Mafia TBT Mafia: Game of Thrones - A Crown for a King - GAME OVER

[N e s s]

I disagree. This is Blu's town behavior. When Blu is mafia they appear a lot more articulate and put together because he thinks his posts out more as to avoid suspicion. On the part you found evasive, Blu said "idk it's hard to put into words" which, if Blu was mafia, would have just been a whole deleted paragraph altogether. I see full truthfulness.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Kinda curious for more of Tom's thoughts on the lynch now that llama has flipped town. I'm just going to bring up something that happened earlier this game:

Spoiler: Sus on Daniel

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...King-DAY-ONE&p=6130293&viewfull=1#post6130293

This post is literally just pushing a single player with really no reasoning from the start of the game. This was shortly after I mentioned that I found a post from llama suspicious right here.

Thinking from the perspective of Daniel as mafia, I believe he just wanted to jump on my read (my post there was actually nothing substantial, I just posted so Kit and Ness wouldn't yell at me (spoiler: they did anyway)).
So Daniel actually posts almost exactly the same as I do here for reasons I do not know and then proceeds to elaborate on pretty much nothing in the quote above. I'm not sure what he was trying to get across - either trying to push the conversation forward or pushing town lynch, but it's stupid and scummy. Either way, if that doesn't look off to you I don't know what does. Your move, Daniel.

You know I actually have that post in my list of things right now, i'm glad you caught onto this.

 

[Endless]

Ender, you're going to need a really good reason for misrepresenting me saying ashtot was town for what he said as me agreeing with him or you're dead as heck tomorrow.

Ashtot, no idea where you got that from. I crushed the last 2 games I played on site and the only recorded losses I have involve me dying within the first 2 day/night phases. Additionally, it's kind of funny you're claiming I sheeped you and simultaneously calling me **** for my day 1 read. Like, you're literally calling me bad for my read exclusive to your reads. That isn't how sheeping works lmao.
Don't make the error of me saying you're town be misinterpreted as me saying your game is currently on point, because it isn't.

I'm pretty sure ness is serious, so I'll let someone else awkwardly tell him to re-iso me and discover a wealth of posts aggressively going after m3ow.

 

[N e s s]

I'm pretty sure ness is serious, so I'll let someone else awkwardly tell him to re-iso me and discover a wealth of posts aggressively going after m3ow.

I made my post on the page that you said she was obvious mafia, I went back and saw you making posts about her again.

 

[Endless]

Side note: I find it amusing that people are talking about "the starks being the town alignment" as a possibility when it's blatant from the initial day post regardless of anything else.

Side note #2: the story is placed directly after the death of ned stark. Characters like Jon snow had no impact at this point. Him being anything other than green considering his position in the lore would be weird.

 

[Ashtot]

Ender, you're going to need a really good reason for misrepresenting me saying ashtot was town for what he said as me agreeing with him or you're dead as heck tomorrow.

Ashtot, no idea where you got that from. I crushed the last 2 games I played on site and the only recorded losses I have involve me dying within the first 2 day/night phases. Additionally, it's kind of funny you're claiming I sheeped you and simultaneously calling me **** for my day 1 read. Like, you're literally calling me bad for my read exclusive to your reads. That isn't how sheeping works lmao.
Don't make the error of me saying you're town be misinterpreted as me saying your game is currently on point, because it isn't.

I'm pretty sure ness is serious, so I'll let someone else awkwardly tell him to re-iso me and discover a wealth of posts aggressively going after m3ow.

Not claiming that you sheeped me, just claiming that you think you're much better than you are, which is true. I mean come on, your user title is "Smugly egotistical". As terribly cringey as it already is, it's basically a claim to ignorance, so I expect that behaviour from you.

You can point your finger at me and try to make me sound bad as much as you'd like, but it is ultimately irrelevant.

To be fair to N e s s, it's true that you pushed m3ow, but you ended up flipping over to llama for stupid reasoning so you pushing m3ow doesn't mean anything. It could be a simple bus.

- - - Post Merge - - -

I'm a bit weary of Tina because of her tone. She's normally like this early on but at the same time, apathy is anti-Town. If there's anyone here who knows how she plays, I'd like to hear some analysis.

Also Oath, Trundle, and Tom, I'd like to hear your reads so far.

 

[N e s s]

Not claiming that you sheeped me, just claiming that you think you're much better than you are, which is true. I mean come on, your user title is "Smugly egotistical". As terribly cringey as it already is, it's basically a claim to ignorance, so I expect that behaviour from you.

You can point your finger at me and try to make me sound bad as much as you'd like, but it is ultimately irrelevant.

To be fair to N e s s, it's true that you pushed m3ow, but you ended up flipping over to llama for stupid reasoning so you pushing m3ow doesn't mean anything. It could be a simple bus.

- - - Post Merge - - -

I'm a bit weary of Tina because of her tone. She's normally like this early on but at the same time, apathy is anti-Town. If there's anyone here who knows how she plays, I'd like to hear some analysis.

Also Oath, Trundle, and Tom, I'd like to hear your reads so far.

uhhhhhh

I've never pushed m3ow?

- - - Post Merge - - -

Well we had to get 2 Townies to claim, me included. So...great.

Can we please do a M3ow lynch or something, she's suspicious to me.

The only time I ever pushed her was this

 

[Ashtot]

uhhhhhh

I've never pushed m3ow?

- - - Post Merge - - -



The only time I ever pushed her was this

I wasn't talking to you at all, I was talking to Endless.

 

[N e s s]

I wasn't talking to you at all, I was talking to Endless.

Oh, ok.

- - - Post Merge - - -

It's easy to state that "the llama case was bad" and "it was a bad lynch" after the fact, but the truth of the matter is no one opposed the wagon while it was happening because it wasn't a illegitimate wagon: The logic that lead to it was sound. The tells were interpreted mildly incorrectly, but that's all there is to it. This is a reasonably good time to remember that there isn't any way to certainly find mafia, the best people can do is successive approximations to a highly educated guess. There isn't some conspiracy of vets that opted to intentionally misread llama, he just red told enough that either vets misread him or vets realised that there was a legitimate case to be made on a non-red player.

That being said, Ashtot has incredibly predictable meta and his indecisive play -> call out immediately after an incorrect lynch is straight up towntot. That's a reasonably strong read and I doubt I'll back down on it.

I'm also really, really jarred by Ender saying he liked ashtot's post. Reasonably chance we're dealing with Ender!mafia.

Wait no, Endless never wanted a Llama's lynch so your invalid. He never bussed him either.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Ebwop: He never wanted a Llama's lynch.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Llamas is far and away the best Lynch.

He also said this.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Also Endless said he was townreading you so he's not pointing any fingers at you?

 

[EnderWiggin]

Ender, you're going to need a really good reason for misrepresenting me saying ashtot was town for what he said as me agreeing with him or you're dead as heck tomorrow.

That's not what I was saying?

Endless, what the ****. You've played with me a ton, how do you not know my "This post is nice" = "I think this is a town post" NOT "I agree with the contents of this post".

Though I think a Vet team is quite possible.

 

[Chris]

I'm a bit weary of Tina because of her tone. She's normally like this early on but at the same time, apathy is anti-Town. If there's anyone here who knows how she plays, I'd like to hear some analysis.

It's not related to the game. I'm upset.

 

[oath2order]

Not claiming that you sheeped me, just claiming that you think you're much better than you are, which is true. I mean come on, your user title is "Smugly egotistical". As terribly cringey as it already is, it's basically a claim to ignorance, so I expect that behaviour from you.

You can point your finger at me and try to make me sound bad as much as you'd like, but it is ultimately irrelevant.

To be fair to N e s s, it's true that you pushed m3ow, but you ended up flipping over to llama for stupid reasoning so you pushing m3ow doesn't mean anything. It could be a simple bus.

- - - Post Merge - - -

I'm a bit weary of Tina because of her tone. She's normally like this early on but at the same time, apathy is anti-Town. If there's anyone here who knows how she plays, I'd like to hear some analysis.

Also Oath, Trundle, and Tom, I'd like to hear your reads so far.

I thought Kit and Ness were scum.

Maybe not so much Ness.

idk who else

 

[KarlaKGB]

Endless, I find your attempt to appear as if you've done anything but agree with me pretty funny. I understand that it's hard to come to terms with the fact that you just aren't that great at this game, but we still love you so its okay. The truth is, sometimes you have okay reads, but other times they are completely backwards. If I remember correctly you scumread someone who was very obviously town in a recent game which had pretty much shattered any reputation you had, and it seems as though you're still on that track. You're right about me being Town, but it has. Nothing to do with me "watching and then pointing fingers". I was away all of yesterday until after the lynch happened, which if you had read my post and seen that I said that I'd just read about 30 pages, you would understand. Your lack of effort and bandwagoning would seem like a scumtell in the past, but now that you've shown that you just don't really know what you're doing, I'm having a hard time telling of you're just dumb Town or Mafia.

lol where did this come from

 

[N e s s]

I thought Kit and Ness were scum.

Maybe not so much Ness.

idk who else

I'm in your scum reads and now i'm not? Whats up with that?

 

[oath2order]

I'm in your scum reads and now i'm not? Whats up with that?

You claimed townie so I'll believe it for now.

This is a fairly simple concept.

 

[Meg-Mog]

Wow, this game is looking interesting. *grabs popcorn*

 

[Ashtot]

Wow, this game is looking interesting. *grabs popcorn*

Who do you think seems suspicious?

 

[N e s s]

Oath can you explain your scum read on Kit better?

 

[oath2order]

Oath can you explain your scum read on Kit better?

Gut feeling. I just think she's scum trying to distract town and she's like a goon or something.

 

[N e s s]

Gut feeling. I just think she's scum trying to distract town and she's like a goon or something.

I don't know what to think of this, but my brain turned to jelly thinking this through. I need to look into this.

 

[KarlaKGB]

kit trojan and daniel are excellent cop checks tonight