Politics General Discussion Thread - "USA Presidential Election 2016" Editon

[Ikatteiru mokkin]

we should implement national socialism to unite white America, and make us great again
\TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP
NO BREAKS ON THE TRAIN

 

[L. Lawliet]

I agree, it doesn't help. Peaceful protests yes, I am with. But they are voicing their opinions entirely the wrong way. And idiots are using social media to be trolls on both parts (the amount of stupid memes I have seen... mannnn). It's like people don't know what peace is anymore.

Mhmmm. This has played to party politics and stereotypes so bad. Main protesters are millennials and this is them protesting over them not getting their way. This messes up views of our generation folks

 

[-Apples-]

Mhmmm. This has played to party politics and stereotypes so bad. Main protesters are millennials and this is them protesting over them not getting their way. This messes up views of our generation folks

It sure does. Millennials are more left winged than the previous generations, and the more left-winged millennials care more about their feelings than democracy.

 

[xanisha]

Mhmmm. This has played to party politics and stereotypes so bad. Main protesters are millennials and this is them protesting over them not getting their way. This messes up views of our generation folks

You are missing the point this is not about sides, its about doing whats right. These protests are happening because a man who has made fun disabled people, made racist comments, said that he can sexually assault women and get away with it, made fun of a gold star family, and more gross things is becoming president. They are protesting because his method of dividing people and alienating people is not what America represents to them.

 

[KermitTea]

^^And also 8 years of Obama has made them forget that 1) there's a democracy 2) there's another half of America 3) how to lose, but keep going and fight for their values as Republicans have for the past administration

Or maybe some are just really, really butthurt. I can see why. But it's going way too far right now.

 

[L. Lawliet]

You are missing the point this is not about sides, its about doing whats right. These protests are happening because a man who has made fun disabled people, made racist comments, said that he can sexually assault women and get away with it, made fun of a gold star family, and more gross things is becoming president. They are protesting because his method of dividing people and alienating people is not what America represents to them.

Let me ask you this. Do you think America would be OK with the things Hillary has done and still let her become president?
Those emails discussed so many illegal and morally wrong things. Foreign funding of her campaign(from countries that dont allow women to drive or be independent), rigging the DNC primary, joking about a child rape court case in 1980, and Benghazi?

The point is, even if Hillary won, or Bernie got there and won, protests like this would not happen. Would Republicans be upset? Yeah. Their candidate lost. But do they protest and take to the streets and call for assassination on twitter? No. They don't. They didn't do it when Obama won twice in a row. This isn't a protest hat stems from wanting change. 6.5 million Democrats who were registered but didn't vote. they could have decided the election. they didnt. This is one that stems from not being able to handle a different viewpoint.

 

[KermitTea]

Btw, also interesting to note that Youtube is censoring videos of Trump supporters getting beat up. If anyone wants more proof of this happening, lmk / pm me and I'll gladly give you more links.

And well said, L. Lawliet!

 

[oath2order]

Let me ask you this. Do you think America would be OK with the things Hillary has done and still let her become president?
Those emails discussed so many illegal and morally wrong things. Foreign funding of her campaign(from countries that dont allow women to drive or be independent), rigging the DNC primary, joking about a child rape court case in 1980, and Benghazi?

The point is, even if Hillary won, or Bernie got there and won, protests like this would not happen. Would Republicans be upset? Yeah. Their candidate lost. But do they protest and take to the streets and call for assassination on twitter? No. They don't. They didn't do it when Obama won twice in a row. This isn't a protest hat stems from wanting change. 6.5 million Democrats who were registered but didn't vote. they could have decided the election. they didnt. This is one that stems from not being able to handle a different viewpoint.

You mean like how the Republicans swore to make Obama a one term president and opposed every single thing he tried to do? The ones who refused to allow him to do his constitutional mandate to appoint a justice because THEY wanted to be able to nominate one?

The sacks of **** politicians saying we need to come together now we're the same ones pushing division back then

 

[L. Lawliet]

You mean like how the Republicans swore to make Obama a one term president and opposed every single thing he tried to do? The ones who refused to allow him to do his constitutional mandate to appoint a justice because THEY wanted to be able to nominate one?

The sacks of **** politicians saying we need to come together now we're the same ones pushing division back then

Like Bernie Sanders?

 

[Cory]

I love how hillary supporters play the victim card

 

[xanisha]

Let me ask you this. Do you think America would be OK with the things Hillary has done and still let her become president?
Those emails discussed so many illegal and morally wrong things. Foreign funding of her campaign(from countries that dont allow women to drive or be independent), rigging the DNC primary, joking about a child rape court case in 1980, and Benghazi?

The point is, even if Hillary won, or Bernie got there and won, protests like this would not happen. Would Republicans be upset? Yeah. Their candidate lost. But do they protest and take to the streets and call for assassination on twitter? No. They don't. They didn't do it when Obama won twice in a row. This isn't a protest hat stems from wanting change. 6.5 million Democrats who were registered but didn't vote. they could have decided the election. they didnt. This is one that stems from not being able to handle a different viewpoint.

No it stems from them not liking a man who says horrible things, they are not upset because a democrat lost, I doubt this would have happened at all if another republican had won or if trump had not said so many terrible things about so many groups of people. If he had not made fun of disabled people, made fun of a veterans family, nor had he said so many racist comments I doubt this would be happening. These protests are not about democrat and republican sides, it's about a man who says things that should not be said by the president of a country filled with so many diverse people.

 

[chibibunnyx]

The toxic is coming out of all of you. Breathe, relax, it's politics. People are offended yeah. None of you care, we get it. Butthurt whatever you wanna call it. But you all are taking it too far. No one is playing victim, people are actually offended. None of us can go run office, so let it go.

Talk about it but stop pushing people's buttons, lol You're getting out of pocket for no reason. Heated conversations like this are why so many of us outside aren't even talking and are actually fighting. Do you really want to have a election make people hate each other? Think with your brains for a bit. I'm sorry but don't let the way the candidates have ridiculed each other in this ridiculous shameful election make it okay for there to be such backlash in a friendly forum like this. Chill out. Go have a drink or something idk lol


Like damn, I don't wanna have to ask, are you a trump/hillary supporter before making a trade, lmao relax people. These conversations are the result of a really stupid election era, is there a restart button with new people?

 

[dierefuji]

Do I belong on another planet? Surely everyone should have the right to love and marry whoever they want, no matter where they are. There shouldn't be a "either banned or state decision" option. It should be common sense.

What next? Marriage to anyone is illegal in every state except this one, this one, and this one? It's okay to murder in this state, this state, and this state? Get your abortions here, everyone!

So dumb.

reserved powers fam! im gay so naturally i believe gay marriage should be legal but its in the constitution, the 10th amendment™

trust me, you'd rather have trump than pence
pence is an actual lunatic

honestly this was incredibly smart on trump's part-- no one would try to assassinate trump because pence is out of his mind and him being president would be miles worse
inb4 just assassinate him too
assassinations are incredibly hard, like i saw a documentary on assassination attempts on u.s. presidents and the culprit was usually contained very quickly
you'd be shutdown easily before you could kill both

 

[Bowie]

Accurate.

 

[Kaleidoscopes]

Red Pill incoming.

"A person who is demoralized is unable to asses true information. Facts tell nothing to him. Even if I shower him with authentic proof, with documents, with pictures, even if I take him by force to the Soviet Union and show him a concentration camp he will refuse to believe it."

 

[L. Lawliet]

this should inform you on how the electoral college works.

 

[oath2order]

reserved powers fam! im gay so naturally i believe gay marriage should be legal but its in the constitution, the 10th amendment?

The Supreme Court said that it's Constitutional tho.

this should inform you on how the electoral college works.

The downside to the electoral college is, every year, we choose our president based on what party Florida and Ohio are least angry with.

 

[Taj]

Too bad Ohio is only useful in politics and being made fun of in the 1960's

 

[L. Lawliet]

The Supreme Court said that it's Constitutional tho.



The downside to the electoral college is, every year, we choose our president based on what party Florida and Ohio are least angry with.

we agree on this here, albeit for different reasons. however, i understand why it is there. if it went purely popular vote, the eastern seaboard and california would control everything in between. As the video said, you need to go to every state to get the votes you need. Hillary focused on swing states this year, and sent tim kaine to ones that weren't swing states or big cities. Ideallogically the popular vote would be better for establishment, but a nightmare to grassroots candidates

 

[KermitTea]

To the person that said Trump was not one of the more accepting LGBT Republicans

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/23/us/politics/donald-trump-gay-rights.html

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And guess what! It's from a outlet that denounced Trump a while back!