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I really just think it's silly so many people get offended by what other people choose to identify themselves as. If anything, it's quite hypocritical. I'd be fine with calling someone whatever they wanted to be called. I don't really know what my gender identify is at the moment. I'm absolutely fine with classifying as male and being male, but I also feel like I don't care either way. I mean, I could easily see myself being a cross-dresser, because I'm absolutely oblivious to gender roles, and I don't necessarily wish to associate my appearance or personality on that of any gender. I hate labels, but it would be interesting to know what this was. My sexuality isn't as complex. I feel like I could have a temporary romantic relationship with a woman. The reason I say temporary is because I could not imagine myself having a sexual relationship with a woman, and sexuality is something I want to experience, and I think I could only ever be happy spending my life with a man, both romantically and sexually.




Agreed. Also, I love Bj?rk.

Firstly, I want to say, how cute.
I'm not offended by anything, I haven't been insulted. Maybe that's the type of tone you're getting base of my typing but I'm pretty fine actually. If I were to describe how I was feeling, it would be curious cause I'm asking questions. It's not "mean" questions but I did stated that I will be blunt and may come off rude. I do find it quite adorable that you think I'm being hyprocritcal, like what? Also your lil background you did of yourself was adorable also. This was cute u vu/
 
Firstly, I want to say, how cute.
I'm not offended by anything, I haven't been insulted. Maybe that's the type of tone you're getting base of my typing but I'm pretty fine actually. If I were to describe how I was feeling, it would be curious cause I'm asking questions. It's not "mean" questions but I did stated that I will be blunt and may come off rude. I do find it quite adorable that you think I'm being hyprocritcal, like what? Also your lil background you did of yourself was adorable also. This was cute u vu/

Wait, what? No! I'm so sorry! I didn't mean you were being hypocritical! I was just talking about in general, since everyone seemed to be going on about if it was right or wrong to identify as queer. I'm so sorry!
 
Depends on the individual and the delivery. I thought it was a slur used for the gay community, so it depends. It's not either good or bad but at a neutral stance.

And no need to apologize, it was a misunderstanding. I'm learning new things, so that's good ig.
 
You ever seen a long post and be like "damn, I don't want to read that/ so much"
I already got a good grasp in what nonbinary is tbh.
For a agender, they just don't use characteristics that would place them under male or female(gender), such a manly, or feminine, or girly, etc etc eyc

Bigender is someone who uses both the characteristics of male and female, "oh he's pretty girly" or "she's quite tough" etc etc etc

Sorry for being elaborate I guess...

I honestly disagree with the notion that a bigender person is someone who's both "girly" and "tough", because a characteristic such as "tough" isn't strictly a male characteristic, but rather it's been socialized to be associated with males, just as being into princesses and what not is socialized to be associated with females. I have some manly characteristics in my attitude, I'm a bit gruff and into things that males may typically like, but I also have a lot of girly characteristics, like how shyness is typically associated with girls. I also like girly things like the color pink and magical girl shows. However, simply having characteristics that are deemed "male" or "female" does not define your gender, so someone being manly and girly doesn't mean they're bigender.

Bigender typically refers to someone who is or desires to be both the male and female sex, which can also mean that the bigender individual also desires both male and female sex characteristics. Bigender =/= liking stuff socialized for boys and girls. All of this applies to agender as well, as agender individuals typically do not identify as either sex nor do they want any sexual characteristics. It has nothing to do with their interests. An agender individual can be assigned female, like things associated with females, and still be agender if they feel that their assigned gender does not line up with what they truly feel they are.

Genderfluid also does not equal bigender. A bigender individual is someone who is both sexes at the same time and desires both of those sexual characteristics at the sametime. A genderfluid individual is someone whose gender isn't stagnant. Their gender identity may switch from them being male, to them being agender, to them being female, etc., whilst bigender people are strictly male and female identifying without a switch between them.

I know this is long but it's not something I feel can be explained with smaller paragraphs.
 
Sorry for being elaborate I guess...

I honestly disagree with the notion that a bigender person is someone who's both "girly" and "tough", because a characteristic such as "tough" isn't strictly a male characteristic, but rather it's been socialized to be associated with males, just as being into princesses and what not is socialized to be associated with females. I have some manly characteristics in my attitude, I'm a bit gruff and into things that males may typically like, but I also have a lot of girly characteristics, like how shyness is typically associated with girls. I also like girly things like the color pink and magical girl shows. However, simply having characteristics that are deemed "male" or "female" does not define your gender, so someone being manly and girly doesn't mean they're bigender.

Bigender typically refers to someone who is or desires to be both the male and female sex, which can also mean that the bigender individual also desires both male and female sex characteristics. Bigender =/= liking stuff socialized for boys and girls. All of this applies to agender as well, as agender individuals typically do not identify as either sex nor do they want any sexual characteristics. It has nothing to do with their interests. An agender individual can be assigned female, like things associated with females, and still be agender if they feel that their assigned gender does not line up with what they truly feel they are.

Genderfluid also does not equal bigender. A bigender individual is someone who is both sexes at the same time and desires both of those sexual characteristics at the sametime. A genderfluid individual is someone whose gender isn't stagnant. Their gender identity may switch from them being male, to them being agender, to them being female, etc., whilst bigender people are strictly male and female identifying without a switch between them.

I know this is long but it's not something I feel can be explained with smaller paragraphs.

No you were elaborate, I just have a short attention span and I lose interest real quick, that's why I made that comment.
Im getting a grasp of it, I guess.
 
So uh, picked up this book about this girl finding her best friend's murderer. Didn't expect it to be about lesbians.
But they were in love. And were gay. And oh man.
It was beautifully written.. With flashbacks letting us know more about the dead best friend. And tbh, if it wasn't 2am RN, I'd be crying about it. Because it captures life of gay teens very well. Unless you don't do drugs. Then maybe not.

It's called Far From You btw if you're interested.
 
I feel so ashamed for liking girls.

I used to be OK with my sexual orientation but since I came out to my mother (who has been acting weird since then), I feel so bad about it. Ugh. I should have never told her to begin with. I thought I could trust her because she said that she supported queer people but apparently, when your own daughter is queer, it's not so OK anymore. I hate hypocrites.
 
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I feel so ashamed for liking girls.

I used to be OK with my sexual orientation but since I came out to my mother (who has been acting weird since then), I feel so bad about it. Ugh. I should have never told her to begin with. I thought I could trust her because she said that she supported queer people but apparently, when your own daughter is queer, it's not so OK anymore. I hate hypocrites.

[size=-2]Sorry that you're going through that. :( But never feel ashamed of who you are. There's definitely no excuse for your mom to feel the way she does, but I will say to you and to others try to understand that as a parent, they have a certain mindset/picture of their child that they've had since you were just a little potato. It doesn't make it right that she's acting weird around you, but I'm sure she still loves you very much. It might just take her a little while to get over the set image she has of you. I would say just keep being yourself and show her that you are who you are, and you love her, but maybe talk to her about it; Say exactly what you said here, that you thought you could trust her with the information you gave, and that you were hoping she would react better. [/size]
 
hey! i've been seeing people equate gender to sex but they aren't the same thing. gender is an idea, just because someone is a certain gender (ex: agender) doesn't mean they want to have no sexual organs or do not want to be sexual BECAUSE nonbinary genders do not influence your sexual organs. if somebody discovered they were agender, that doesn't mean that they want to change or to have no sexual organs...it means that they feel a lack of gender mentally and spiritually. does that make sense? gender is spiritual and mental, while sex is physical. they are both very flexible things but they are not the same!
 
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hey! i've been seeing people equate gender to sex but they aren't the same thing. gender is an idea, just because someone is a certain gender (ex: agender) doesn't mean they want to have no sexual organs. does that make sense? gender is spiritual and mental, while sex is physical. they are both very flexible things but they are not the same!

yea it makes sense like i used to identify as agender but i was fine with my sex it doesnt matter
 
Both a gay and bisexual friend of mine have asked me what I identify as before the end of school. First off, I'm a cis female. I've thought about being a male or a demi-guy/girl, but nonetheless I love being a female. I honestly can't say I fit with any label when it comes to my sexuality. Even questioning or straight. When I tried to explain this to them, I remember them telling me to identify as a bisexual and see where that takes me. My family and I are huge allies and my former school and new school have GSAs. I've only been attracted to guys in terms of certain people. Labels do not concerning me, whether they're placed on me BY me or not. I could care less if someone things I'm a lesbian. Being one doesn't dictate anything other than who I like. I'm an ally to all, and that's the only thing that matters to other people.
 
I do love how certain things are specfically towards me but instead of being more direct, it's the complete opposite. I also hate that "down with cis" tag, that's annoying. But anyways, I been figure out the concept of what the nonbinary term was so that was pretty useless to re-explain but thank you??? I also don't take these things seriously, people constantly change everyday, what you believe you are now can be entirely different years later, so no biggie brah.
 
I do love how certain things are specfically towards me but instead of being more direct, it's the complete opposite. I also hate that "down with cis" tag, that's annoying. But anyways, I been figure out the concept of what the nonbinary term was so that was pretty useless to re-explain but thank you??? I also don't take these things seriously, people constantly change everyday, what you believe you are now can be entirely different years later, so no biggie brah.

[size=-2]If you weren't quoted, it probably wasn't directed towards you. But if it was, it doesn't really show unless you've had discussion or encounters with the person outside this forum. People are allowed to post repeat answers to questions others may have asked; this thread as 332 pages and is just tedious to sort through.

I also don't understand the 'down with cis' tag, unless I'm missing a joke or meme or something. Not sure what it's implying or if it's supposed to be ironic/satirical.[/size]
 
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the down with cis is a joke. there was a post on tumblr where someone said that he and his friend were on a bus full of trans people with t shirts saying down with cis. he then said he and his friend were beaten by everyone on the bus and sent to the hospital
 
[size=-2]If you weren't quoted, it probably wasn't directed towards you. But if it was, it doesn't really show unless you've had discussion or encounters with the person outside this forum. People are allowed to post repeat answers to questions others may have asked; this thread as 332 pages and is just tedious to sort through.

I also don't understand the 'down with cis' tag, unless I'm missing a joke or meme or something. Not sure what it's implying or if it's supposed to be ironic/satirical.[/size]

I was discussing this topic awhile back, most recently actually if you were to click back a few pages. I don't believe someone will review my response and go back within those "332" pages to find more references to explain their specification, that's why I stated what I said. And down with cis is just a term for people who's gender identity matches their anatomical gender at birth(joke about a guy and his friend wearing shirts called "down with cis" filled with a bus full of trans people), it's not even a joke tbh. Also where "nonbinary" sorta started(mostly on tumblr).
 
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I was discussing this topic awhile back, most recently actually if you were to click back a few pages. I don't believe someone will review my response and go back within those "332" pages to find more references to explain their specification, that's why I stated what I said. And down with cis is just a downgrading term for people who's gender identity matches their anatomical gender at birth, also where "nonbinary" sorta started(mostly on tumblr).

nonbinary didnt start on tumblr. there has always been people who didnt identify as a girl or a boy before the internet was even a thing. also im pretty sure before some cultures were colonized that they didnt have a strict gender binary like the western world does today.
 
nonbinary didnt start on tumblr. there has always been people who didnt identify as a girl or a boy before the internet was even a thing. also im pretty sure before some cultures were colonized that they didnt have a strict gender binary like the western world does today.

The term surfaced, I'm not saying the word didn't exist but tumblr is a mainstream site so ofc it'll pop up there. That's why people were like "THERE'S A WORD FROM THIS". You second sentence...eh?
 
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tbh, i've always thought that the "down with cis" joke was hilarious. it isn't hurting anyone, i don't think.
 
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