LGBTQA - Discussion and support.

[visibleghost]

you know when people use gay as an insult and then when they get called out they are all like "SO IS IT BAD TO SAY GAY NOW OMG -___-" yeah, this super ****ty kid who i hate did that in music class yesterday and i stopped myself from picking up a chair and hitting him in the face with it i feel like such a fairy. instead i yelled at him for being a homophobe but i don't really think he cared lmao

another fun thing, most people at my school are transphobic af. ha hah. i'm getting so fed up w hearing all these comments and things they call each other and other people, honestly it would be great if all the ignorant cis ppl at my school would accidentally get hit by a train because then i wouldn't have to be around them anymore : )

idk i just felt like ranting a bit. does anyone have any nice experience as being lgbtq+ that they could share so i could get a lil faith in humanity back or something idk

 

[tae]

you know when people use gay as an insult and then when they get called out they are all like "SO IS IT BAD TO SAY GAY NOW OMG -___-" yeah, this super ****ty kid who i hate did that in music class yesterday and i stopped myself from picking up a chair and hitting him in the face with it i feel like such a fairy. instead i yelled at him for being a homophobe but i don't really think he cared lmao

another fun thing, most people at my school are transphobic af. ha hah. i'm getting so fed up w hearing all these comments and things they call each other and other people, honestly it would be great if all the ignorant cis ppl at my school would accidentally get hit by a train because then i wouldn't have to be around them anymore : )

idk i just felt like ranting a bit. does anyone have any nice experience as being lgbtq+ that they could share so i could get a lil faith in humanity back or something idk

as much as i agree that transphobia and homophobia sucks complete ass, i don't really agree with the comments of "i wish cis people would get hit by a train", trust me i understand how much it sucks to not be accepted for who you are and how frustrated it can be.. but wishing death upon anyone is just as bad as hating someone for being who they are if not worse. but that's just my opinion.

just let karma get their ass, don't need to stoop to the hatred level of the ignorant.

 

[visibleghost]

as much as i agree that transphobia and homophobia sucks complete ass, i don't really agree with the comments of "i wish cis people would get hit by a train", trust me i understand how much it sucks to not be accepted for who you are and how frustrated it can be.. but wishing death upon anyone is just as bad as hating someone for being who they are if not worse. but that's just my opinion.

just let karma get their ass, don't need to stoop to the hatred level of the ignorant.

yah, well i wont actually hit them w a train and i just say that bc im frustrated lmao. but honestly cis ppl suck
it's just rly sucky that they never have to face any consequences even tho they're ew

 

[Alienfish]

idk i just felt like ranting a bit. does anyone have any nice experience as being lgbtq+ that they could share so i could get a lil faith in humanity back or something idk

tbh i kinda agree with taesaek here, just ignore them. time will slap their ass.

i get your thing about people being phobic about everything asf just cause it's a common casual attitude and they claim it doesn't have a meaning until it's serious which kinda annoys me cause my mom is like that.. as soon as someone/something is gay/trans/ace whatever in the hole she makes rude comments -_- yet she has friends in the community lol :/

good experiences.. probably this one good friend i have irl who isn't judgmental ..cause i told them i am pretty much pansexual cause i never cared much about genders in that matter or limiting myself and they kinda got it without asking rude stuff.

 

[tae]

yah, well i wont actually hit them w a train and i just say that bc im frustrated lmao. but honestly cis ppl suck
it's just rly sucky that they never have to face any consequences even tho they're ew

loads of cis people face millions of consequences throughout their lives, just like any non-binary human being would..frustrated or not, wishing death upon anyone is pretty messed up, regardless if you find it to be "a joke" or something you say out of frustration. wishing death upon someone bares a lot of consequences too and that has nothing to do with how you identify.

it drives me crazy when people on the lgbtqa+ community throw blatant hate towards anyone of cis identity. yeah lots of people aren't going to accept us for who we are and that's absolutely horrible, but defining every cis person as "ew" and terrible is like saying all Muslims are terrorists. it's rude, it's inaccurate and quite frankly, it's just incredibly childish.



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be angry all you want, you can do that. but getting angry at hate, and returning it with even more hate is like trying to put out a fire with gasoline. you're not going anywhere, and you're making it worse for yourself.

 

[Alienfish]

it drives me crazy when people on the lgbtqa+ community throw blatant hate towards anyone of cis identity. yeah lots of people aren't going to accept us for who we are and that's absolutely horrible, but defining every cis person as "ew" and terrible is like saying all Muslims are terrorists. it's rude, it's inaccurate and quite frankly, it's just incredibly childish.

well if people could stop being so casual and naive/non-informed it would make shizz easier to be honest. also well, while at times it's just angry a lot of people have someone they don't really want in their life regardless of the issues.

 

[visibleghost]

loads of cis people face millions of consequences throughout their lives, just like any non-binary human being would..frustrated or not, wishing death upon anyone is pretty messed up, regardless if you find it to be "a joke" or something you say out of frustration. wishing death upon someone bares a lot of consequences too and that has nothing to do with how you identify.

it drives me crazy when people on the lgbtqa+ community throw blatant hate towards anyone of cis identity. yeah lots of people aren't going to accept us for who we are and that's absolutely horrible, but defining every cis person as "ew" and terrible is like saying all Muslims are terrorists. it's rude, it's inaccurate and quite frankly, it's just incredibly childish.



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be angry all you want, you can do that. but getting angry at hate, and returning it with even more hate is like trying to put out a fire with gasoline. you're not going anywhere, and you're making it worse for yourself.

ok first of all i wrote "honestly it would be great if all the ignorant cis ppl at my school would accidentally get hit by a train because then i wouldn't have to be around them anymore".
Note the "ignorant cis ppl at my school" part. idc about cis people in general. i was really frustrated and fed up and tired of my school and how ignorant everyone is, which is why i wrote that. if you think i'm messed up for thinking that then fine whatever.
and yah ik that cis ppl can have sucky lives too smh. they dont have it bad because theyre cis tho


hope i'm not igniting a flamewar but..,

"defining every cis person as "ew" and terrible is like saying all Muslims are terrorists."
what?????? no. there is a very big difference between a trans person saying that cis people are "ew" and someone who isn't muslim saying that all muslims are terrorists.

basically, me saying that cis people are "ew" won't hurt anyone. it doesn't contribitute to the "oppression of cis people", since it doesn't exist. cis people have power and privelege for being cis.
when i wrote "cis people" i didnt mean every individual cis person on earth. i more kind of meant The Cis Society and cis ppl in general lmao if that sounds bad then idk i don't mean that i hate every cis person for being cis lmao.

"be angry all you want, you can do that. but getting angry at hate, and returning it with even more hate is like trying to put out a fire with gasoline. you're not going anywhere, and you're making it worse for yourself."
ik that my anger wont change anything and that it only hurts myself. if i could just shrug off transphobia i would do it lmao but i kind of cannot? I ignore it most of the time but sometimes i just doesn't really work out lmao. also if cis ppl get offended from me calling them "ew" then honestly they can go away because i dont have time for that

 

[Gregriii]

yah, well i wont actually hit them w a train and i just say that bc im frustrated lmao. but honestly cis ppl suck
it's just rly sucky that they never have to face any consequences even tho they're ew

so u can't be judged by trans/homophobes but u can actually say that cis suck???

Wow

 

[visibleghost]

so u can't be judged by trans/homophobes but u can actually say that cis suck???

Wow

ya h because cisphobia isnt real

 

[tae]

well if people could stop being so casual and naive/non-informed it would make shizz easier to be honest. also well, while at times it's just angry a lot of people have someone they don't really want in their life regardless of the issues.

dealing with ignorance is always going to be an uphill battle, and sadly we can only do so much to inform the bigoted. i have a long list of people whom i wish i never met, a loong list of people who've treated me poorly for being trans but i don't hate cis people, i don't even hate the ignorant cis people, i pity them, honestly. it's not my fault they're close minded or spiteful. i'll take my happy little trans ass and parade it around town without a flying **** of what they seem to think.

i just don't think wishing anyone death, regardless of situations to be an appropriate method of venting. :/

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ya h because cisphobia isnt real

it's still ignorant. and childish.

 

[Gregriii]

ya h because cisphobia isnt real

that's VERY hypocrite imo

as long as trans/homos hate cis it will exist

it's like saying that man can't be harassed or abused by woman cause woman are often more harassed by men

 

[tae]

you can't get offended at people saying you're gross or insulting you, and then turn around and complain about them and insult and group them all together as well. that's completely pointless, immature and quite hilarious that you're worked up over people calling you gay or not accepting you when you don't accept them either. FOR THE SAME REASON.

" WAhHHHHhh they don't accept me bc i' trans i hope they get hit by trains, but you know what, **** cis people they all suck."

but if a cis person were to be like, " wow they don't like me because im cis, i hope they get hit by a fking train" it would be transphobia right? because they don't accept you?

do you see how dumb this sounds? do you?

 

[Alienfish]

Of course they have privilege because society gives them that and whatever bs they think they are entitled to and think they can act out too.. And regarding the different areas between muslims/trans people and people not cis it's ofc a difference and it was a p bad example to compare with regarding a lot of peoples issues... it doesn't really get any relevant sayings to the matter other than it's as alright and should be taken as casual(which it shouldn't since it's way more serious)..

also it's understandable you need to rant but then again you shouldn't really brush it off like that towards the end. you have the right to be angry but tbh those people at your school are as ignorant as a lot of people outside .. feels a bit ambivalent if you're all angry then be just like 'whatever'.. and of course certain people can't shrug it off but tbh seems you take that a bit lightly like "go away i dont have time"...?

 

[Knopekin]

Yeah, I think the whole 'minorities can't be oppressed' to justify hating on vast swathes of people is childish at best and offensive at worst.

I have a ton of good life experiences though! I mentioned my ex-girlfriend in conversation to someone at work and they told me about how her kids are readjusting to her new female partner and it was a nice bonding moment.

 

[Alienfish]

@tae of course they will unless they actually take a step towards change and start acting serious. i can pity them in a way but it's kinda annoying when (mostly) cis make rude comments and have their specific gender ideals and think you're not a real (gender/sex) if you're not like that. sure there are people that might look stereotype to one way or the other but assuming from that is just rude tbh.

can't say i really pity them, but i learn when to take my arguments cause some you can, some you cannot.

 

[visibleghost]

that's VERY hypocrite imo

as long as trans/homos hate cis it will exist

it's like saying that man can't be harassed or abused by woman cause woman are often more harassed by men

cisphobia doesnt exist
men can be harassed and abused. but they don't get oppressed by society.

you can't get offended at people saying you're gross or insulting you, and then turn around and complain about them and insult and group them all together as well. that's completely pointless, immature and quite hilarious that you're worked up over people calling you gay or not accepting you when you don't accept them either. FOR THE SAME REASON.

" WAhHHHHhh they don't accept me bc i' trans i hope they get hit by trains, but you know what, **** cis people they all suck."

ik it's pointless lmao
but i'm not doing the same thing tho, that's the thing

my hate isn't supported by society
it is not structural or whatever it's called. sure it's bad of me to say that cis ppl suck since it's rude to tell someone that they suck. but it's not "cisphobic" or the same thing??

i say that cis people suck because i'm tired of being treated like crap for being trans by cis people. i kinda have a reason, ad it's actually ok for me to be angry at people who are oppressing me. it's not productive and it doesn't change anything, but i am totally allowed to lmao.

 

[Alienfish]

ya h because cisphobia isnt real

uh yes it is. some people can be very angsty and phobic because they think they are so hardcore.

 

[visibleghost]

Of course they have privilege because society gives them that and whatever bs they think they are entitled to and think they can act out too.. And regarding the different areas between muslims/trans people and people not cis it's ofc a difference and it was a p bad example to compare with regarding a lot of peoples issues... it doesn't really get any relevant sayings to the matter other than it's as alright and should be taken as casual(which it shouldn't since it's way more serious)..

also it's understandable you need to rant but then again you shouldn't really brush it off like that towards the end. you have the right to be angry but tbh those people at your school are as ignorant as a lot of people outside .. feels a bit ambivalent if you're all angry then be just like 'whatever'.. and of course certain people can't shrug it off but tbh seems you take that a bit lightly like "go away i dont have time"...?

sorry if it seems like i have a bad attitude and brush it off. idk what to really change bc i'm kind of bad at that stuff but i get what u mean i think

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uh yes it is. some people can be very angsty and phobic because they think they are so hardcore.

pls give me examples of cisphobia being real

 

[Alienfish]

also it's another thing of getting harassed and being abused... of course cis people can, some communities can be very nasty towards cis people because they think they are being ****ty. Like, well a lot of cases are but doesn't mean they are all angels and ice-cream

 

[Gregriii]

cisphobia doesnt exist
men can be harassed and abused. but they don't get oppressed by society.


ik it's pointless lmao
but i'm not doing the same thing tho, that's the thing

my hate isn't supported by society
it is not structural or whatever it's called. sure it's bad of me to say that cis ppl suck since it's rude to tell someone that they suck. but it's not "cisphobic" or the same thing??

i say that cis people suck because i'm tired of being treated like crap for being trans by cis people. i kinda have a reason, ad it's actually ok for me to be angry at people who are oppressing me. it's not productive and it doesn't change anything, but i am totally allowed to lmao.

then u deserve to be hated for being trans/homo if u hate them for the same reason LOL