Mafia TBT Mafia: Renaissance - Game Thread [ENDGAME - Town Wins]

[glow]

i'm sorry guys i'm normally scheduled to be in class for 9 hours on Tuesdays + i woke up to a call from work and worked all this morning so this is actually the worst possible day in my schedule for a vote to happen ;____;

i'm reading now

 

[Damniel]

ok people are bringing good points on jacob and his lack of committing to an actual scum read before the last hour is setting off an alarm

im starting to believe jacob is more scum over trundle (as i don't think they could be on a team together) but trundle has also disapeared and his apparent cluelessness before still does not sit right with me. Ill probs still keep my trundle vote but if he actually ends up being town is def jacob. if he's scum jacob is probably not maf

 

[PandaDarling]

why not jacob

tbh Crys.... I never know how to read Jacob... I don't think I've ever suspected him in a game and thats probably bad, for some reason he just slips under my radar.

 

[Antonio]

Actually, I'm just going to say it all.

Yes I claimed PR, I tried to make it obvious as ****? Why? I wonder why. Anyone can read that because there's a dumbfk who keeps bringing it up. Antonio you should know damn well that I'm capable of doing whatever I want and having it work, considering I did it last game. And if you're town you should be more than capable of understanding that there could be a hundred reasons I would do this besides being mafia.

Except one thing.

I NEVER CLAIMED COP.

So you're misrepresenting my post and pushing me for information that benefits you in no way whatsoever.

Next point.

Every interaction you've had with my post makes it seem like rather than actively trying to read it, you're just trying to force a lynch on Trundle.

You're playing like garbage dude.

Oh shoot, I swore you claimed cop earlier before you went on about the lynch. Who mentioned cop then? I can't search 3 letter words @Justin

And I've read your posts but I didn't agree with it. I stated my reasons why a lynch was better than a no lynch.

 

[Jacob]

going with my first vote with evan, I don't wanna get modkilled for not voting and nothing about these last 2 hours has really been helpful for me personally. Im just hoping people vote for who they think is maf and doesnt get pressured into a wagon. if you follow a wagon your vote will be less helpful and insightful than the No Lynch option

 

[N e s s]

For future phases going forward, would it help or worsen people's schedules to push it back by 2 hours? I'm starting to feel as though this current time I have set is either too early or too late for most people depending on time zone + work. We can discuss it later as I don't want it to clog the thread, but send me a PM if you think it would help you.

As in, change it from 8:00 PM CST to 10:00 PM CST.

 

[mogyay]

idk how he could slip under anyone's radar in this game lol, most of the convo has been him or trundle

i don't feel confident in either trundle or jacob sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, i think if i had to pick i'd pick jacob (i think panda is p sus, sry)

 

[shawo]

I really don't like how Geoni and Harbour have responded to my post about NLing.

I feel like the response was very "I don't want to read it, so I'm just going to not"

Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's entirely correct?
A lot of what Geonis posts feel very awkward, so I kinda understand why he's a top scumread here. Especially since he reread from the start until now, and didn't respond to any of the **** that was happening, and then ended with a "why are you talking about numbers in the last hour."

And harbours reads don't really make sense. Clearly they saw me claim PR, so why woul dthey call me a scumlean when that was the only thing of value I've said.

Punchy formats what they've said really badly but they've said a few things I've really liked.

f11 feels the towniest here IMO. I've said this before but the way they've interacted in my posts makes me feel like they're the only one who really cares in a genuine way.

damniel also interacted with my posts well, and although I really, really, really hate how many reads he has, I don't think it's worth lynching someone who 'cares' (which might be a mistake)

I actually think panda is town here but I can't word it too well so I'll just keep it as that.

 

[Damniel]

going with my first vote with evan, I don't wanna get modkilled for not voting and nothing about these last 2 hours has really been helpful for me personally. Im just hoping people vote for who they think is maf and doesnt get pressured into a wagon. if you follow a wagon your vote will be less helpful and insightful than the No Lynch option

where was that ISO. why are you voting for a wagon that is not happening and doing nothing to convince us to vote evan

 

[amazonevan19]

oof guys I'm sorry I had work all day and I forgot about the voting, and I have what 20+ pages to read? agghhh

Who should I vote and why

 

[f11]

p

going with my first vote with evan, I don't wanna get modkilled for not voting and nothing about these last 2 hours has really been helpful for me personally. Im just hoping people vote for who they think is maf and doesnt get pressured into a wagon. if you follow a wagon your vote will be less helpful and insightful than the No Lynch option

WhTs your opinion on panda and tae and harbor

 

[Antonio]

ok people are bringing good points on jacob and his lack of committing to an actual scum read before the last hour is setting off an alarm

im starting to believe jacob is more scum over trundle (as i don't think they could be on a team together) but trundle has also disapeared and his apparent cluelessness before still does not sit right with me. Ill probs still keep my trundle vote but if he actually ends up being town is def jacob. if he's scum jacob is probably not maf

Someone earlier mentioned that mafia would most likely bandwagon so wouldn't Jacob hesitant behavior seem more townie?

 

[PandaDarling]

idk how he could slip under anyone's radar in this game lol, most of the convo has been him or trundle

i don't feel confident in either trundle or jacob sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, i think if i had to pick i'd pick jacob (i think panda is p sus, sry)

really ? I feel like I just keep seeing Daniel and Trundle

 

[shawo]

ok people are bringing good points on jacob and his lack of committing to an actual scum read before the last hour is setting off an alarm

im starting to believe jacob is more scum over trundle (as i don't think they could be on a team together) but trundle has also disapeared and his apparent cluelessness before still does not sit right with me. Ill probs still keep my trundle vote but if he actually ends up being town is def jacob. if he's scum jacob is probably not maf

no one should have a strong read at this point in the game.

 

[Geoni]

So to clarify one more thing. A lot of actions take place at night. You guys will probably keep telling me "You're wasting a lynch" (Which isn't true.)

Even a pseudo-investigative role will be 10x more useful in this situation. Right now we're lynching someone with 20 people who haven't even interacted enough, and expect anything besides a town lynch d1. Not to mention the chance to fish out a potential PR.

EVEN if we assume the worst case, that the mafia has really strong night actions, we still have so much to gain from even a potential death flip at night.

Think over what I said. I'll try to tone it back since ya'll don't really seem like mechanical players.

I would like more people to interact with me, mostly because I believe I can convince. Anyone. Because I'm right.

I don't think anyones read should be as strong as they make it out to be.

Whoever said "we get interactions from the lynch" is talking about the same idea.

"We need to lynch someone to get interactions so I can read the game."

There's other BETTER ways to get interactions. Especially since you can do it through a NIGHT kill, instead of a lynch.

Not NLing but I agree on not settling on an informational lynch for the sake of information if that person seems like they're town which is why I am anti Trundle lynch here.

thats a good no lynch case

Don't like this stance from you since you're a top wagon.

 

[shawo]

Oh yeah, I also interacted with
locket, who interacted with me but in a way that felt really shallow. They're probably the person closest to null that I've read in the game.

and mogyay, who I wouldn't lynch today. They aren't someone I'm willing to just call outright town, but I really? like their posts?

So the 5~ish people I wouldn't lynch today are
panda/mog/f11/damniel/trundle

The rest are fair game I guess.

I'm just not very comfortable on the flip to Jacob either.

 

[f11]

Someone earlier mentioned that mafia would most likely bandwagon so wouldn't Jacob hesitant behavior seem more townie?

Hes acting noncommital. not bandwagoning is okay but if he really suspects Evan he’s not doing it to convince others it’s seems like it’s just so he can have one person to call scum and once again, absolve himself from being lynched.

 

[Damniel]

no one should have a strong read at this point in the game.

after my whole conversation with trundle for the past couple of days i do

 

[Harbour]

And harbours reads don't really make sense. Clearly they saw me claim PR, so why woul dthey call me a scumlean when that was the only thing of value I've said.

that's my point. you've barely mentioned anything of value besides the whole no lynch proposal (which i don't find bad, i just don't advocate for it). since the start of the game your reactions and content have been quite sus to me and i have mentioned this in my previous posts. as well as that, i don't scumlean you, you're slight sus for me but i'm voting punchy.

 

[Jacob]

sorry daniel im kinda tired of repeating myself but ill just say im voting with my gut

p
WhTs your opinion on panda and tae and harbor

I had red flags about tae and harbour and already described them, I initially said they were in my lynch pool but nothing ai came from them so far for me, for panda idk i kinda feel toward her the same way she feels toward me. I haven't been seeing that much that was striking