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Smash Bros Smash Bros. Ultimate Discussion Thread

Despite the leaks not being real, this Direct blew me away and completely sold me on the game! I can't wait.
 
The previous bit about Shantae is only made worse with the inclusion of Piranha Plant. Don't get me wrong, Piranha Plant seems like they'll be fun to play and I'm looking forward to trying them out, but it's difficult not to feel a little annoyed when there were so many other characters that people want.

I feel like Piranha Plant was just a last minute thought and a screw you to leakers from Nintendo. If there was no Piranha Plant, I don't think there would have been anyone to replace it.
 
Well that was a major downer.

Certainly Ultimate is a solid Smash Bros game, but I'm afraid I may not be buying it after all. My hype was completely and totally decimated by this Direct. As I said, Ultimate certainly is solid and deserves major credit for character additions like Ridley and K Rool, but at the end of the day they feel like a fluke, because other largely popular characters like Isaac got completely shafted, once again. And then we get a generic Mario enemy as a playable character?

I honestly wish they hadn't with Piranha plant because that is honestly what turned me completely sour to this game. Not the Grinch leak being fake (or...whatever happened with it, you see I think Ken's pose and spot matched up which... I have no idea what that means), my favorite character being shafted again, but that all happening and then they found time to develop a generic enemy as a full-blown character. The developers just aren't relatable to me at all anymore. They could have spent that time developing a character of actual significance, but no... Now the door is opened for Bokoblins, Goombas, etc. to become playable characters.
 
Now the door is opened for Bokoblins, Goombas, etc. to become playable characters.

For real I wouldn't mind a Goomba. I have no idea what the moveset would be like but it would be really cute imo.

Also I have a feeling the DLC characters will be quite significant since they're paid and there's only 5 of them. I bet they'll be some of the ones people really want.
 
I never looked at the Grinch leaked so I really wasn't disappointed at all on the character reveal. I think we can all agree that no one saw Piranha Plant get into the roster. Yet at the same time, it's so weird that this happened... But hey, there's gonna be five dlc to be released through February 2020 so all hope is not lost! I wanted Crash Bandicoot to get in but that's just a dream...
 
Well that was a major downer.

Certainly Ultimate is a solid Smash Bros game, but I'm afraid I may not be buying it after all. My hype was completely and totally decimated by this Direct. As I said, Ultimate certainly is solid and deserves major credit for character additions like Ridley and K Rool, but at the end of the day they feel like a fluke, because other largely popular characters like Isaac got completely shafted, once again. And then we get a generic Mario enemy as a playable character?

I honestly wish they hadn't with Piranha plant because that is honestly what turned me completely sour to this game. Not the Grinch leak being fake (or...whatever happened with it, you see I think Ken's pose and spot matched up which... I have no idea what that means), my favorite character being shafted again, but that all happening and then they found time to develop a generic enemy as a full-blown character. The developers just aren't relatable to me at all anymore. They could have spent that time developing a character of actual significance, but no... Now the door is opened for Bokoblins, Goombas, etc. to become playable characters.

Kinda confused - are you saying you don't want to buy the game because certain characters aren't in it? Seems like a weird reason to me, but I enjoy games for the competitive aspect and I guess not everyone does.
 
I was super excited when I saw the initial World of Light trailer ^^ I loved subspace emissary, but when I saw the gameplay for it, I thought that it would be a lot less story oriented compared to the first story mode
 
Well that was a major downer.

Certainly Ultimate is a solid Smash Bros game, but I'm afraid I may not be buying it after all. My hype was completely and totally decimated by this Direct. As I said, Ultimate certainly is solid and deserves major credit for character additions like Ridley and K Rool, but at the end of the day they feel like a fluke, because other largely popular characters like Isaac got completely shafted, once again. And then we get a generic Mario enemy as a playable character?

I honestly wish they hadn't with Piranha plant because that is honestly what turned me completely sour to this game. Not the Grinch leak being fake (or...whatever happened with it, you see I think Ken's pose and spot matched up which... I have no idea what that means), my favorite character being shafted again, but that all happening and then they found time to develop a generic enemy as a full-blown character. The developers just aren't relatable to me at all anymore. They could have spent that time developing a character of actual significance, but no... Now the door is opened for Bokoblins, Goombas, etc. to become playable characters.

This ain't it chief.
 
The Spirits mode looks so, so cool (<3 the watercolor backgrounds) and I like how Sakurai found a way to make his boy Kirby the main character...but all I could think about was how traumatized he must be under that ' . ' face (except the point where all I could think about was that SHULK KNEW ABOUT THE ATTACK AND COULDN'T DO ANYTHING AT THAT POINT AND WE'RE DEFINITELY SEEING THAT BAGGAGE AGAIN. SHEESH)

Lol I'm glad I don't fandom this. The fakes community seems to have moved on from wish fufillment to seeing what they can make people believe. Can someone bring me up to speed on how so many people became certain about The Grinch? (To be fair, you guys got me to deeply fear Steve for a moment. :p)

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Or is it called World of Light? Sorry
 
So my partner was just discussing with me that they'd like to get a Switch just to play Piranha Plant.
I was egging them on, but in the end they said that they'd just end up not playing it enough.
I'd REALLY like to wait till there's an AC themed Switch, so I may able to convince them just to preorder the game still...
 
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Well that was a major downer.

Certainly Ultimate is a solid Smash Bros game, but I'm afraid I may not be buying it after all. My hype was completely and totally decimated by this Direct. As I said, Ultimate certainly is solid and deserves major credit for character additions like Ridley and K Rool, but at the end of the day they feel like a fluke, because other largely popular characters like Isaac got completely shafted, once again. And then we get a generic Mario enemy as a playable character?

I honestly wish they hadn't with Piranha plant because that is honestly what turned me completely sour to this game. Not the Grinch leak being fake (or...whatever happened with it, you see I think Ken's pose and spot matched up which... I have no idea what that means), my favorite character being shafted again, but that all happening and then they found time to develop a generic enemy as a full-blown character. The developers just aren't relatable to me at all anymore. They could have spent that time developing a character of actual significance, but no... Now the door is opened for Bokoblins, Goombas, etc. to become playable characters.

I'm still kinda revelling in the smash direct and its partially due to thoughts like this. All the leakers are saying wow this was terrible or bad direct and the only thing they say its in relation to is that "insert character" wasn't added to the roster. But like you shouldn't feel entitled to believe anyone is 100% in until these announcements happen. The only reason these people are super salty is because they let their own hopes get too high due to leaks and then get proved wrong... but none of that is actually nintendo's fault, and then people want to transfer that resentment to the direct.It's not fair to the game for that and I just think its funny watching all their videos like that because they act so cringe (BillyBo10k for example)

Envy said:
my favorite character being shafted again, but that all happening and then they found time to develop a generic enemy as a full-blown character. The developers just aren't relatable to me at all anymore

For example, they didn't personally shaft your character with this.... its just nintendo had other reasons for doing what they did. Piranha plant yeah is a "generic character" but its a departure from the regular types of characters they put in which is probably what they were thinking rather than... let's piss off all the golden sun, rhythm heaven, banjo-kazooie fans. This is going back to what I said about isaac the first time... he is another hero, with a sword, and is blonde, he may use magic but still... that in itself makes him "generic" when he is put in a roster with mario, samus, link, 50 billion fire emblem reps, and others.

This game looks dope and I have been hype since the announcement. I don't typically follow leaks/ pre-order games, but I did for this one. I think the Isabelle and Piranha plant reveals have been my favorite parts because they are incorporating things that you wouldn't expect from a style perspective. These games are usually about protagonists and "heroes", so to see lil isabelle get put in is great. To see something so weird and unexpected like piranha plant (I never was as hype for wii fit, duck hunt, or ROB) is hilarious and shows nintendos creativity and departing form the norm which I very much appreciate. Nintendo has clearly done enough fan service with Ridley, K Rool, and Castlevania, so to think they would just do fan service for everyone is annoying... its these unexepected ones that their known for and we all should've known something like this was coming. I look forward to dropping my spiky balls and pipe spiking all the haters when it comes out.

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Also I hated the added effects stuff to Smash 4, but spirits looks actually interesting and fun.... so thats a win from me

And the adventure looks SO GOOD! the music was eh, but its just not my thing. Visuals, concept, and gameplay-wise though looks spectacular
 
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Isabelle and Dark Samus are the only characters that were freed from the assist trophy hell. I don’t understand why Shadow wasn’t freed from it, but I guess you can’t have what you want in life.

DLC is coming for smash, so I hope the villager from Mario Kart 8 makes it into smash as an echo to smash villager. I didn’t see him being used as an assist trophy, so he still has a chance.
 
I’m confused... people keep saying “Piranha Plant”. Are you guys talking about Petey Piranha or just a generic Piranha Plant from levels in Mario games? I missed the Direct, so I guess I need to look at all of the information for the game when I get a chance.
 
Spike Spiegel
It's a Piranha Plant in a flowerpot, then it's final smash is that it turns into Petey Piranha.
 
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