Coronavirus

i see a lot of people here saying that they're young and healthy so not worried. not to be harsh, but please don't be so ignorant. sickness can attack ANYONE, regardless of being "young and healthy" if you've been following with cases, you'll learn that there's been a few new ones with young and healthy people who both said they don't even smoke or drink or anything and have all been healthy- but what happened to them was first, a simple cold, then got better then was hit with pneumonia really badly to the point where they couldn't walk to the bathroom without having breathing difficulties.

be very careful, the issue is extremely serious and anyone is at risk here.


i'd also like to add: there's no cure right now, and people infected are quarantined in a room alone for days. one of these guys said they've been alone in a small room for 40 days! only having their phones and stuff to talk to people. regardless how you feel about the situation: PLEASE DON'T SPREAD IT.
if you're sick- please wear a mask! stay safe everyone! <3
 
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I understand why some people don't look at this as a big thing, but this virus is spreading really quickly and even tho it's not a huge "disease", a lot of people have and will continue to die from it. Yes, it may be like a "normal" flu like some say, but for some people that's dangerous. I'm not worried about myself, but some family members, already sick people and older people who can't handle getting this virus. And I don't know about how the conditions are other places, but my area don't got that many resources compared to how fast it's spreading, and it's spreading faaaaaaaast. What I'm most worried about is if doctors catch the virus and spread it to their patients (which we had a case of the other way around, a patient was infected but didn't get isolated as the hospital, so now a lot of the staff are put in quarantine). Basically we have few staffs and more people who needs help, so it's not going so good.
 
To think that yesterday morning, we were cracking jokes about the absurdity of it all, and now I'm lying in bed unable to sleep because I'm stuck here wondering if my family and i will even survive the year.

I have asthma. I'm chronic for things like strep throat. I literally popped my lung open just last month (for the record, pneumomediastinums suck, don't take your ability to breathe for granted). My only barrier is the fact that I hardly leave the house. However, the rest of my family does. My mom and brother both have asthma and other respiratory problems like me. My brother is in high school. My mom is always running errands. And my dad is a plumber, and we can only guess at whatever he'll end up bringing home because of whatever conditions his bosses make him work in. We'd been planning to visit my grandfather in Oregon on spring break-- but he's immuno-compromised, and my step-grandmother is a nurse who has to help treat patients while trying to keep him safe all at once.

Last week, I didn't believe it. Certainly it's not that bad, right? It can't be spreading that quickly. It won't come here...

Today was the first day I was actually scared about it. That was not a good feeling, and now it won't go away. I know panic makes everything worse, and yet I'm sitting here wondering if everything will ever be "okay" again.

All I can do, what any of us can do really, is hope for the best and prepare for the worst (but don't hog all of the sanitation products, or no one will be able to get clean).
 
Looks like all you state college students in New York will be able to play ACNH more now that all SUNY schools are moving online. Leave time for studying though and stay safe!
 
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New Horizons can’t come sooner, I really need something to take my mind off this and just life in general right now.
 
I keep thinking its going to get better by April, but I always have a feeling this will come back again before a vaccine is made.
 
Well, it happened today. Somebody at work was sick so they shut down the whole building and sent us home. We have to work from home the rest of this week at least while they confirm whether or not the person is actually infected with the virus. They don't even know for sure yet, just that they had cold-like symptoms. We'll find out this weekend if we'll have to stay at home long-term or not.
 
Well, it happened today. Somebody at work was sick so they shut down the whole building and sent us home. We have to work from home the rest of this week at least while they confirm whether or not the person is actually infected with the virus. They don't even know for sure yet, just that they had cold-like symptoms. We'll find out this weekend if we'll have to stay at home long-term or not.

Amazing.

My university is still open despite a confirmed case last week.

I was sent home sick from work with symptoms that align with the virus last week and still off while a doctor figures out what is actually wrong. At no point have they actually tested me for this virus though.
 
I don't have a flu but I've been coughing. Does that mean anything?
 
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I don't have a flu but I've been coughing. Does that mean anything?

Coughing alone isn't usually a symptom of the virus as far as I'm aware, it generally brings with it flu symptoms as well (aches, fatigue, fever, shortness of breath) but if you're unsure contact your local health service/doctors etc and they will advise you better than anyone on here can. :lemon:

but yeah my work is very on the ball with this. they're introducing temperature scanners as a general precaution, and those who feel unwell with a high temperature are being sent home with advice to speak to doctors. we have antibacterial wipes at each department to clean desks every couple of days, and lots of hand gel... we can't use cloths in the communal kitchen and have to use paper towels. at first i thought it was overkill but i'm glad they're taking all the precautions.
 
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Is shortness of breath possible as an initial symptom?

I don't have a fever or a dry cough (or aches or fatigue.. Well no more fatigue than usual) but this evening I've been feeling kinda breathless. (like I need to take bigger breathes)

On the other hand I've kinda been having some anxiety about this so maybe it's related to that.
 
Is shortness of breath possible as an initial symptom?

I don't have a fever or a dry cough (or aches or fatigue.. Well no more fatigue than usual) but this evening I've been feeling kinda breathless. (like I need to take bigger breathes)

On the other hand I've kinda been having some anxiety about this so maybe it's related to that.

SOB is one of the symptoms, but if that is your only symptom it may be due to your stated anxiety or allergies. If you start to develop coughing or a fever or if the breathing becomes more of a serious issue go get checked.

At the end of the day you are the one who knows your body the best! This sort of question is better to ask your doctor than the forum, we can not give you proper medical advice or know everything about this disease/its process c: if you truly feel as though you can not breath, not that it is an anxiety attack, then I would go seek care.
 
Working at a place that sells toilet paper right now is just great :/
 
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my university has given us an extended spring break/possible online classes, but there is a college nearby that has completely terminated their semester because of coronavirus. they announced it the other day that by the end of this week all classes should take final exams & they will just be done with it. it's kinda crazy how drastic these measures are. i understand that it's spreading quickly, but like a lot of people are saying....they don't shut down colleges for the flu, which is rampant just about every year.
 
my university has given us an extended spring break/possible online classes, but there is a college nearby that has completely terminated their semester because of coronavirus. they announced it the other day that by the end of this week all classes should take final exams & they will just be done with it. it's kinda crazy how drastic these measures are. i understand that it's spreading quickly, but like a lot of people are saying....they don't shut down colleges for the flu, which is rampant just about every year.

I know temple in Philly is changing their classes to online courses but also just notified students today or yesterday that they need to be off campus by sunday..... which is crazy because not everyone has housing during the semesters or may not be able to afford to get home/have someone to get them.

I am hoping these colleges closing super early in the semester are offering refunds for the lost time in classes. I mean we are only halfway through; I cant imagine losing an entire half a semester of information needed for my future profession.
 
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Since people are starting to talk about symptoms, this might be an interesting read (about the progression of the virus):

The new coronavirus causes little more than a cough if it stays in the nose and throat, which it does for the majority of people unlucky enough to be infected. Danger starts when it reaches the lungs.

One in seven patients develops difficulty breathing and other severe complications, while 6% become critical. These patients typically suffer failure of the respiratory and other vital systems, and sometimes develop septic shock, according to a report by last month’s joint World Health Organization-China mission.

The progression from mild or moderate to severe can occur “very, very quickly,” said Bruce Aylward, a WHO assistant director-general who co-led a mission in China that reviewed data from 56,000 cases. Understanding the course of the disease and identifying individuals at greatest risk are critical for optimizing care for a global contagion that’s killed more than 3,700 people since emerging in central China in December.

About 10-15% of mild-to-moderate patients progress to severe and of those, 15-20% progress to critical. Patients at highest risk include people age 60 and older and those with pre-existing conditions such as hypertension, diabetes and cardiovascular disease.

“The clinical picture suggests a pattern of disease that’s not dissimilar to what we might see in influenza,” said Jeffery K. Taubenberger, who studied the infection in Spanish flu victims, including one exhumed more than 20 years ago from permafrost in northwestern Alaska.

Covid-19 most likely spreads via contact with virus-laden droplets expelled from an infected person’s cough, sneeze or breath

Infection generally starts in the nose. Once inside the body, the coronavirus invades the epithelial cells that line and protect the respiratory tract, said Taubenberger, who heads the viral pathogenesis and evolution section of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases in Bethesda, Maryland. If it’s contained in the upper airway, it usually results in a less severe disease.

But if the virus treks down the windpipe to the peripheral branches of the respiratory tree and lung tissue, it can trigger a more severe phase of the disease. That’s due to the pneumonia-causing damage inflicted directly by the virus plus secondary damage caused by the body’s immune response to the infection.

“Your body is immediately trying to repair the damage in the lung as soon as it’s happening,” Taubenberger said. Various white blood cells that consume pathogens and help heal damaged tissue act as first-responders. “Normally, if this goes well, you can clear up your infection in just a few days.”

In some more-severe coronavirus infections, the body’s effort to heal itself may be too robust, leading to the destruction of not just virus-infected cells, but healthy tissue, Taubenberger said. Damage to the epithelium lining the trachea and bronchi can result in the loss of protective mucus-producing cells as well as the tiny hairs, or cilia, that sweep dirt and respiratory secretions out of the lungs.

“You have no ability to keep stuff out of the lower respiratory tract,” Taubenberger said. As a result, the lungs are vulnerable to an invasive secondary bacterial infection. Potential culprits include the germs normally harbored in the nose and throat, and the antibiotic-resistant bacteria that thrive in hospitals, especially the moist environments of mechanical ventilators.

Secondary bacterial infections represent an especially pernicious threat because they can kill critical respiratory tract stem cells that enable tissue to rejuvenate. Without them, “you just can’t physically repair your lungs,” Taubenberger said. Damaged lungs can starve vital organs of oxygen, impairing the kidneys, liver, brain and heart.

“When you get a bad, overwhelming infection, everything starts to fall apart in a cascade,” said David Morens, senior scientific adviser to the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. “You pass the tipping point where everything is going downhill and, at some point, you can’t get it back.”

That tipping point probably also occurs earlier in older people, as it does in experiments with older mice, said Stanley Perlman, a professor of microbiology and immunology at the University of Iowa in Iowa City, who has studied coronaviruses for 38 years.

Still, even healthy younger adults have succumbed to the illness. Li Wenliang, the 34-year-old ophthalmologist who was one of the first to warn about the coronavirus in Wuhan, died last month after receiving antibodies, antivirals, antibiotics, oxygen and having his blood pumped through an artificial lung.

Some people may be more genetically susceptible, possibly because they have a greater abundance of the distinctly shaped protein receptors in their respiratory epithelial cells that the virus targets, Taubenberger said. It’s also possible certain individuals have some minor immunodeficiency or other host factors that relate to underlying illnesses.

Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...s-fatal-tipping-point-when-lungs-are-inflamed

And here is the progression of infections (cases) in some countries in Europe, starting from the day of 30 reported cases each:
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