Mafia Forest Fire Mafia - Town Win- Endgame

[PandaDarling]

Hey when does day end

thats all ?

Who do you think we should lynch Kit ?

 

[Minties]

Minties we're doing plurality not majority

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i mean monroe

Oh I misread the lynching because usually a tie = no lynch. Just assumed it was like that.

Reads:

Claiming doused and saved.

Brings up a good point, since it's impossible to know if Mintites lied about it, and instead a random inactive was doused, or if Minties was or wasn't doused.

Mafia can't douse their own kind; true. But mafia can lie about being doused, and they can lie about being saved.
You also haven't posted and contributed much that pushes anyone in any certain direction, and you were the first to claim doused, which makes me suspect you.

So far, I'm seeing Minties as 50/50 town/scum; Tom, Dannyboi, Oath, and Trojan as townie; and Panda, Ayayayayay, and White Claw as most likely scum.

I meant to put Trojan with Minties on the 50/50 scum/town; I was in a rush typing that since I'm also studying rn and I'm having issues with remembering some things

True, I just find it odd how she quickly claimed doused and saved. I guess her wording in her original post claiming it gave me a gut feeling.

...But Minties is 50/50 scum/town because of her douse and save claim? And Tom was pushing you because of your sus behavior though... okay...

Um... when someone's considered sus by a vet player, and the vet seems semi-trustable that game, they're often lynched and usually turn out scum. So, in a way, the first sentence is sorta false. Second sentence.... he's scumhunting. Third sentence makes me believe the scum-hunting tactic is fake. What about Tom/Danny and Panda/Ayayayayay; or are you just ignoring the tennis match between them? Right there is a ton of info to go by. I can see definite sides forming: Pandy/Ayayayay/Trundle and Tom/Danny/Minties. In my honest opinion, lynching Trundle will show who's 'team' seems to be the least trustworthy; and even if he is town and lynched, he hasn't helped town much other than defending himself, and trying to prove Tom is scum.

Sorry for the long wait, that was a lot to read and review. I'm gonna be studying now, so I'll review and respond later tonight/tomorrow.

First of all, the way you reply actually makes my brain hurt. Almost as bad as people that reply inside the quotes with bold info. Snipped out the random crap that was just game overview like Trundle does and I have to ask... have you lost your mind? I haven't pushed anyone in any certain direction? I'm sure you missed the part where I put Trundle's name in red and have gone after him for half of the game. To me this reeks of a nub mafia player getting yelled at by their team and trying to discredit me because I called you out. You made a mistake though of not reading the thread and using faulty logic. I claimed SAVED from dousing, not just being doused. There aren't many people that are actually inactive, so if I was lying, then there would have been a CC. The doctor could have even claimed I was lying and you guys would have had guaranteed mafia to kill, but guess what? They didn't because I'm not bloody lying, you walnut.

The sides comment is probably the dumbest thing I have ever read. This is a no PM game, how the **** would we know if people agreeing with us are town or mafia unless we were all detectives? For a long post, it's a lot of fluff and doesn't actually accuse people of much. You're just giving a play by play of what has happened so far. I wouldn't be surprised if you're now posting because your scum team got on your ass for being inactive. Also, if me claiming that I was saved gave you a gut feeling, then you should go to the doctor and get your gut checked.

Well, in order to disprove it, a doctor needs to out themselves. There's also a good chance the doctor is too shy or afraid of dying to step up, etc. I've claimed protection N1 as mafia in older games before. It generally worked a bit better when the games were bigger.

That's also stupid as hell. This is not my first rodeo and there's only 17 players in this game. That's a good chance that there's only one doctor. Why would I risk my life on a doctor claiming I'm a liar at the very beginning of day two? I'm not an idiot and that's a terrible tactic. Please do not reveal yourself in the thread unless it's dire, person that's the doctor.

1. I'm waiting until Day to post it, actually, I don't want to risk being targeted by arsonists
2. If you see my previous post before this one, I admitted that I was biased on my views on them and is considering other players instead. I know pushing Daniel & Tom makes me suspicious but I thought posting my reads would at least get other players to post theirs and I was trying to learn how to scumhunt, and I can't do that if I bandwagon or stay silent.

Also is there a way you can see all the posts one user makes in a thread? That would make rounding up posts a lot easier

It is day. You keep promising posts are coming with no delivery. Still waiting.

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Ness has said multiple times that you are told if you were doused or if you were saved from being doused or ignited.

I don't know why all of you seemed to have forgotten that. Think about it this way: this game is hard for mafia to win because Ness does PM players that are doused in gas. Each night they can apparently douse two (Trojan and myself were the only claims), so that means the possible list of mafia shrinks by three each day and night cycle. Two doused and one lynched. It's really only a matter of time until red is struck because time is on town's side this game.

I would be satisfied with either a Trundle or Dolby lynch today.

 

[Kit]

not another 25 hours, why?

K good
I had it in my mind that it ended tonight lol

As for the Dolby thing they've made like, 3 posts.
So other than them being inactive & creepily lurking I don't really have much of a reason to vote for them rn. But then again I voted for Starry so what do I know.
My vote is leaning towards Trundle due to the feud with Tom & Mint. I'm not gonna type up a whole case now but his responses so far have been really strange. Ayaya's is showing more towards the middle than on either side still.
Right now I have my vote on ness because please they're obvious arso. Waiting for more info.
I'm not clearing Tom either

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Mint why did you post b4 me

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To what Mint said, I agree with you. You're my strongest 99% town read at the moment.
If there's anyone who's opinion we can trust, it's Minties.

More in depth later maybe, on mobile atm.

 

[Trojan]

Placing my vote for danny, dont care what any of you say.

 

[N e s s]

Now that I think about it, I think PMing people if they were doused or not is a bit town sided. I don't know if I should take that out for now, because I don't want mafia to die because of them using their powers.

If anyone feels I shouldn't do this, PM me about it because it will be implimented at night if nobody tells me.

 

[Kit]

Placing my vote for danny, dont care what any of you say.

Um, what?

 

[Ayaya]

@Minties My timezone is GMT+7 and I just woke up like an hour ago lol

 

[PandaDarling]

but if we don't know we're doused we can just go up in flames all of a sudden... all of us ? ha what the heck.

 

[Damniel]

Um, what?

I learned to just tune out anything he says anymore.

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but if we don't know we're doused we can just go up in flames all of a sudden... all of us ? ha what the heck.

Yeah but it would take a lot of days to douse us all without killing anyone so they can either kill who they can or use the night to douse more, leaves more time to find them though.

 

[Minties]

@Minties My timezone is GMT+7 and I just woke up like an hour ago lol

and I'm in GMT+10, so what? I also work and have a new kitten. You have 25 hours to post though something, so I'm still waiting.

 

[Damniel]

Trundle is so odvious in bring scum it's funny. I'll tell you guys why when I post my reads when I'm not lazy but Dolby is also pretty odvious to be scum too, like trundle dousing minties and Dolby blue snipping Trojan makes sense to me, still think we should lynch Dolby first but I won't fight to not get trundle lynched.

 

[oath2order]

plz stop saying "when im not lazy"

and post ur reads

 

[Damniel]

Also I'm pretty sure Trojan is indeed a blue role because he's been doing nothing which makes me think he's just scarf thing his ads and depending on his action to find scum, hence why he hasn't done anything to help town otherwise.

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plz stop saying "when im not lazy"

and post ur reads

Why take so long to write tho

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They

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Scratching his ass*

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Scratching his ass*

 

[PandaDarling]

I learned to just tune out anything he says anymore.

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Yeah but it would take a lot of days to douse us all without killing anyone so they can either kill who they can or use the night to douse more, leaves more time to find them though.

leaves more time to find them ? or leaves more time for them to kill us off ? why would you want to give mafia more time ? don't we want to find them in the shortest amount of time..... hmmmmmm ..... ?

 

[glow]

my thoughts on Trundle:

Quite aggressive, impulsive and contradicting behavior

I don't understand why he gets so upset when questioned. He doesn?t take enough time to explain his thought process so of course we are going to suspect him. He is always so certain of himself, instead of saying ?I am suspicious of X, here?s why.? He won't explain his reasoning unless asked to. He told me that he explained why he suspects Tom before he actually did.

He is very critical of everyone's suspicions, except his own.

1) I suspect Tom because of his behaviour. It is the only thing I can go off of right now because only Starry has been lynched so far and no one else has died. As I've said before, I've played so many games with Tom. Most older players try super hard to get me out early when they are mafia because they know I'm going to call them out and stop their team from winning, which is exactly what they are trying to do right now. His basis for thinking I'm scum is a) only posting 4 times during Day 1 (which is actually quite common for me to lay back Day 1 as I know it's not worth putting that much effort into, I can cite countless games I do this as townie if you want), b) Not somehow magically lynching scum right away. Both of these points are literally nothing and he is instantly ASSUMING I am scum for little to no reason. It would be perfectly reasonable for him to be suspicious of me, but outright believing me to be scum and pushing me is completely baseless and scummy. That's why I think he is scum.

Tom pointed out his really quick decision to townread Daniel & vote me very early into the game. That is suspicious.

He told me I was bangwagoning Daniel with a ?quick reaction? to his ?obviously town posts? without considering for half a second that maybe, just maybe, I was trying to end the shtposting and scumhunt?? Y?know, that thing you?re supposed to do as town?

The reasoning he gave to not suspect Daniel was that he doesn?t joke around when he?s mafia. Well Daniel has only been mafia once, and he was lynched D1 so why on earth would he play the same way that he did in that game??

And oh come on. Tom does not suspect him because he did not lynch scum D1. Trundle is sus because as town, even on D1, with ?nothing to go on? you?re going to AT LEAST try to get rid of the most threatening/harmful player. If he would have waited to vote me at least until I got the chance to reply to him, I?d feel differently about him, but he didn?t. He wasted his vote & that?s not very town-like.

Me being suspicious of someone is not equal to them being scum. I aggressively push people because people tend to slip up and reveal information that proves them mafia more than a very mild passive aggressive suspicion would. We have pretty much nothing to go off of this game so far so I'm making the best of what I have.

So basically, I?m scummy for making a light accusation of Daniel D1 but Trundle is town for instantly voting me based on 1 post I made.

It?s a-okay for him to make accusations based on little evidence, because ?there?s not much to go on?. He uses this phrase to his advantage in every way he can. He undermines everybody?s case on him by saying that there is little to nothing to go on, but supports his cases with the fact that he?s going on ?the best of what he has?.

 

[Damniel]

leaves more time to find them ? or leaves more time for them to kill us off ? why would you want to give mafia more time ? don't we want to find them in the shortest amount of time..... hmmmmmm ..... ?

I'm just telling you how dousing and igniting works

 

[Ayaya]

First of, why I started suspecting Daniel

Since not all the players have posted(maybe they didn't know the game started or haven't bothered), I'd say starry is actually a good lynch. Reason being she only posted once saying she was going to be away. Why would she bother to post if she's not going to be here? Maybe it's to avoid detection when people wondered why she's not active(she does have boarding school but it seems like she's just giving an excuse). Either she shows little interest in this game to actually play all the way, or she's just scum trying to go under the radar. Even if she is town, she'd be a good lynch. Since her constant inactivity usually just confusing town on what she's doing.

Kinda going off on the little we have besides the sht posting, but my point on her confusing town regardless of alignment is from post games.

No, I'm saying since she has boarding school and knows she will be inactive in all the games she signs up for, she screws town over. In all games she has screwed someone over with her not being online. If she can't be active a lot why does she sign up I do not know. But it will help us in the long run. She didn't even do anything to this game other than "Hey guys imma be offline now bye" she could be trying to get us to ignore her if she's scum.

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I know it's not the strongest case, but what else do we have to go on?

He said starry will be a good lynch because her inactivity confuses people, will screw town over, and that she?s probably scum trying to avoid detection. What I find odd with this reasoning was that he thinks starry might be scum from her few posts and one telling everyone they?ll be away. Meanwhile few players are also inactive but didn?t even explain their reason like Starry at that point, why is Starry suspicious for warning people vs people who are just lurking? Again, I think you were going for an easy mislynch with Starry.

No one brought up a case on me either, other than "This lynch is stupid imma vote you"

He kept repeating this and blaming town for the Starry mislynch, yet starting a mislynch bandwagon is scummy?s usual tactic and worth being suspecting. People pointed that out and that seems like a good case to me when it?s still early in the game.

Since it's the first night, people can only be douse for now. Next nights is when people will actually be killed if you're waiting to see who dies this night.

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At least that's how I think it works from reading the role list.

And this post confirms my suspicion. I was about to reply ?lol thank you for telling us your scum plan tonight? but then held back because this is a forest fire setup so everyone would guess that. But then he added the second half. This looks to me like:

?Scum?s plan tonight is to douse people not ignite them yet

I mean that?s what I read from the rolelist, haha, I?m not scum at all!?

The rest will come later, I haven?t gone through everyone?s posts yet.

 

[Dolby]

bro who ever ****ing doused me is dead m8

Why the hell would anybody douse you?

When I was scum with Dolby last game, he read Trojan well and said he was a blue role who should be killed. I'm guessing he was doused for being blue read by Dolby/experienced player.

Also, please recall that Kit accidently confirmed Trojan as vig

Dolby why didn't you vote D1?

Because I thought I had more time to post and my parents had movie tickets that I thought we had to leave an hour later for, oops on my part

I'm going to do my reads whenever I get on my computer, but I think we should lynch Dolby tonight.
Reasons being:
1. Posted very little, only sht posting until N1 or was just silent

So had literally 50% of the playerlist

4. Like I said before, he was most likely blue snipping for kill candidates and compared Trojans Blue meta to his town meta, like he did in reindeer Mafia, and thought Trojan may be a blue role and went for him.

You were on my scum team last game and you should know this. I was against killing Trojan night one, even though he was a confirmed vig by Kit, and more inclined to kill Blu Rose because I knew that Trojan would do little in the thread to harm us and was shooting town. As mafia, I am more inclined to kill players who are actual threats.

5. Went back to silent and hasn't said a word since.

I have a life outside of mafia and haven't been able to come online until now(I went downhill skiing today, it was awesome).

After reading through past games, I feel more inclined to think that Trundle is town as compared to scum, I will post why in a bit.

 

[Damniel]

First of, why I started suspecting Daniel


He said starry will be a good lynch because her inactivity confuses people, will screw town over, and that she’s probably scum trying to avoid detection. What I find odd with this reasoning was that he thinks starry might be scum from her few posts and one telling everyone they’ll be away. Meanwhile few players are also inactive but didn’t even explain their reason like Starry at that point, why is Starry suspicious for warning people vs people who are just lurking? Again, I think you were going for an easy mislynch with Starry.


He kept repeating this and blaming town for the Starry mislynch, yet starting a mislynch bandwagon is scummy’s usual tactic and worth being suspecting. People pointed that out and that seems like a good case to me when it’s still early in the game.



And this post confirms my suspicion. I was about to reply “lol thank you for telling us your scum plan tonight” but then held back because this is a forest fire setup so everyone would guess that. But then he added the second half. This looks to me like:

“Scum’s plan tonight is to douse people not ignite them yet

I mean that’s what I read from the rolelist, haha, I’m not scum at all!”

The rest will come later, I haven’t gone through everyone’s posts yet.

I mean lynching any inactive could be considered an easy lynch because they're inactive.

I'm not blaming town for the mislynch, but don't blame me for all of it when no one did anything if they thought it was a bad lynch.

The way panda worded her waiting for night to end and see who died, made me think she didn't know this was an arsonist game. I mean no one can be ignited without being doused so i'm pretty sure everyone who knows how arsonists work would know that's the plan for that night, so i told her no one could die that night. I didn't know what arson games where until this game so the role list is all i really knew about how it worked. Is getting my info from the rolelist scummy?

 

[glow]

plz stop saying "when im not lazy"

and post ur reads

wbu oath wheres ur reads