Mafia Cop 9er mafia thread
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I think I am more frustrated by the 'shouldnt be alive' because I absolutely can't defend against something like that and seeing it brought as a point against me right now is beyond annoying. I guess one more game of me making it to day 3 as town is needed for my meta though so whatever. Just wanted to pause and say that as a player.
Oh heck no, it carries a lot of weight. No IDK about it. But the longer I stare at it the more that's a problem. It would be a crazy bold move to pull off, but the payoff is huge. And having seen Ghost at play, hell, I can imagine being worried Ghost is going to slip up d2 -- why not nab a get-out-of-jail-free card AND tie up a loose end in one quick move?
Losing the roleblocker is a huge gamble tho, that is very worth noting.
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^ This is the kind of thinking that got me in trouble with Damniel though. How do you AI a single swift bold move that would hurt mafia a lot but simultaneously is almost guaranteed to prove to everyone that they're almost definitely town for the entire rest of the game? I still don't know.
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Oh, weird/interesting. Right, I saw you mentioned that earlier.
I'm still wondering why Sheep is still alive out of the three proven-innocent Ghost voters. I'd have much more reasonable doubts about Betsy just jumping on the easy Ghost-bus-wagon. I suppose mafia could have been guessing them as cop over Sheep due to Sheep's high visibility? Still don't know cop meta.
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.. If it's any comfort at all this will hopefully self-balance over time, Geoni? Eventually mafia will catch on that it's meta to keep you alive because then people suspect you endgame, and if they do that enough the meta will go away... I can only imagine the frustration, though.
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Biancasbotique
Sweet Feather
I remember that you said something about being nightkilled a lot. That's how I got the idea so it came from you really...Sorry if I offended. I wouldnt have made that joke if you weren't in on it. it supposed to be a tongue in cheek statement...btw what is the Godfather theory
Using a spoiler because this quote is long and my response will be too.
1) Lol I forgot that moment happened but yes, I didn't know who was in the 9th player game at that moment and had completely forgotten that whole 'dont skew things in favor of someone you know conversation in another thread' I had the day before and someone mentioned the name Ghost and my mind immediately went to GhostKid because he was a staple player in the community before it died out for a bit and brought a lot of fun and levity to the atmosphere so I was excited and forgot what I even responded to the day before when I was informed b100s bro my mind forgets the dumbest things but yeah this is something I considered part of that NAI early day 1 conversation part of the phase and forgot happened. But no don't give me this towncred I'm an evil spooky master manipulator!!! 
2) I think I spoke about the term seeds of doubt being a mafia tell so it's curious you picked up on the lingo to throw it Sheep's way but you have your own perspective and I guess I gotta follow this line of thought and see how Sheep reacts to it. I think for me when I use the term seeds of doubt I mean VERY subtle moments where wolves are saying things to townie's that make them question their reads or reasons they have for a townlean not as much 'this person has been attacking me outright for as long as you are saying sheep did. What has me conflicted here is that I could see Sheep's points there and feel like I can acknowledge Sheep's concern about you through them. I've very recently felt some of that directed towards myself.
3) You say you get no reads from both of us having the same amount of interaction with Ghost roughly but you raised some concerns about what I said to Ghost at some point not long ago while also acknowledging that name silliness moment from me? I feel like you do? That you feel my interactions are worse but aren't saying it RN?
4) I know I should just take the townread when it's given to me but I don't think it's really applicable to me, I wouldn't fearkill or frame kill on night 1 as a wolf after losing a roleblocker that I kindasorta pleaded for b100 to include in the game so I think it's a ??? thing to give me a townread for...and on that topic
5) I would have killed Misty night 1 because even in day 1 I had a cop read on Misty and if I were wolfing I would have gone for her and tried someone else next, I had a 'this person is either PR or wolf' type of read on Misty on day 1 which is why I said she felt questionably leadery but didn't want to express what I actually was thinking.
6) My 'Maybe it's you!' post towards Ghost you find funky...I didn't even think Ghost was a wolf and was just saying that playfully but not playfully enough to make him think I couldn't have been joking as I mild pressure for him to get caught up.
This took way too long to respond to. I admire this level of effort. I do think when I asked you to make a case for Sheep to do it in a way that felt carried an authentic towny mindset and I'm torn. It does feel like you come around on finding easy reasons to townread me? They're correct reasons but lack paranoia about me just a little. I do see just...so much work from you here that I like. But also I dislike it cause it's a lot to respond to and I still got a lot else to respond to!
2) I think I spoke about the term seeds of doubt being a mafia tell so it's curious you picked up on the lingo to throw it Sheep's way but you have your own perspective and I guess I gotta follow this line of thought and see how Sheep reacts to it. I think for me when I use the term seeds of doubt I mean VERY subtle moments where wolves are saying things to townie's that make them question their reads or reasons they have for a townlean not as much 'this person has been attacking me outright for as long as you are saying sheep did. What has me conflicted here is that I could see Sheep's points there and feel like I can acknowledge Sheep's concern about you through them. I've very recently felt some of that directed towards myself.
3) You say you get no reads from both of us having the same amount of interaction with Ghost roughly but you raised some concerns about what I said to Ghost at some point not long ago while also acknowledging that name silliness moment from me? I feel like you do? That you feel my interactions are worse but aren't saying it RN?
4) I know I should just take the townread when it's given to me but I don't think it's really applicable to me, I wouldn't fearkill or frame kill on night 1 as a wolf after losing a roleblocker that I kindasorta pleaded for b100 to include in the game so I think it's a ??? thing to give me a townread for...and on that topic
5) I would have killed Misty night 1 because even in day 1 I had a cop read on Misty and if I were wolfing I would have gone for her and tried someone else next, I had a 'this person is either PR or wolf' type of read on Misty on day 1 which is why I said she felt questionably leadery but didn't want to express what I actually was thinking.
6) My 'Maybe it's you!' post towards Ghost you find funky...I didn't even think Ghost was a wolf and was just saying that playfully but not playfully enough to make him think I couldn't have been joking as I mild pressure for him to get caught up.
This took way too long to respond to. I admire this level of effort. I do think when I asked you to make a case for Sheep to do it in a way that felt carried an authentic towny mindset and I'm torn. It does feel like you come around on finding easy reasons to townread me? They're correct reasons but lack paranoia about me just a little. I do see just...so much work from you here that I like. But also I dislike it cause it's a lot to respond to and I still got a lot else to respond to!
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How did you you know his name was Ghost in the first place btw? I think Bianca did too? This isn't a question I thought I'd need to ask but apparently I do since it's just been used to townread me but also it does clear me though that's me and my own perspective talking I know people think it could be me being super elaborately manipulative or something but lol if I got that elaborate I wouldn't be so sloppy to forget the nepotism conversation I was in myself but forgot.
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Btw don't take that as a 'you failed to meet my criteria' type of response I feel like I can be swayed not to keep it simple and that the Ghost "bus" should not hold so much weight for Sheep being town because the reality here is that it shouldn't though we have a lot surrounding that I feel willing to compromise.
That little (big...I shouldn't lie) part of me wants to be much less self sacrificial in my stance and win at day 5 rather than die here and watch Tessa just not re-evaluate Sheep at all F3. .0001% chance was an exaggeration tbh. And yet Tessa I can't tell you if you should or shouldn't re-eval because lol overthinkinlosesgames.
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Win at final 5*
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Technically I would win at day 5 if I was a wolf since equaling town is the win condition and in theory it's cause that last town dies the night after endgame. Wolfslip? Awoooooo!
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Moving on
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I remember that you said something about being nightkilled a lot. That's how I got the idea so it came from you really...Sorry if I offended. I wouldnt have made that joke if you weren't in on it. it supposed to be a tongue in cheek statement...btw what is the Godfather theory
Yeah when I boast to friends about being a good player but boasting is not always true!!!
Bianca you know what Godfather theory is don't even lol.
Banned terms in mafia:
1) Lynch
2) Scum
3) Godfather theory (NEW)
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Okay in regards to the name thing: fair let's drop that point. It's silly as it is and I don't think I need to use it as a defense in actuality, such a FMPOV thing anyways.
Did Ghost even townread anyone? Only content I remember at all is a sus on you droqen did I glance ok very something in the fifty times I've looked at this dude's ISO?
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Huh I guess there's this, but Misty is dead.
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He kindasorta townspewed Armadillo too what a travesty. Ok then.
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Especially tragic when I peaced out to return much later right before this was posted day 2:
In which Sheep and others felt it wolfspewed Armadillo. Not harshly blaming them for it but here's a question on frame of mind for you @Sheep Villager if you thought Armadillo looked bad for the defense from Ghost and think the droqen vote was distancing, wouldn't you also ask yourself why Ghost would defend the person his potential partner in droqen was pushing for elimination or do you really think that's just further distancing? Feels wildly uncoordinated if so.
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Frame-of-minded/perspectived vs Doubt Seedy
You'd be have to be arguing the latter droqen, yeah?
Unless I dunno what you are saying about Sheep being a doubt farmer.
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That's kind of why it feels like Armadillo was TMI'd in retrospect but I digress and don't deserve to say too much on it. #Day2neverhappened
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Dang, reading through, the early N2 was more shocking than I remembered!Made my read a lot faster. Condolences to mafia for probably having some of their plans ruined. Not sure I'd have wanted Armadillo to get voted out, since she was a very ambiguous sort that would have helped confuse votes to F3...
Out of the last pool of players, Sheep Villager, Geoni, droqen, Biancasbotique, tessa., and Miss Misty, mafia chose to eliminateMiss Misty-- keeping in mind this was before they knew Bianca was going to spill the beans and reveal both her and tessa as town. (tyvm @Biancasbotique)
It makes sense that the night elim pool would be Miss Misty and Sheep Villager, since they are the most 'proven towny'. I don't think there's anything to read into the order there though (i.e. that Misty was eliminated over Sheep). D2, I think they both had sparkling reputations. Either would be a good pick.
I think I'm pretty much done analyzing reads and blame-casting. Now we're in the endgame and I'm going to go through everyone's theories and see what I've missed.
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Kinda makes sense, but then if theory here that he could have been TR'ing a bunch of random people including his mafia friend as a premeditated smokescreen , I don't think we really have much to go on. It's just some random noise that could indicate something or anything or nothing at all.
Meh I can appreciate some of your tone in that your thoughts feel like they are really meandering here but I don't have much to say on it myself, given my thoughts on kills.
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Bruh OMGUSing is NAI and situational and I think it was clear I felt I was talking to a towny there? Sanity check.
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That's not me insulting you don't take it as an insult, fwiw I like a lack of sanity but only to a point.
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Right, bad wording on my part, I didn't mean to imply that stopping the tunnel is related to your sussing - imo we're on the same page regarding his "talking down deathtunnel == very towny". I can see what you're saying here a little more clearly. But it seems more like "checking for clarification on Betsy's stance" than an attempt to rekindle her vote on you (Sheep).
p.s. while in the archives I noticed Betsy was still a bit dubious of me
So mayyybe my theory of 'Sheep night-eliminated Betsy because Betsy was too suspicious of Sheep and no longer suspicious enough of droqen' has a little leak in it. I'm going to hold onto it, anyone who checks it out please let me know if you find any other holes.
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(it was in very small casual text and i missed it completely across two or three reads over this game, so i think it could have easily passed under the radar/been ignored/dismissed/etc)
Bit the nail on the head, that was my motive in bringing up OMGUS.
Why does your exclusion of the pr-sniping possibility feel like it just continues for the sake of circling around to it implicating Sheep somehow in your theory making? I mean honestly it kinda has to considering framing or clearkilling is not what I would do at all if I were a wolf with a big reputation and no framer left and you currently seem to stick to the Geo is townier than Sheep stance here. That's just from my perspective. What either of you two would kill like in the game isn't something I feel either way about. But I'm getting a built up impression here?
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@Biancasbotique
Busy for me is NAI at this point in my life I know my day 2 doesn't help but I can't help that either given I would have been around Sunday night for sure. Like I said before playing mafia is largely a distraction for the boring hours of work and people got up in arms over me being lackluster during the weekend last go around too. If you wanna yeet me for this reason understand, paranoia is a witch, just feels really blah for me to go for that reason and not what's on the table.
I mean I think the rest of this just reiterates that you're in the same place you were a while ago and Tessa is very clear she doesn't want to yeet Sheep either. Personally I know that the best thing I can do is unearth and question the behaviors of both droqen and sheep here and if I need to die to make f3 feel less paranoid then I hope Tessa will consider what I have said today about both rather than just not overthink it but at the same time still take one last reaffirming look at Sheep and not just droqen. I think the best advice I can give @tessa. if she wants to eliminate me today is that she would operate best as hammer by ignoring day 4 discussion and just ISOing and deciding. Emotional appeals at F3 really get people tripped up.
What gets me is that so far I am still leaning towards droqen being last wolf but it feels like maybe 70% confidence and what makes Sheep feel like 30% chance and not .0001% chance is maybe a little bit of some stuff today pinging me and putting me off but largely droqen really does feel so earnest on a tonal level and just the drive he has to convince others it's Sheep and not me and that feels so driven.
I'll post my updated percentage confidence nearing EoD or endgame, whichever scenario I wake up to in the voting thread lol.
tessa grace
yeehaw
Honestly I think my vote stays at droqen. I don't want Geoni/Droqen in F3 because that would be difficult for me (im easy to manipulate 
) Also, out of the 3, Droqen seems the most suspicious, with Geoni and Sheep probably being tied in my book (i really can't see sheep getting rid of a rb so fast- but geoni is also very much town)
) Also, out of the 3, Droqen seems the most suspicious, with Geoni and Sheep probably being tied in my book (i really can't see sheep getting rid of a rb so fast- but geoni is also very much town)You're really finding any little thing he did or said as wolfy as possible or maybe that's my instinctual reaction to people criticizing anyone anytime they refer to town in some unusual way I feel like I have said the town, towny, a townie, with town probably five times each this game idk and I am not counting. Anyways I feel like I am using this point to springboard off because it's similar to a lot of what's in this wall, moments that don't look great from droqen stretched to their absolute thinnest like I guess it's forgivable in a sense but I also have a different viewpoint on droqen's handling of Armadillo and an overall wolf agenda in my own analysis buuuut tbh I feel like due to a lack of interactions to analyze I just don't know what really happened between those two on a more coordinated level. Interactions that hint on how they are navigating their own agenda in other words. Same with you to an extent.
This point I share with you however I think that gets at my original intensity/take earlier in the day that they were just strongly distancing but my hangup is that question I asked you earlier when going over one of droqen's posts.
I forgot entirely to consider that a wolf typically has to say -something- to garner discussion about the cop without being too obvious about it in order to snipe out the cop IF they are even killing that way (which a wolf should be doing but that really feels under considered by everyone) not to mention the narrowing on it's own is anti-town but you have to consider that cop succeeded in making it all the way to day 3 and could be useful because everyone kept quiet about it for the most part and it's probably been strugglebus for the wolf so yeah I feel like this is a valid concern to bring up that I share.
I'd give you a belated cat pic anyways btw but I am getting exhausted. Also later on I will present the pros and cons for both of y'all and leave it at that. Demonstrate whether I think the scale I brought up earlier has changed any. I feel like I am typing gobbledygook at this point.
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I'll go to my Tumblr and see what the latest cat pic is and post it here how's about that?
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It was this. Quite fitting.
Time to catch up at work y'all are all sleeping anyways.
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Sheep Villager
Feel free to call me Sheep
Awake again; still feel pretty horrific but I'm not going to rep out this late in to the game.
Going to be looking at what went on while I slept and responding to things.
Going to be looking at what went on while I slept and responding to things.
Sheep Villager
Feel free to call me Sheep
@Sheep Villager since this is a response to me quoting your way too forgiving read on me day 2 is it not just...all that stuff I just quoted you saying? Now you're saying it's just one moment that actually made you lenient, does that other stuff you used to continue lightly townleaning me in that post not apply for you anymore in a re-eval after I got concerned about it?
I also think you are wrongly applying what I said to Betty as meaning I was softly pushing you. When I asked Betty if she was still looking at voting you I was simply asking about where her headspace was at after I made that 'stop fighting you two' post you just referenced. Unless I am misreading that you're misreading or something.
I'm wildly irked by you specifically appealing to Bianca and her past games with me when I recall rolling my eyes at Bianca saying something like 'Geo still alive huh' day two (I'll have to double check) and that's just...so tired already and you are inflaming the sentiment when you were straight up in a game with Ace just TWO GAMES AGO where had Ace not forfeited you know he would have had to pull me into F3.
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Yeeep she certainly did
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What was your intention pinging Bianca the way you just did when she already clarified she gets paranoid when I am not offed night 1?
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@Biancasbotique that Bert deathstare is for you too. What's next, the revival of Godfather theory?
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Consider me asking Bianca for input as a means to attempt to quell my light concerns on you, because reading you is a struggle and a half for me in general. All I can really do is look at your post history and go 'yeah that's Geoni' and I feel not making an effort to question any slight oddities at all is not a good idea. I'd also rather have someone who is hard confirmed town atm step in and tell me if I'm being stupid than soak in my own bad reads for too long. I'm not sure how much of it shows but my play style generally goes pretty heavy on expressing something that concerns me and then seeing what comes of it, if people agree or not and who agrees and who doesn't.
For the record you being alive this late isn't a point of interest for me and I'm sorry if you felt that I was getting at that since I'm aware you hate that. I was actually not aware of Bianca even having a paranoid streak in regards to you, but all that falls under the umbrella of things I can't exactly prove so it's a bit eh to even bring up. Could I have asked Tessa for thoughts on you instead of a meta analysis from Bianca? Yes, but out of the two Bianca has more experience with you.
In regards to the Betsy OMGUS situation the point was weak yes because it was always going to be either you trying to figure out what's going on in her head or soft pushing. I straight up do not know if you would do subtle manipulation like that or not and as it is the thing that called in to question one of my most TR moments about you, I felt like examining it. My other TRs about you mainly hinge on my ability to distinguish your behaviour as town.
Your ISO d1-2 mostly comes up as squeak clean besides your slight oddities when it comes to behaviour around Ghost. Not voting him, thinking no defence/inactivity = townlean.
All that said I'm done looking at d1-2 as I said last night and I feel I need to manage my time better and look at d3.
You do have a good point here and my initial thoughts are that instead of uncoordinated distancing it may have been tied to Armadillo/Ghost knowing each other IRL. Maybe feeling bad about Armadillo being pushed and not wanting to agree to your internet stranger partner on pushing an IRL friend. This is all way suboptimal from a game point of view but it's not like IRL stuff hasn't been happening already with the Ghost hesitancy d1. I don't like having to factor in IRL based interactions like this tbh and the Armadillo defending to begin with was already blurry due to that.
I will be keeping your point in mind though.
Awake. Sheep and I were really at each other's throats yesterday eh
@Geoni in case you missed this, you were asking a few times "Why am I going so hard on Sheep?" I answered it here (might have got lost in the page break automerge shuffle?)
But there's also picking up on Sheep's intensity towards me and perhaps mirroring it a little in, like, emotional defense. Not suspecting Sheep because of it but certainly being less forgiving of Sheep because of it. I'll be shedding that lens today.
@Geoni in case you missed this, you were asking a few times "Why am I going so hard on Sheep?" I answered it here (might have got lost in the page break automerge shuffle?)
But there's also picking up on Sheep's intensity towards me and perhaps mirroring it a little in, like, emotional defense. Not suspecting Sheep because of it but certainly being less forgiving of Sheep because of it. I'll be shedding that lens today.
Sheep Villager
Feel free to call me Sheep
Unrelated to the game at all but thank you for that because that has been me this morning waking up still feeling horrific, in f5.
(spoilered because it's of somewhat loose relevance)
I like the term because I have some unresolved paranoid tendencies that I've been trying to get a handle on since mid-last-game - I think it's how the topic came up in the first place. It's just nice to have names for these things, and once I learn something I get mildly obsessed with it for a short time before it recedes into the background of my mind. Why learn something if you're not gonna put it into use immediately?! >
The point you're responding to was more about the quantity of interactions than the interactions themselves. Sometimes there's a total void vs lots of chatter and the difference can be interesting. Instead, you were both pretty actively engaging with Ghost. I was thinking: the difference in your individual levels of interaction was not significant enough to be readable, even though it was not exactly the same.
Maybe I do feel your interactions are worse? I'll give it some thought today.
Wow, i hate my p 16-18 posts
Oh I understand! The seeds of doubt you look for are not so much undirected "flinging seeds everywhere," more like a repeated dismantling of, specifically, other people's townreads?
I like the term because I have some unresolved paranoid tendencies that I've been trying to get a handle on since mid-last-game - I think it's how the topic came up in the first place. It's just nice to have names for these things, and once I learn something I get mildly obsessed with it for a short time before it recedes into the background of my mind. Why learn something if you're not gonna put it into use immediately?! >
The point you're responding to was more about the quantity of interactions than the interactions themselves. Sometimes there's a total void vs lots of chatter and the difference can be interesting. Instead, you were both pretty actively engaging with Ghost. I was thinking: the difference in your individual levels of interaction was not significant enough to be readable, even though it was not exactly the same.
Maybe I do feel your interactions are worse? I'll give it some thought today.
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b100ming
Training to become a pro Isabelle in smash
As your mod I decree that the term, sussy-baka is also banned. Anyone who uses this term will be modkilled, thank you.
Geoni's Thunderdome thing. I think I misread what he was proposing and just never let go of my misunderstanding. In retrospect it seems kinda reasonable. More like a gentleman's agreement "Let's get this fight over with now with mutual respect, since Sheep seems more towny to us both and everyone else," than the "There's no way we're unseating Sheep so let's just both die" that I was reading it as.
I think a lot of people suspect me for certain actions I've taken this game (being idle, also sussing Armadillo lover over Ghost for similar reasons, also overexplaining my actions).
Sheep Villager thinks I'm very suspicious and has been on it for almost the entire game. Their arguments and observations are pretty reasonable, and I don't have much in the way of a defense.
I really haven't spotted anything wolfy in Geoni's actions.
I have spotted some things that I thought of as wolfy in Sheep's actions (in my big post), but maybe it's the impartialness speaking.
Regarding Sheep's Ghost vote. The bus feels too perfect, and too mechanically straightforward to execute, for me to discount the possibility of this being a clever wolf play. Sheep posted many times expressing suspicion of Ghost, then initiates the vote on Ghost, and then Ghost is gone. As mafia, I could see this being a very clean bus operation with a huge and really predictable payout. There's basically no risk of anything going wrong for the rest of the game... except getting pinged by the cop. But looking as innocent as Sheep does after that is pretty good anti-cop armour, too.
I think at worst though this is a NAI factor. The possibility isn't likely enough to be suspicious, it's just worth 0 towny points for me since I can see it going either way quite easily.
Geoni: neutral-town by virtue of having done nothing wolfy
Sheep: very very slightly wolfy (but I am biased in a way that I might not be able to see past, as described in the spoiler)
+ everyone else thinks Sheep is very town because of something that I read as NAI.
p.s. I didn't mention these things but I do read both Geoni and Sheep as like, great, high-effort posters who are both interested in solving the mafia puzzle. Honestly the read is very skewed. If I could, I'd be reading them both as town (with Sheep slightly below Geoni), but my read is based on the fact that I know one of them has to be maf.
I think a lot of people suspect me for certain actions I've taken this game (being idle, also sussing Armadillo lover over Ghost for similar reasons, also overexplaining my actions).
Sheep Villager thinks I'm very suspicious and has been on it for almost the entire game. Their arguments and observations are pretty reasonable, and I don't have much in the way of a defense.
I (and my ego) want to see this as mafia painting my actions as extremely mafia-readable and bad towny. But... I think my actions this game just were pretty flawed and extremely mafia-readable and bad towny and I just have to accept that. Even if Sheep is mafia, it would be impossible to manufacture this much suspicion against me... at best, all wolf!Sheep would be doing is fanning the flames. Still, it would feel good to be exonerated even a little bit. Anyway, I haven't been impartial about Sheep.
I really haven't spotted anything wolfy in Geoni's actions.
I have spotted some things that I thought of as wolfy in Sheep's actions (in my big post), but maybe it's the impartialness speaking.
Regarding Sheep's Ghost vote. The bus feels too perfect, and too mechanically straightforward to execute, for me to discount the possibility of this being a clever wolf play. Sheep posted many times expressing suspicion of Ghost, then initiates the vote on Ghost, and then Ghost is gone. As mafia, I could see this being a very clean bus operation with a huge and really predictable payout. There's basically no risk of anything going wrong for the rest of the game... except getting pinged by the cop. But looking as innocent as Sheep does after that is pretty good anti-cop armour, too.
I think at worst though this is a NAI factor. The possibility isn't likely enough to be suspicious, it's just worth 0 towny points for me since I can see it going either way quite easily.
MY READS:
Geoni: neutral-town by virtue of having done nothing wolfy
Sheep: very very slightly wolfy (but I am biased in a way that I might not be able to see past, as described in the spoiler)
+ everyone else thinks Sheep is very town because of something that I read as NAI.
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p.s. I didn't mention these things but I do read both Geoni and Sheep as like, great, high-effort posters who are both interested in solving the mafia puzzle. Honestly the read is very skewed. If I could, I'd be reading them both as town (with Sheep slightly below Geoni), but my read is based on the fact that I know one of them has to be maf.
tessa grace
yeehaw
It's late start at school today so I'm getting ready and finally awake.
However, you said you didn't find much to put against Geoni, but is there anything at all you found slightly suspicious?
I don't think Sheep is very town. You're just way less town than them.
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This seems pretty valid IMO.
However, you said you didn't find much to put against Geoni, but is there anything at all you found slightly suspicious?
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