it actually has a purpose for town, while the bomb doesnt make sense for a scum player to have. the only way i could see the role being scum is if the bomb did smth that could only benefit scum, like kill a random blue role, and punchy withheld that information. i can see where ur coming from when u add in his actions over the past couple of days, but sussing him over his role is honestly a bad idea.

or maybe, y'know...IT'S ****ING FAKE

 

[PunchyTheCat]

so you're a veteran bomb lover? got it

Sounds just a bit more plausible than being a SHAPESHIFTER changing roles every day which is why you will be 1-shot vigilante, then townie, then vengeful 1-shot vigilante.

I CAN NOT DENY THESE FACTS
##Surrender