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But people who use the wrong gender pronouns on purpose tho </3
ergh

And pretty much my only friend at the time (who, fyi, stole from me/treated me like absolute crap/lied about me..etc) told everyone without my permission (I was pretty much the only person in my year/the years above and below us to be out) and essentially made sure everyone thought I was an absolute freak (especially the guy who I was absolutely in love with at the time, who asked her out at least 5 times, and one of those times, she told me to say no to him for her cc :) /gossiped about me behind my back.

Now all the girls wonder why I get changed in the toilets not around them? Because at the time, they all assumed I was attracted to each and every one of them (r u ok, I'm pansexual, by the way) and are literally the most spiteful and horrible groups of people I've ever come across.

I actually hate my own gender sometimes, because of them. I'm not even joking.

But my parents didn't care at all. I don't think they believe me, though.

yeah people who do that on purpose suck
and oh my god thats gross!! i hate people like that. i hate it when girls think you must have a crush on them if youre not straight like?? uhh no? please calm down omg



Eurgh anyone who can talk to me privately about some issues im facing would be sooo appreciative, its pretty serious and i dont really trust many people but still >.<
i wouldnt mind

the arizona one was passed though and my friend sent me a picture of this store that had a sign that said "no fags allowed" in the window

someone get me out of this awful state please

ew ew ew!! im so sorry. thats so gross oh my god?? really hoping they take that down because thats disgusting?? cant believe its 2014 and we just passed a gross bill.
come up to washington ok
 
ew ew ew!! im so sorry. thats so gross oh my god?? really hoping they take that down because thats disgusting?? cant believe its 2014 and we just passed a gross bill.
come up to washington ok
ughh i know!!

one of the AZ congress representatives (who is against SB1062) saw my friend's post on tumblr and followed him oh gosh things just got serious

we're gonna try to get this thing vetoed
 
ughh i know!!

one of the AZ congress representatives (who is against SB1062) saw my friend's post on tumblr and followed him oh gosh things just got serious

we're gonna try to get this thing vetoed

i hope it does go down because its amazing that it was even passed? like are you kidding me? its just..so useless. you're so scared that you're gonna serve food to a gay person? smh like theres no point to this law

i saw a poster on tumblr that was like " we have the right to refuse service to arizona legislators" and i laughed
 
Eurgh anyone who can talk to me privately about some issues im facing would be sooo appreciative, its pretty serious and i dont really trust many people but still >.<

You can talk to me if you want, it's all cool :)
 

yeah i agree like. people are rude to otherkin. personally i support them. do whatever you want! but i dont think they face oppression. people are mean to them, but they dont get killed for being otherkin. people wont take them seriously, but thats not the same as transphobia.

the new pronouns dont really feel right to me? (meaning i wouldnt use them and i prefer the other ones) but hey i see why people like them. to me my gender isnt really an object. i guess if you feel like a squid (i saw squid pronouns) then cool ill use them for you. i mean theyre cool pronouns but i probably couldnt use most of them.

and yes - cis people cant have an opinion on this. i saw some cis people laughing at the new pronouns (and other nb pronouns in general) and it made me upset? cis people have no right to say anything about this. its a nonbinary issue. idk if binary trans prople can talk about it though..? i mean theyre trans so pronouns are a big deal but this is mostly a nb thing

also does anyone know any good binders that are cheap or good?? i dont wanna buy an uncomfortable one.
 
Eurgh anyone who can talk to me privately about some issues im facing would be sooo appreciative, its pretty serious and i dont really trust many people but still >.<

I'll pm you ok <3

It has pretty much become my online job, anyway, hehe :3
 
  • yeah i agree like. people are rude to otherkin. personally i support them. do whatever you want! but i dont think they face oppression. people are mean to them, but they dont get killed for being otherkin. people wont take them seriously, but thats not the same as transphobia.

    the new pronouns dont really feel right to me? (meaning i wouldnt use them and i prefer the other ones) but hey i see why people like them. to me my gender isnt really an object. i guess if you feel like a squid (i saw squid pronouns) then cool ill use them for you. i mean theyre cool pronouns but i probably couldnt use most of them.

    and yes - cis people cant have an opinion on this. i saw some cis people laughing at the new pronouns (and other nb pronouns in general) and it made me upset? cis people have no right to say anything about this. its a nonbinary issue. idk if binary trans prople can talk about it though..? i mean theyre trans so pronouns are a big deal but this is mostly a nb thing

    also does anyone know any good binders that are cheap or good?? i dont wanna buy an uncomfortable one.

    i agree with u wholeheartedly on the otherkin pronoun thing omg ;;

    also have u seen these binders theyre super cheap and one of my friends got themselves one and they like it thus far

 


  • i agree with u wholeheartedly on the otherkin pronoun thing omg ;;

    also have u seen these binders theyre super cheap and one of my friends got themselves one and they like it thus far


OOH!! thank you!!! sucks theyre sold out but ill keep my eye on them
 
idk if binary trans prople can talk about it though..? i mean theyre trans so pronouns are a big deal but this is mostly a nb thing

definitely for nonbinary people only

being trans doesn't necessarily mean you will get a say in everything related to trans people, because there's different issues or topics directed at specific parts of the community that not everyone in it has to face, neutral pronouns being an example of this
 
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hi I'm graysexual/asexual/heteroromantic??? - I mean, I'm still kind of coming to terms with this and I'm still confused with a lot of aspects of my sexuality, and I don't entirely feel comfortable labeling myself until I completely understand it, but I feel like it'd make so much shift into clarity. The vast majority of my relationships have been dictated by my crippling fear of intimacy. All of it could be me misconstruing my anxiety (I have generalized anxiety disorder, which has been the source of 80% of the grief in my life). I'm just really confused and I don't know if there's any information out there that can help me and there's so much TMI B.S involved and ugh. I'm worried about coming across as an appropriative, idiotic straight girl who's confused her fear of intimacy with LGBTQIA issues.

As it turns out, most of my closest friends are asexual, which has been a happy coincidence since they've helped me sort out some things and helped me realize some parallels, but I'm still hideously confused.
 
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yeah i agree like. people are rude to otherkin. personally i support them. do whatever you want! but i dont think they face oppression. people are mean to them, but they dont get killed for being otherkin. people wont take them seriously, but thats not the same as transphobia.

the new pronouns dont really feel right to me? (meaning i wouldnt use them and i prefer the other ones) but hey i see why people like them. to me my gender isnt really an object. i guess if you feel like a squid (i saw squid pronouns) then cool ill use them for you. i mean theyre cool pronouns but i probably couldnt use most of them.

and yes - cis people cant have an opinion on this. i saw some cis people laughing at the new pronouns (and other nb pronouns in general) and it made me upset? cis people have no right to say anything about this. its a nonbinary issue. idk if binary trans prople can talk about it though..? i mean theyre trans so pronouns are a big deal but this is mostly a nb thing

also does anyone know any good binders that are cheap or good?? i dont wanna buy an uncomfortable one.

People are definitely rude to otherkin. They do face some sort of oppression, though it's not much compared to LGBTQIA oppression. Otherkin pretty much face oppression in that they can't talk about what they identify as, even in LGBTQIA groups, or else they find themselves laughed at. I'm not otherkin, but I have noticed this.

I've noticed that the whole gender pronoun thing is a very English thing. Most Germanic languages have a gender neutral pronoun. The Persian language uses the same pronoun for all genders.

Cis people can have an opinion on pronouns. While I would say the opinion of cis people shouldn't be the predominant opinion when it comes to non-binary pronouns, it's still an opinion nonetheless. Whatever pronouns are chosen affect us too. It would kind be like saying that since I don't own a gun, I can't have an opinion on gun legislation. Whatever legislation passes affects me, so I definitely have an opinion on it.

I do have a problem though. Can everybody using non-binary pronouns just agree on a set to use so it can be adopted for the English language? I mean, just looking at the section on Wikipedia for pronouns, just going under the nominative subject, they use the sentence "He laughed" for the example here, where "He" is replaced with E, Ey, Hu, Per, Thon, Jee, Ve, Xe, Ze, or Zhe. There's a total of 12 separate sets of pronouns there. I don't understand why the community can't agree on one set.

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hi I'm graysexual/asexual/heteroromantic??? - I mean, I'm still kind of coming to terms with this and I'm still confused with a lot of aspects of my sexuality, and I don't entirely feel comfortable labeling myself until I completely understand it, but I feel like it'd make so much shift into clarity. The vast majority of my relationships have been dictated by my crippling fear of intimacy. All of it could be me misconstruing my anxiety (I have generalized anxiety disorder, which has been the source of 80% of the grief in my life). I'm just really confused and I don't know if there's any information out there that can help me and there's so much TMI B.S involved and ugh. I'm worried about coming across as an appropriative, idiotic straight girl who's confused her fear of intimacy with LGBTQIA issues.

As it turns out, most of my closest friends are asexual, which has been a happy coincidence since they've helped me sort out some things and helped me realize some parallels, but I'm still hideously confused.

In my opinion, I'd suggest working on your anxiety issues before you figure out your sexuality. I mean, from the looks of it, anxiety has affected your past relationships, and from what it looks like to me, it's probbly not been for the better. I'd definitely recommend working on anxiety and then trying to figure out your sexuality.
 
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