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[EpicGamer12]

@Trundle when and where did i say "never" ??? besides what are you arguing, you have you're vote as no lynch atm.

You seem very defensive about a mere statement explaining why risking a blue death is worth it. Your wording suggests that risking a blue is not worth it, but every lynch is risking a blue lynch. Your post didn't say "risking a blue today is not a good idea or lynching no one", but rather it was a broad statement. Maybe you could get your sexual frustration that is very obvious in this post out by taking some propositional logic classes so you know how to word your sentences better.

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Also, I already mentioned that I voted no lynch and that I am very likely going to change it in a previous post. I'm very likely going to vote SarasaKat, but if I do, I'll share why I am then.

 

[Jacob]

If he starts ****posting, why wouldn't we just lynch him then? It'd be an obvious scumread since it'd be a massive playstyle change from today, and your reasoning other than that seems based in policy.

We totally can wait to see if he starts changing play style later, I am not against it.
Yet another reason why I still have not voted lol

In a similar note, would lynching an inactive be more beneficial than no lynch? If an inactive is town, then they aren't helping in any way, and if they are scum, they could kill a townie tonight.
Kit or M3ow_ are the 2 most inactive no?
I've never had to lynch an inactive before so the whole idea of lynching one is pretty new to me so if anyone could share their opinions on this that would be great.

 

[Arstotzkan]

@Trundle If I could defend myself I'd like to, so if you're gonna vote me leave at least some time for me to get some say.

@Jacob Who else would you lynch then?

I feel like there's better lynches than inactives. Plenty to go off of today to make a more educated lynch than someone who reveals nothing about other players' alignments anyways.

 

[Jacob]

@Jacob Who else would you lynch then?

I feel like there's better lynches than inactives. Plenty to go off of today to make a more educated lynch than someone who reveals nothing about other players' alignments anyways.

I am not as skilled as most players here, I've only played about 4 or 5 games, so I don't have as well reads as you guys.
My vote for today is either going to:

No Lynch
Trojan (not likely to vote him)
M3ow_ / Kit

based off other's opinions on lynching inactives and people's last minute votes, that's how I will determine out of these 3.

 

[Damniel]

I just got home, but I'm extremely sore and exhausted, no clue why though.

After reading everything so far, i would like a Panda lynch por favor. She's not doing a single thing to help town in the numerous posts she has. Doesn't seem to have a firm opinion. I can see her wanting no lynch, because she would know the top lynch candidates are innocent. And she could just say "I didn't want them lynched". She's not helping much with her flawed logic and I think she'd be a good lynch. Nothing else to go off of since my other reads are just null.

Also, Dolby is lurking a lot and being very quiet. I think he's blue snipping and we should lynch him because silent Dolby is a dangerous one

 

[PandaDarling]

Eeey

Hey that's actually kinda cool since my birthday's in a few days too so CELEBRATION IS THIS WEEK AMIRIGHT

Btw apparently my dad says he'll be having a part for me on March 10th and I will have a party with friends on March 13th, so I may not be as active those days.

aw... bless, Happy Birthday Sarasakat i hope you have a great week.

You seem very defensive about a mere statement explaining why risking a blue death is worth it. Your wording suggests that risking a blue is not worth it, but every lynch is risking a blue lynch. Your post didn't say "risking a blue today is not a good idea or lynching no one", but rather it was a broad statement. Maybe you could get your sexual frustration that is very obvious in this post out by taking some propositional logic classes so you know how to word your sentences better.

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Also, I already mentioned that I voted no lynch and that I am very likely going to change it in a previous post. I'm very likely going to vote SarasaKat, but if I do, I'll share why I am then.

@Trundle wow i don't even really know what to say to you atm, you seem very harsh and overreacting and even attacking to me just stating the fact that you tried to turn what i said >

@Ness im not, i have no clue what he's role is, nor have a ever claimed to don't twist my post what i was referring to was i just found it really weird you said this tbh >>>



this to me says "i rather lynch a blue role then not lynch anyone", its a bit unsettling to me.

into this >

If we never take the risk to lynch, then we lose period. Your logic is a bit flawed.

not sure what this reaction from you means.

 

[Arstotzkan]

I just got home, but I'm extremely sore and exhausted, no clue why though.

After reading everything so far, i would like a Panda lynch por favor. She's not doing a single thing to help town in the numerous posts she has. Doesn't seem to have a firm opinion. I can see her wanting no lynch, because she would know the top lynch candidates are innocent. And she could just say "I didn't want them lynched". She's not helping much with her flawed logic and I think she'd be a good lynch. Nothing else to go off of since my other reads are just null.

Also, Dolby is lurking a lot and being very quiet. I think he's blue snipping and we should lynch him because silent Dolby is a dangerous one

EZIC scum already executed in name of glorious Arstotzkaza
(Dolby's host Daniel )

 

[Ayaya]

@Jacob: Lynching an inactive is even worse than lynching Trojan purely out of his playstyle history though. I'll prod them by sending a PM, but they're likely to be replaced or modkilled otherwise, so we'll be wasting a lynch on them.

That said, this is the most active mafia game I've played and I'm honestly a bit overwhelmed at how much I have to read. It made me realize that I usually play with people who posts little/mostly filler or just lurking. Things stand out easier before, but I have to look harder now with the amount of posts with at least one big paragraph.

To make things easier for me and for other people, who would you be OK with lynching today, outside of policy lynching reasons?

I'm seeing a lot of discussions and argument but some people have changed their thoughts after time, so with voting deadline only a few hours away, I'd like to hear your thoughts now.

As for me, I've been skimming through the thread and find Ness and SarasaKat the most suspicious. Ness has been wishy-washy, and SarasaKat, well... I honestly can't pinpoint why. From skimming through the thread, I see her mostly responding to things and despite her amount of posts, I'm not getting townreads from them. This is purely from skimming through the thread last night and this morning, so it's not really a case, just sharing my views so far.

I'm also a bit surprised at how fast Panda improved from the last game. She doesn't posts as many filler now and actually sharing her thoughts about the game, instead of questioning any new info brought up without reading back.

Gonna look through the thread more closely now while I wait for responses.

 

[Arstotzkan]

Daniel, do you have any opinion on anyone else/big issues? Any town reads?

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Ayaya, you've found me scummy 2/2 times now Damn you don't like me.

I mainly reply to things though, regardless of alignment. You can probably look back through all of my games and see that trend, if you'd like. It's how I scumhunt.

 

[Sataric]

@Sataric so Trojan never replied to you PM message offering to "recruit him as your minion" ha ?

No, Trojan did in fact reply. The tone was negative though, and included the line:

"Don't even know if I want to continue playing with all this **** people are throwing at me."

There was very little discussion taking place after that between us. All I did afterwards was try to encourage Trojan not to let the game get to them, and gave them a compliment for ending the night early during Oath's game preventing Mafia from getting kills done that night. I think Trojan is an easy target to start a bandwagon against, and I vocalized that. There was no further discussion about us somehow working together afterwards, and I think that ultimately I prefer it that way because from a meta-analytical viewpoint Trojan is NOT playing exactly quite like they normally are in this game if you ask me, which could be a scum-tell. I'm getting different vibes this time around.

That said, I have to get some sleep so this will be my last chance to vote. Since I am against a No Lynch proposal, I do want to put my vote down somewhere helpful, but my Day 1 reads aren't extremely strong.

I feel like one of either Minties and SarasaKat is likely to be scum. Heck, possibly even both. It would not be beyond them to fight with each other so eagerly so that when one flips red you automatically feel that the other one is cleared. Problem is that they are both good players and it'd be a huge loss to mislynch one of them.

Regarding Ness, I am leaning towards him being town, so I will not vote for him. The fact that he freaked out when he felt that his QT was compromised implies to me that he's town and very paranoid about a possible leak. That worry seemed very real to me, so I will not vote for them.

Panda has rubbed me the wrong way. They seems to be trying much harder in this game than they normally does as town, and is more adamant about their opinions not being disregarded or overlooked. This change in playstyle is the strongest reason I suspect her.

Trojan could be either Town or scum. I am very 50/50 on them.

Trundle is doing a couple of moves that strongly reminds me of his old-school scum behavior. In true Trundle fashion, I will not mention exactly what I am referring to at this point in time since it will cause them to act differently. Maybe I am already saying too much. In any case, I won't vote for them today but will keep them on my radar.

Nobody has questioned EnderWiggin, as far as I can see. Not one person. Yes, they made some great posts and perhaps that is why - But they are fully capable of making such posts regardless of alignment. If they survive for many days and nights, and continue to contribute in a similarly powerful way that they have been trying to do already, something is a bit off..

I definitely do not trust Zoolka fully, but I feel like they are the more town-oriented in their little 'snag' with Doughssant. I got bad vibes from Dough coming in to the thread and going all "Omg, I have been betrayed!" when that clearly was not the case, and it seemed like a desperate attempt at making Zoolka look much worse than the scenario called for. Furthermore, Doughssant PMed her hunting for a roleclaim. Is Doughssant the kind of player that would really do that if they were town? I'm not sure. Think they might have been trying to contribute to their scum team with making a role-list.

Daniel has been scum in every game that I have played with them so far. At first I thought they seemed more town-oriented this game but then when I read through their posts again I am far from sure.

Kit, Lucanosa, and RuneRaider is the most silent players of the bunch, I feel. Not sure about actual post count - Just feel like they have contributed with pretty much nothing at this stage of the game. M3ow_ has been unnaturally silent and not at all playing like they normally are. I have no idea what is up with that.

Anyways, I will go brush my teeth and get ready for bed, but then I'll cast my vote. Think I will be placing it on doughssant if nothing changes very quickly. They voted no-lynch, and I am against that idea, plus their behavior earlier was a little unsettling to me. It is not a strong case by any means but it's the best I feel like I can do right now. Perfectly willing to go for Panda instead if that is more likely to go through and avoid the No Lynch option becoming majority, as they are acting shady in my eyes.

 

[PandaDarling]

I am not as skilled as most players here, I've only played about 4 or 5 games, so I don't have as well reads as you guys.
My vote for today is either going to:

No Lynch
Trojan (not likely to vote him)
M3ow_ / Kit

based off other's opinions on lynching inactives and people's last minute votes, that's how I will determine out of these 3.

@Jacob i was considering a M30w or Kit vote at some point but then if we do that, it would give us nothing at all, cause no one has even made a stance against either of them, so no im not for voting for either of them at the point in time.

I just got home, but I'm extremely sore and exhausted, no clue why though.

After reading everything so far, i would like a Panda lynch por favor. She's not doing a single thing to help town in the numerous posts she has. Doesn't seem to have a firm opinion. I can see her wanting no lynch, because she would know the top lynch candidates are innocent. And she could just say "I didn't want them lynched". She's not helping much with her flawed logic and I think she'd be a good lynch. Nothing else to go off of since my other reads are just null.

Also, Dolby is lurking a lot and being very quiet. I think he's blue snipping and we should lynch him because silent Dolby is a dangerous one

@Danielexcuse me ? have you even read the thread ? i mean not just the last two pages ?

and either the Dolby thing is another example of your poor humor attempts haha or your clearly uncertain as to what is going on in this game.

 

[Arstotzkan]

who would you be OK with lynching today, outside of policy lynching reasons?
Minties and Jacob. Not really sure what to make of Panda for now.

 

[Jacob]

@Jacob: Lynching an inactive is even worse than lynching Trojan purely out of his playstyle history though. I'll prod them by sending a PM, but they're likely to be replaced or modkilled otherwise, so we'll be wasting a lynch on them.

Ok that makes sense, thank you

To make things easier for me and for other people, who would you be OK with lynching today, outside of policy lynching reasons?

Well it looks like it's back to square one for me, so I am contempt with Trojan or an inactive, but if anyone else has a valid lynch candidate, I might as well vote along if enough people do

 

[Arstotzkan]

Hanging out with Dad so afk for a while

 

[Jacob]

Hanging out with Dad so afk for a while

Same, shower than homework.
I will read back every hour or something

 

[Sataric]

Also, I already mentioned that I voted no lynch and that I am very likely going to change it in a previous post. I'm very likely going to vote SarasaKat, but if I do, I'll share why I am then.

Any chance that you could consider sharing this ASAP before I go to bed, as it may influence how I wish to vote? Please do consider that, at least, if you don't think it would be putting yourself into a bad position.

Well it looks like it's back to square one for me, so I am contempt with Trojan or an inactive, but if anyone else has a valid lynch candidate, I might as well vote along if enough people do

Just curious; What do you think of perhaps Doughssant or someone more controversial like Minties?

 

[PandaDarling]

who would you be OK with lynching today, outside of policy lynching reasons? I think I'd have to say Doughssant or maybe Jacob i just don't like how much (or how little rather) they are contributing sure they might be post a little but don't think any of it really is of much help.

-also i try to step my game play up to be more useful to my team and have clearer more thought out post so the information can be easily presented to them and this is the thanks i get ?

 

[Jacob]

Just curious; What do you think of perhaps Doughssant or someone more controversial like Minties?

ok last post haha

They both seem pretty town to me.
when Doughssant is mafia he usually puts more effort into the game iirc
I have never played with Minties, but I can tell when people get suspicious of her she grows a little frustrated, that might just be her play style, but it could also be because she doesnt want anyone to mislynch her. Again, idk cuz ive never played with her.
People mention that she could be using this as a strategy to make us think she's town (worked for me!) so we'll have to see what she's like in the days to come honestly. (I am actually relying on the more skilled players like you to break down her behavorial pattern this game for me as the game progresses- she is very smart
if you guys see something that I don't, please don't let my read stop you from voting either of these 2 haha)

 

[PandaDarling]

FYI i just placed my vote on Doughssant because of what i stated before, them not being much help and for their weird PM exchange with Zoolka makes them look sus in my eyes. im still willing listen and open to other point of views and opinions.

 

[PandaDarling]

FYI i just placed my vote on Doughssant because of what i stated before, them not being much help and for their weird PM exchange with Zoolka makes them look sus in my eyes. im still willing listen and open to other point of views and opinions.

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