Mafia Overwatch Mafia - End Game, Town wins!

Can I get some questions to answer if anyone has some, I feel pretty useless so far tbh and I'd like to have something new to comment on.

Also I'm not completely against Primal or Abe lynch, but I just need a little more convincing than organization. Thats a weak reason

Right now N e s s is my only townlean.

Ness is your only town lean?
what do you think about Tom being very quiet?
Everyone starts to feel some indication of who is mafia this early, even if it turns out to be wrong.... you don't have any thoughts about any other people? Nor do you see why Abe looks bad right now, besides the organization thing?
 
I don't wanna look like I'm dodging these reads because class just started and I'll be out again in like an hour or two. I'll have those reads up soon
In short:
Dolby
Toads (Not quite a town lean but I'll explain)
Tom
Karen

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Dolby and karen should be the same color
 
Can someone explain what the colors mean?

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Is it green I'd town and orange mafia?
 
Can someone explain what the colors mean?

Dark red means a strong scum read, dark green means a strong town lean. Lighter colors indicate less strong reads In either direction. Gray means neutral and yellow means a slight suspicion
 
Will we get a day end timer?

Tom is still nowhere to be found. I've seen him around the forum today but no posts here recently idk. I'm ok with a Tom lynch for now but we'll see. Imma go to sleep now, will try to wake up earlier tomorrow and see what's up.

@Toads, what about you, who do you find most suspicious?

@Primal,
green-town
orange to red- mafia
grey- null

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oops ninja'd
 
Green = Town lean (darker green meaning a lock usually)
Orange = scum lean
Red = def think they are mafia
grey = is a null, not enough info, or torn between both sides
 
I was double ninja'd

Well I too have been wary of Tom and Jacob's silence, especially looking back at old games. I also do not like Jacob saying his only townread is Ness, so I'm looking forward to his post later about the others. Tom's posts so far have been about general things that at face value seem relevant, but are not related to town at all.
Abe's posts just doesn't seem like him. For someone who usually is so cocky about everything he does and so level-headed, he just seems completely different
Primalflexer's posts just seem forced and imo feel like what a newer person would say if they were scum.

Dolby, Trundle, Seroja, Ness, Whiteflamingo, Karen, Amanda are all town leans for the moment. But thats a big list, so I will still be watching out for them.

whoever is left, is null due to not enough info... Glow, Heyden, getlucky

as far as voting, I have no idea about the four of them and want to hear other people's ideas of what to do before making any decisions. I don't have classes and should be checking in up until end of day.
 
Tom is very quite, wonder why?


Town leaning for Ness, Trundle and Jacob.

Rethinking a view things for everyone else.
 
Tom is very quite, wonder why?


Town leaning for Ness, Trundle and Jacob.

Rethinking a view things for everyone else.

Can you please explain to me why you think me and Jacob are town? Jacob is actually one of my scum reads right now, and you thought I was mafia a while back.
 
Not sure who I'm going vote for the lynch. =/

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Can you please explain to me why you think me and Jacob are town? Jacob is actually one of my scum reads right now, and you thought I was mafia a while back.

Well you seem to be more offensive than defensive right now and that seems to be something a townie would do.

Jacob has been jumping back and forth, he's a little quite but I feel as though that's his intention and he's trying to make out he's mafia due to the lack of activity, I may be wrong though.

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Its early game, so I don't have much to go off.
 
Toad I don't really understand what you mean when you say forced. Can you explain that please? And why do you think white is more of a town read?
 
Toad I don't really understand what you mean when you say forced. Can you explain that please? And why do you think white is more of a town read?

Your post going along with glow's idea that one of Endless or Ness is definitely mafia was just really weird. The fact that you agreed and was eager to pick one of the two is alarming, and seems like something a person new to mafia would do.
Are you really glow's boyfriend?

White has been doing some very Town-slip type things. Meaning they do something that really gives away their affiliation. Its nothing bad, but something mostly done by new players. Looking at white's posts in context with them being new just feels genuine. I don't necessarily get that with your posts. The whole vigilante, third party, mix up was very telling... if they were mafia, I think they would have known from their chat together and role pm what the term was.
 
This will probably be my last post for D1 as the job fair and work will bring me to end of day. I placed my vote on Tom since he's my top scumread and the fact that he hasn't responded despite apparently reading the thread.

As for other thoughts, not sure what to think of Ness right now. He made an attempt to pressure players, but has been a tad defensive in his responses and has been mainly posting about past games. For now, he's neutral for me.
 
Ok here are some of the reads I have Day 1
For those who I nulled, I don't have a lot of substance for explanation, but I can provide my reaction to their posts up until now.


Dolby

My initial understanding of Dolby's playstyle: usually quiet and effective. Dolby is smart and usually comes in as a savior to scum snipe when we need him.

Right off the bat before the game started, Dolby added:
In, but understand that I will not be active at all

I thought this was fair enough, it's never been a huge problem before.
However unaccordingly to this post, Dolby has spent a considerable amount of time playing this game, being like the 7th top poster only on day 1, and suggesting that he's spent inconvenient time IRL playing:

Anyway, this is probably my last post today, got homework to do
Dude, you have literally 24 more hours. I'm typing this as I'm doing a chem lab.
If anybody would like to make a different RQS, that's fine, as I'm kinda rushing this at the bus stop
To me this strikes me 2 ways:
- He's trying hard, wants town to win, supplying his thoughts and help, and is being beneficial to town
- He could also be paying more time than normal so that he doesn't come off as "quiet" or "inactive," a point that Dolby is throwing around my way to make me look suspicious. This indicates that maybe he's taking a scum hunt method that worked against him before, purposefully turning his playstyle around and trying it on others for a mislynch.
Some of his posts seem very filler or just a tad forced, in order to get as many posts in as he can. Does it not bother anyone else that instead of compiling big posts this game, Dolby has been keeping them shorter? Now I know thats not a real reason to find someone sus, but as you mentioned not-too-many-posts ago, it's a change in playstyle, which throws me off just a little:

You're thinking of Tom, trundle has a tongue of aluminum
Weren't you the kingmaker in mini mafia 4?
Toads is null to me, Id elaborate, but I'm barely lucid
Also, Toads and Trundle are still townleand to me

For these reasons, Dolby initially crosses me as Null.


Tom


Tom only has about 5 or 6 actual posts. Usually Tom is one of the hardest players to read, as his activity rates generally show nothing about his alignment.
But, two of his posts stuck out to me:

Junkrat is a kind of jokester given his taunts, but I have to admit I don't feel terribly confident about a third party.
@glow: I went back to re-read my PM because of that lmao. But honestly I said I don't feel confident on a third party based off numbers.

"based off numbers" as an explanation for his inconfidence in a third party shows me that he's very analytical. A third party is totally possible in a 15 person game, and I've seen games with less players and still a third party. I came to a slight conclusion that Tom is likely on the Mafia team, he knows how many mafia members there are and thinks that having a third party out there as well would throw off the balance in the game. He didn't give much explanation otherwise.


Toads

Toad is "green" based only on the fact that early in the game I got an internal feeling telling me he was town. He's been posting a lot similarly to the Dethy game we just played, so everything just feels familiar. Toad usually shows himself truly after a few deaths however.

Once we see how his reads unfold with death alignments, Toads is extremely easy to read. I don't want to lynch him based off of this fact, and also because his activity is helping a lot while others aren't posting as much.


Karen

Never once have I played with Karen (that I recall), but her posts seem really genuine like shes not trying to hold anything back. Mixing this with the fact that shes experienced, I haven't developed a good idea about her yet this game.

(Sorry these seem a little rushed at the end, I tried to get the most important information at the top so I can post it before my bus shows up at 2:30.)
 
I want to hear tom's response on your numbers comment. If not I will most likely vote for him
 
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