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[Arstotzkan]

k back

 

[EpicGamer12]

Trundle is doing a couple of moves that strongly reminds me of his old-school scum behavior. In true Trundle fashion, I will not mention exactly what I am referring to at this point in time since it will cause them to act differently. Maybe I am already saying too much. In any case, I won't vote for them today but will keep them on my radar.

I'm not sure when you started playing mafia, but are you referring to My Little Pony mafia? Because if so, I can see where you're coming from and also lol
Going to make my vote and post in a few minutes, just hold on.

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SarasaKat might be scum! ( ? ▽ ` )ﾉ​

My references are going to be linked in a spoiler below because I hate that quotes can't exist in quotes on vB.

Disclaimer: This is obviously a fairly weak read as it is Day 1, I have other reads I'm working on.

Basic Thoughts:
- SarasaKat's reasoning this game so far for most of her suspicions have come up merely from small opposition (opinion or thoughts). In one case, Sarasa suggested adding me to a policy lynch list for the sole reason of having a different play style last game than I normally do[1]. In reality, Sarasa is accusing people of making posts that aren't contributing to town, but does the same herself very often[2][3]. More cases can be brought up if needed, such as Minties.
- Sarasa seems to be having a hard time holding a position this game. Every time someone brings up a point, Sarasa seems to have the need to comment it. I am reading this behaviour as scum, but regardless, it's very hard for town to sort out good and bad content when the game is being flooded from useless posts. They also seem to forget how to quote 50% of the time which just creates even more confusion - I can't tell who she is talking to and when. I feel like a lot of my suspicion on her is caused because of such poorly organized posts.[4][5]

Reasons Sarasa might NOT be mafia:
- Although disorganized, most posts seem quite sincere, not really holding back. I honestly don't remember much about Sarasa as I never paid attention to Sarasa in previous mafia games.
- Sarasa is pretty bad at mafia so it might be that coming through.

Spoiler: references

[1] http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...afia-Day-One&p=6267906&viewfull=1#post6267906
[2] http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...afia-Day-One&p=6267460&viewfull=1#post6267460
[3] http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...afia-Day-One&p=6271721&viewfull=1#post6271721
[4] http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...afia-Day-One&p=6269797&viewfull=1#post6269797
[5] http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...afia-Day-One&p=6270188&viewfull=1#post6270188

Anyway, in short, please just organize your posts better and stop posting useless one liners. I think you might be doing it on purpose to throw town off. I also think you might just suck.

 

[Minties]

I'm awake now, reading through the thread.

 

[Sataric]

FYI i just placed my vote on Doughssant because of what i stated before, them not being much help and for their weird PM exchange with Zoolka makes them look sus in my eyes. im still willing listen and open to other point of views and opinions.

Your reads on Doughssant may align with my own, but your timing voting for them is highly suspicious. Just as your name was brought into the cross-fire, you instantly decided to throw down your vote onto Doughtssant directly after I had mentioned I would be considering voting for them. For that reason, along the previously mentioned suspicions I had on you already, I will vote for you instead. My apologies if I am wrong about your scummyness.

 

[Arstotzkan]

~snip~

[1]: I think you misread my reason - I was saying you didn't bother to actually contribute until D4.
[2][3]: I'd hardly call that "very often". Two posts out of all of my posts doesn't seem very often at all. But I think there's a seriously huge misconception here. When people's posts obviously lack town motivation or show potential scum motivation, I drill them. That's what I press about. Not random post like that (plus its obvious I was already contributing). I'd also like to argue that last post was somewhat useful cause it shows I'm here and ready to reply to whatever's sent my way.
[4][5]: Yeeeah I need to work on my organization, but in my defense I'm on mobile like 90% of the time. You think that's a scumtell though? That seems like it's a pretty consistent thing in my play.

@Me being bad: Got any tips for me to improve my play then? I'm relatively frustrated at my inability to do much D1 to help, so I'd really appreciate any advice you've got!

 

[glow]

hi I'm alive (barely) and in class typing this, still going through the last couple pages

there's actually a lot to go off of for d1, more so than the other games I've played so this'll be fun. expect a post within the next 45 mins or so

 

[EpicGamer12]

[1]: I think you misread my reason - I was saying you didn't bother to actually contribute until D4.
[2][3]: I'd hardly call that "very often". Two posts out of all of my posts doesn't seem very often at all. But I think there's a seriously huge misconception here. When people's posts obviously lack town motivation or show potential scum motivation, I drill them. That's what I press about. Not random post like that (plus its obvious I was already contributing). I'd also like to argue that last post was somewhat useful cause it shows I'm here and ready to reply to whatever's sent my way.
[4][5]: Yeeeah I need to work on my organization, but in my defense I'm on mobile like 90% of the time. You think that's a scumtell though? That seems like it's a pretty consistent thing in my play.

@Me being bad: Got any tips for me to improve my play then? I'm relatively frustrated at my inability to do much D1 to help, so I'd really appreciate any advice you've got!

Literally all you need to do in mafia is this:
1) Read people's posts
2) Take note of blatantly obvious scum behaviours
3) Make longer posts less often. Quality > Quantity.

And yes, Day 1 sucks. That doesn't mean you should argue with everyone and create a bunch of useless chaos. This day is especially useful for later if people who are town actually put their focus in. That's why I am reading you as scum. I am thinking you are intentionally creating chaos. I am too tired and frustrated to properly get a read on you so I'm going to leave my vote on you but thanks for responding and asking.

 

[PandaDarling]

Your reads on Doughssant may align with my own, but your timing voting for them is highly suspicious. Just as your name was brought into the cross-fire, you instantly decided to throw down your vote onto Doughtssant directly after I had mentioned I would be considering voting for them. For that reason, along the previously mentioned suspicions I had on you already, I will vote for you instead. My apologies if I am wrong about your scummyness.

@Sataric you are wrong but no hard feelings you are entitled to your opinion of my actions, but please note that i did not see your post about him, as i was typing my own answer to the question as to whom i would be voting for and why. but its all good.

 

[Ayaya]

Ayaya, you've found me scummy 2/2 times now Damn you don't like me.

I mainly reply to things though, regardless of alignment. You can probably look back through all of my games and see that trend, if you'd like. It's how I scumhunt.

When's the first time even? IRC? The only other game I've played with you was Scummy and I think you died before I could post my thoughts </3

I find that people who say they play a certain way regardless of alignment is suspicious, most people I see (Ender on GoT, off the top of my head) who say that tend to be scum who try to justify their actions. I was reading through your posts and you have made a whopping 70 posts and yet they haven't swayed me to think you're town. You respond, you share your thoughts, you point out things, but unlike other active players, you're not really making your stance clear.

For example, Minties has at least made it clear who she thinks is suspicious, Sataric posted his thoughts on each player he think is worth sharing, and Ender pointed out things that I thought was good points and didn't even notice.

What you have in common with them is that you're all experienced and you make good, contributive posts as town. Your experience also made you all capable of appearing as town when you're actually playing as scum.

I'm not seeing the same quality and effort from you as they are in this game and that is pretty alarming to me, I've read your play as town and you're doing better than and more convincing than you are now.

With that, I'm voting for you, SarasaKat.

 

[Minties]

There's only ~10 minutes left in the day and LOTS of players not voting. I agree with a lot of what Trundle said about Sarasakat because I felt like they were trying to get a rise out of me and create chaos that is distracting us from anything useful. I don't know if that's just because they don't know how to read properly and need work or because they're scum trying to make a scene. I make a good distraction when I get mad, yeah? Their needless stir ups are just the same things repeated over and over. I still think Sarasakat is scum and will be voting for them.

The only person I've been PM'd by this game is Sataric and due to his responses, I'm more inclined to trust him.

 

[Ayaya]

*you're doing better at that game, meh.

 

[Arstotzkan]

Wait, holy **** it isn't 10 minutes left is there? I thought we had till 11.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Day ends in 48 hours at 8 pm PST on March Eighth.

Ok we still got like 2 hours thank god

 

[Minties]

Oh yeah, I'm not very good at the time conversions into PST. Miscounted it to 1pm my time.

 

[EpicGamer12]

Ehhhhhhhh

I made a post on Sarasa knowing it was a really meh post calling her out on poor play style. I would rather wait another day before throwing the hammer down as, if Sarasa is town, after a few deaths hit, I'm sure we will be able to deduce whether or not Sarasa really is scum. I mean, there aren't a huge amount of other options (pretty much just Panda or an AFK), so I suggest everyone just votes who they personally feel is scum and from that we should be able to hit something useful.

 

[Arstotzkan]

Minties, I'd really like a reply.

@Ayaya I believe I've been pretty clear on my posts? If you're confused with a stance I have on someone, please ask.

And I don't believe I've been generating chaos - I think I've been questioning a good number of people and holding them accountable for their posts rather than nothing. And if someone's going to use a meta argument against me, or an argument answered by meta, I feel like I should point that out?

@Trundle But if I have a thought about something, shouldn't I make that thought known? Unless I'd be rxn testing ofc, but I'd prefer to be honest with my emotions and potentially steer away misconceptions I have or lead town in a good direction rather than keeping that stuff to myself.

 

[Dolby]

Just for the record, voting ends at 7pm PST and the night post comes at 8pm PST

 

[Arstotzkan]

So one more hour, yes?

 

[Dolby]

So one more hour, yes?

About 50 more minutes by now

 

[N e s s]

...unfortunatly, i've been watching this from afar and i'd prefer a a Kat lynch right since they seem like they could be scum. I've discussed it with someone i'm in a PM group, and i've made my choice. If this makes me look bad, so be it.

Sorry Kat.

- - - Post Merge - - -

If we get a town flip, we still get plenty of information. If a scum flip, i'd like to say that theres probably a good chance of Trundle scum since he usually busses his team mate day 1.

 

[Ayaya]

@SarasaKat I did ask for stances before, and just noticed your reply to my general question on who should be lynched (I've been looking at your posts before I got on)

Would you elaborating then on why you think Minties and/or Jacob would be good as lynches? I'd rather you write/summarise your thoughts than directing me to your previous posts, if you have time to do so.