My Thoughts on Mumble

I went on there a couple of times recently and I had a blast talking to Marii and Sonicdude. If you're contemplating shutting it down, I would suggest you do so. There's hardly anyone on there to begin with and most of the people that are on more than likely are on Skype as well.
 
I'm actually scared of joining Mumble, because I'm kind of afraid I'll just pretty much be ignored. Hearing all these bad things about it makes me want to pretty much let it go. I'm with the others here, do whatever you feel is right, Jason.
 
This happened to me a couple times. A few people didn't like me or my posts or whatever and decided to talk about me in the IRC when I wasn't in it, one of them being a member who I had never even spoken to personally. They went on to cite examples by posting links of my posts, even going so far as to insult my gender identity because of a post I made in the LGBTQA Support Thread. They really had nothing better to do, I guess.

The same pretty much happened to me as well. Hell, most of the worst stuff was posted on that God-awful Tumblr page.

I know your feel.
 
i literally dont know what mafia even is aside from roleplaying i think? i try to stay away from it in general because it seems too intense for me. perhaps its creating a rift? but i dont think it hurts if people are just having fun. (oh god this is so OT im sorry)

It definitely hurts some people's feelings--between being judged how they acted in a game, things carried over, things not even related to said game being brought in and then being attacked even outside the game and game chats... It's really obnoxious and not only does it mean some people who may want to have fun with it don't get a break, people who don't care for it get forced to see it too.

And a lot of people say "well, that's just part of the game"--there's still a way to play a game like that without being a complete jerk. I feel some people let themselves get way too rude in that game.
 
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It definitely hurts some people's feelings--between being judged how they acted in a game, things carried over, things not even related to said game being brought in and then being attacked even outside the game and game chats... It's really obnoxious and not only does it mean some people who may want to have fun with it don't get a break, people who don't care for it get forced to see it too.

And a lot of people say "well, that's just part of the game"--there's still a way to play a game like that without being a complete jerk. I feel some people let themselves get way too rude in that game.

And how would you propose you fix this problem then? I'm trying not to be rude here, but this thread is everybody saying "well THIS is something wrong with the community and THAT is another thing wrong with the community" but I really don't see any solutions being offered.
 
To be honest you guys are blowing the mumble way out of proportion. Sure there are some sour people who may ruin it from time to time, but I'd say more often then not everyone is kind and it's a pleasurable experience.
 
I thought this discussion had evolved more past just the Mumble and this also was about the IRC, which does exhibit the main negative behaviors from the Mumble.
 
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The IRC is more problematic than the Mumble at this point, but I'd say the discussion is now on the overall community.

I don't really like the Mafia games and I feel like it provokes hostility between members.
 
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It definitely hurts some people's feelings--between being judged how they acted in a game, things carried over, things not even related to said game being brought in and then being attacked even outside the game and game chats... It's really obnoxious and not only does it mean some people who may want to have fun with it don't get a break, people who don't care for it get forced to see it too.

And a lot of people say "well, that's just part of the game"--there's still a way to play a game like that without being a complete jerk. I feel some people let themselves get way too rude in that game.

:c oh, i had no idea it was that bad. well, i myself wouldnt have a clue on how to fix it since i dont even participate in mafia in the first place. im not sure if thats where the main problem lies or what, but im sure people with more experience might have more input. idk, stricter rules about being "nice"? if thats a thing? im just taking shots in the dark here, ahah
 
The IRC is more problematic than the Mumble at this point, but I'd say the discussion is now on the overall community.

I don't really like the Mafia games and I feel like it provokes hostility between members.

I think the discussion was always on the community, not on the Mumble itself. While the majority of the community isn't necessarily under the gun, its the folks who frequent the IRC and participate in the problem cliques that are really going to be under the gun.

The mafia games are only a problem if you really let it get out of hand (oath2order v Superpenguin) or let certain users continue baiting/attacking users outside the game for no reason. Perhaps to alleviate the amount of mafia discussion in the main IRC channel, we can move it over to the #BellTreeMafia channel where the IRC games are held since Jubs hasn't put the bot up in a while.
 
Its not only that, but maybe we can have a TBTMafia channel where mafia can be discussed heavily, where its out of sight and mind for those who do not play it and lets promote the feelings for peoples playstyle not cross over to who they are as a person, and don't say nobody does that because I'll be the example. (I was pretty good friends with Karla until I screwed up in mafia.)

More so to the point, this isn't what it use to be and change is good for a community but not this kind of change. I had a nice little chat with Jason this afternoon but how things went downhill and how things are different.
 
:c oh, i had no idea it was that bad. well, i myself wouldnt have a clue on how to fix it since i dont even participate in mafia in the first place. im not sure if thats where the main problem lies or what, but im sure people with more experience might have more input. idk, stricter rules about being "nice"? if thats a thing? im just taking shots in the dark here, ahah

I think the rules are fine, it's more about getting the staff to crack down a little harder on the offenders. After all, just reading the rules lands you with this:

Respecting Others
  • Respect other Bell Tree members in your posts, private messages, visitor messages, Wi-Fi ratings, and other conversations.
  • If you disagree with someone, please do so in a dignified manner and refrain from using personal attacks.
  • Keep your criticism constructive and avoid posting anything that belittles another user.
  • If another user is disrespectful or makes a personal attack, do not attack them back. This will create a lengthy series of attacks known as a flame war.
  • Do not use someone else's thread for your own purchases/interest. If you want to buy something, make your own thread.
 
Its not only that, but maybe we can have a TBTMafia channel where mafia can be discussed heavily, where its out of sight and mind for those who do not play it and lets promote the feelings for peoples playstyle not cross over to who they are as a person, and don't say nobody does that because I'll be the example. (I was pretty good friends with Karla until I screwed up in mafia.)

More so to the point, this isn't what it use to be and change is good for a community but not this kind of change. I had a nice little chat with Jason this afternoon but how things went downhill and how things are different.

We already have #belltreemafia ;) We might as well use that instead of needing to create another.
 
Yeah, I know a large amount of IRC regulars are mafia players as well, but thats not the point. The point is, that most the time mafia chat takes over the whole channel, and excludes any new members who join the chat to chat about other things, and the people in the IRC who have no interest in playing/or listening about mafia.
 
Yeah, I know a large amount of IRC regulars are mafia players as well, but thats not the point. The point is, that most the time mafia chat takes over the whole channel, and excludes any new members who join the chat to chat about other things, and the people in the IRC who have no interest in playing/or listening about mafia.

It really is annoying.. I know I complain about it a lot and I'm damn sure I can do a better job at it, but I'm just saying what everyone is thinking.
 
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