Mafia TBT Mafia IV: Red Revolution [Game Over/Mafia Win]
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This is precisely the reason why I have held back voting for you, or anyone for that matter. Your lynch on the first night of Mini Mafia has me doubting anyone I suspect. I won't be able to think on it any more, as I have 2 exams I have to complete tomorrow, therefore I'm just going to have to vote myself so I don't get modkilled.
Oh really? We suspected BBG because of the convo with Trundle, not only BBG don't forget Blu Rose, Fireninja also you (beary) for conspiracies part.
I never seen pally posting. Have you guys notice it or shes quitting?
Looking at things from all viewpoints? You cannot be sarcastic to that effect when that was the exact thing I was doing myself. In this case your viewpoint came across as suspicious so I acted on it.
Don't forget that those suspicions arose from you asking the detectives to role claim to you alone. I held off voting and you put on a good defence. We can move on now.
I have top 3 suspicion list (well not major major suspicion hahaha) and that is...
*Blu Rose- because of "improvement" post if you guys compare all his/her post it seems not right. We are not that sure if s/he really made this or a help from a scummy friend/ town side friend and also a sudden request for DT to investigate Tina I know some of you guys think she (Tina) is suspicious not all of us sure that Tina is a mafia unless she did something "suspicious" and why would you ask a DT to pm you? that is the s****y-ish thing you ever did there. though you are curious and stuff I guess it makes sense
It is time to let the DT investigate Blu Rose I'm counting on you
*Fireninja- Doesn't contribute at all accusing Mary w/o any proof at all huehuehue
*Beary- slip up she made the conspiracy part and her action is weird :U
*Blu Rose- because of "improvement" post if you guys compare all his/her post it seems not right. We are not that sure if s/he really made this or a help from a scummy friend/ town side friend and also a sudden request for DT to investigate Tina I know some of you guys think she (Tina) is suspicious not all of us sure that Tina is a mafia unless she did something "suspicious" and why would you ask a DT to pm you? that is the s****y-ish thing you ever did there. though you are curious and stuff I guess it makes sense
It is time to let the DT investigate Blu Rose I'm counting on you
*Fireninja- Doesn't contribute at all accusing Mary w/o any proof at all huehuehue
*Beary- slip up she made the conspiracy part and her action is weird :U
So we've just over nine hours to go and there are six votes for BellBringerGreen. We need 11 people (or 10 if I vote for him) to go through with it. But I'm getting the feeling people are hesitant. Is anyone confident about this lynch? If this isn't what town wants to go through with, then speak up now while we've still time to do something about it.
I want to put Blu Rose to the side for now. I liked his defence. I'm not confident he's town, but I'm willing to give him the chance to prove himself to be an asset to town. Although he went against me in his post, I like that he has the courage to speak against me. No doubt he raised questions you all had, right? This is why I didn't fight his comment about getting a detective to check me. It's up to the DT what they do. If you want to confirm me, then go ahead; surely it's what the mafia don't want. A theory that occurred to me after my initial post was that the mafia didn't kill me because they didn't want to (a) confirm my innocence to town, and (b) give me an opportunity to meet a medic. After seeing SP revealed as a miller, I'm approx 85% certain that my own check will come back Bolshevik. Of course, I'd rather the detectives work on checking suspects rather than confirming my town status but, ultimately, it's up to you. If it's what town want then I'll put my own name on the DT list tonight.
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* just under. apparently it takes Tina way too long to sit and work out percentages.
I want to put Blu Rose to the side for now. I liked his defence. I'm not confident he's town, but I'm willing to give him the chance to prove himself to be an asset to town. Although he went against me in his post, I like that he has the courage to speak against me. No doubt he raised questions you all had, right? This is why I didn't fight his comment about getting a detective to check me. It's up to the DT what they do. If you want to confirm me, then go ahead; surely it's what the mafia don't want. A theory that occurred to me after my initial post was that the mafia didn't kill me because they didn't want to (a) confirm my innocence to town, and (b) give me an opportunity to meet a medic. After seeing SP revealed as a miller, I'm approx 85% certain that my own check will come back Bolshevik. Of course, I'd rather the detectives work on checking suspects rather than confirming my town status but, ultimately, it's up to you. If it's what town want then I'll put my own name on the DT list tonight.
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* just under. apparently it takes Tina way too long to sit and work out percentages.
Okay...
ITookYourWaffles:
I am 100% sure that I made every single one of my posts myself. I still think of it to be of utmost importance that Tina be checked, because we don't really like scummy mayors, do we?
Yeah, I messed up. I know I messed up when telling the DT to pretty much roleclaim to me. But, I added something along these lines: "If you think I am suspicious, then you do not have to."
You can go back and check, if you want. Lastly, if it were a scummy f
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Crap, I accidentally hit Post, instead of Go Advanced...
Anyways, to continue my last post...
I would not know if s/he were a scummy friend. The only people I've PM'd this game are iLoveYou, Lauren, and Lunatic, and I think they have all cleared me as Townies, except maybe Lauren, because our conversation was extremely short.
All of them PM'd me for discussion purposes, or trying to clear me as a Bolshevik Revolutionary.
I am very annoyed at this point. I used the word conspiracies because it sounded better then sitting and waiting. I haven't even memorized the names of all the roles yet, darn it.
I really don't understand how one freakin word makes me scummy.
And I am really annoyed.
I really don't understand how one freakin word makes me scummy.
And I am really annoyed.
It's the meaning of the word you chose that is causing concern:
[Link to source]The Oxford Dictionary said:
Waffles brought up a point I was hoping you would comment on but you failed to even acknowledge it, so I'll bring it up again:
Could you please explain both your vote and what you mean by the comment highlighted in pink.
The only reason I know that she is playing is due to the opening post, and that her campaign post was pretty much this, but I'm not going to go back and look:
pallycake said:
To state the obvious, KarlaKGB isn't even playing this game...
But, she then added something about Jubs...
I don't remember.
Oh, and beary509, anything you say and do can be used against you, as this falls under the category "war" in the saying "All is fair in love and war."
We're trying to eliminate a counter-revolutionary threat here! Also, don't worry, I don't think anyone has memorized the roles completely, except for maybe the
*Note that this was not an attempt to defend beary509. This was just a reassuring sentence or two...
The above sentence probably erased all reassurance that existed.
Also, Tina...
Oxford Dictionary said:
I know that beary509 probably did not know this, but the exact next line has a part that could instantly make beary's situation make sense. Unfortunately, I don't think beary509 can use this as an excuse...
I understand that people are worried about voting for anyone in case they die a Town member. I, myself am not sure whether BBG will die Town or not and I was the second person to vote for him. Not voting is going to make you look just as suspicious, I promise. I'm not asking you guys to vote for BBG. I am asking for you guys simply to vote for whoever you feel suspicious though. If you guys give Mafia another place to hide (not posting, they can lurk. Not voting, they can remain hidden amongst everyone who didn't vote) then it's only benefitting them in the end. So please make the most of your life in this game while you are still alive.
I'm starting to have the feeling that BBG isn't Mafia simply because people aren't trying to vote for other people to protect him from getting lynched. Considering it'll affect Mafia KP, you'd think they'd try harder to protect him. Chances are he might not be Mafia. :/
Again, if anyone else has anything they can contribute to help us find a better lynch candidate, then please do so.
I'm starting to have the feeling that BBG isn't Mafia simply because people aren't trying to vote for other people to protect him from getting lynched. Considering it'll affect Mafia KP, you'd think they'd try harder to protect him. Chances are he might not be Mafia. :/
Again, if anyone else has anything they can contribute to help us find a better lynch candidate, then please do so.
First I would like to say that Trundle pmed me about my usertitle before he died, I told him that I was a townie. Second, the conversation that Trundle had with bbg strikes me odd enough for me to vote for him. Third, since the godfather role can be passed on, detectives would always have Tina showing up as town most likely and a rolecheck would be wasted on the godfather(if Tina was mafia). Tina I am not implying with the third thought that.you are mafia, merely the uselessness of a detective role-checking you.
It's not just that either, people want you to explain your vote for me since "there isn't really much more of a scummy player as of now."
I do not want to put the blame on Trundle since he PMed me first; it was my response that got me into this. But honestly, you have been ignoring a lot of the direct questions you have been asked. Please acknowledge them. You have plenty of time considering this is the weekend for PST/EST.
I'm torn between BellBringerGreen and FireNinja1.
|BELLBRINGERGREEN CASE|
FIRENINJA1:
|BELLBRINGERGREEN CASE|
FIRENINJA1:
I was going to let FireNinja1 go because I assumed along with SuperPenguin's strong Day one posts Mafia may have killed him to frame FireNinja seeing how much he pushed for his lynch over Mary's. But not hearing from him, not getting any contribuation from him, and then seeing him bandwagon onto the BellBringerGreen votes and NOT posting any reason whatsoever seems a bit questionable to me.
[19:48] <Laurina> Would you have done the Mary lynch differently though?
[19:48] <Superpenguin> Yes
[19:48] <Superpenguin> I would've done FireNinja.
[19:49] <Superpenguin> I mean, the Mary lynch will still benefit us, nontheless since she had mixed reactions from people where some believed she wa smafia, others didn't.
[19:50] <Superpenguin> But, FireNinja had a stronger case and is a weaker player, imo. Plus, Tina really only went for Mary cause she was the only notable Townie to come out so far. Though, I kind of think FireNinja was hinting he is a Townie in his defense post.
[19:51] <Superpenguin> Tina literally chickened out and tried not to hit the bodyguard. She cared less about hitting mafia and more about avoiding the bodyguard. And that came back to hurt her. And that basically sums up my view on mary's lynch
[19:54] <Laurina> If we didn't lynch her, her name would linger for future lynches by a majority of people. I never really looked into the Fireninja case and I need to if he survies night one. You were pushing FireNinja quite a bit before I left, I was surprised to see Mary's name. I thought you did a solid job with the reasons why we should lynch FireNinja. It's quite a shame how she decided to do that. I thought the discussion would last longer, kind of sad I missed it.
[19:56] <Superpenguin> I wanted Mary to stay alive longer because literally nobody came in to say anything in favor of a Mary lynch or against a Mary lynch in the thread.
[19:48] <Superpenguin> Yes
[19:48] <Superpenguin> I would've done FireNinja.
[19:49] <Superpenguin> I mean, the Mary lynch will still benefit us, nontheless since she had mixed reactions from people where some believed she wa smafia, others didn't.
[19:50] <Superpenguin> But, FireNinja had a stronger case and is a weaker player, imo. Plus, Tina really only went for Mary cause she was the only notable Townie to come out so far. Though, I kind of think FireNinja was hinting he is a Townie in his defense post.
[19:51] <Superpenguin> Tina literally chickened out and tried not to hit the bodyguard. She cared less about hitting mafia and more about avoiding the bodyguard. And that came back to hurt her. And that basically sums up my view on mary's lynch
[19:54] <Laurina> If we didn't lynch her, her name would linger for future lynches by a majority of people. I never really looked into the Fireninja case and I need to if he survies night one. You were pushing FireNinja quite a bit before I left, I was surprised to see Mary's name. I thought you did a solid job with the reasons why we should lynch FireNinja. It's quite a shame how she decided to do that. I thought the discussion would last longer, kind of sad I missed it.
[19:56] <Superpenguin> I wanted Mary to stay alive longer because literally nobody came in to say anything in favor of a Mary lynch or against a Mary lynch in the thread.
But we didn't hear from him again about what Tina had addressed. At least on the thread, he may have gave his reasonings on IRC (he seems to be on IRC more than spending on the thread, except every time I see him on IRC there is no talk of Mafia unless he's PMing someone) Instead we get a weak defense on why he isn't Mafia:
Beary, can you actually post something contributive instead of complaining about fluff text? This is making you look like scum even further. The reason why you were suspected as scum is because SP and Trundle suspected you and you posted nothing helpful at all. So, do you have any further thoughts on BBG's lynch?
If you guys don't feel confident in lynching BBG, we can leave him to a Vig I guess? Or we can do away with killing him in any possible way. I can't think of any other lynch candids other than Beary. And Beary isn't even a good lynch candidate at that.
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*Oh yeah, I forgot Fireninja as a lynch candidate.
If you guys don't feel confident in lynching BBG, we can leave him to a Vig I guess? Or we can do away with killing him in any possible way. I can't think of any other lynch candids other than Beary. And Beary isn't even a good lynch candidate at that.
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*Oh yeah, I forgot Fireninja as a lynch candidate.
Even though I realise it works against me to say this, I think you've a point. I've more to say on this but I'll talk through it in the Night 2 Plan, rather than just now.
I'd actually forgotten about that! He never did answer. He has PMed me via the IRC since then, but it was only to ask my opinion on BellBringerGreen.
I am heavily considering switching my vote onto a player like Justin, ProfGallows or Gandalf. One of them could be hiding a Mafia role such as Godfather. It's safe to assume the Godfather will be a player known for a stronger gameplay. Even though 2/3 I mentioned aren't contributing as much as they used to, I still consider them players who could be hiding that Godfather role. I named Gandalf because we never really see him play past Night One. He plays very safely, accusing the same target as the majority. His arguments are well thought out though. He's a wildcard in my opinion.
Obviously none of them could be Mafia either. :/
We always suspect the stronger players privately and accuse the newbies / weaker ones publicly.
Obviously none of them could be Mafia either. :/
We always suspect the stronger players privately and accuse the newbies / weaker ones publicly.
Short post as I wound up busy surprisingly today, but I do agree with Kayla. I've got suspicions of Justin, if only because of a gut feeling and because his tell in the IRC variant of Mafia is simply staying quiet, something most of you saw in Game II. It's entirely possible he's just disinterested but by now I would have expected something from him as he was townie in Game 1. As anti-town as it may sound, I'd rather lynch a lurker and hope to strike mafia than I would lynch someone who's at least responding and seemingly trying. Plus we can leave BBG to a detective/vig and figure out where to go from there. I would be 100% confident in lynching him today had Trundle now called him out during Night 1, that was just asking scum to frame.
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Wouldn't be against it.
Since it's pretty early and already the mafia seem like they know what they are doing I don't have any footholds into anything I've seen. But just as you said that any three of us could be mafia for our strong gameplay, we could just as likely all be town.
Lynching us would then put a huge hole into usefulness for the town later on when things have taken off and there is more to get pulled into the game. Unlike right now when it's all guessing.
I, as well, am considering to change my vote. We could just let a Vig deal with BBG. Hey, in the best case scenario, we can get two scum in one day-night cycle. Not saying for sure BBG or the three players are scum, though. I'll keep my vote for now, and see what others have to say to this. Chances are, I'll change my vote to Jubs, not because of I'm bandwagoning, but posting useless things that don't help. As Tom said, wouldn't we have expected a pro-town post by now? We only have 4 hours left to discuss.
