I think we can all agree on Tardis being scum. So I am going to focus my attention on someone I believe that is a bigger threat: Tom.
Let's start from the top.
?\_(ツ)_/? If we lynch blue we lynch blue, their fault for bein dumb. Ain't that right Nessy poo
That unintentional foreshadowing though. This is the first post that I can officially file under "Things A Townie Would Never say". It's something small enough to glance over but it actually says a lot about Tom's obvious indifference since the game started.
You know we say this now, but Panda is going to hold it against you the entire game and clog the thread up.
This is to Crys, in response to Crys saying it wouldn't be that bad if we lynched a Blue role when Panda asked why Crys would not care who was lynched. It was an entirely valid question, at a time where Crys' alignment was quite unclear, and the fact that he tried to belittle Panda for it was a really poor move to make.
Most likely, possible even three given the number of players. 4-5 mafia, possibly a third party?
Regardless, we've gotta make days work somehow because the majority of us can only talk during the day. Not going to rule out any mason or jailer type roles honestly. Day one will be slow and stagnant. Always is.
The second paragraph is SO AWKWARD AND FORCED JESUS that is teeth-grindingly painful. "The majority of us can only talk during the day." Dang bro thanks for that strong input, anyone know how many games Tom has played? Because I would expect a grade A useless filler line like that from someone that's playing their first ever game as scum. And by the way, Day one never HAS to be slow and stagnant, so don't let anyone tell you that. It's obviously the least likely day town will lynch scum, but all in all it can be one of the most telling days for scum.
Basic Textbook: Day one scum either feels like they don't have to try hard so they coast and filler, OR they feel like if there's enough weak town they can force town into a mislynch. Ness fell into category B, and Tom falls into category A.
Wow now if I'm really blue you put the noose around my neck, are you willing to live with that regret?
Also third party don't always have killing power, sometimes they are peaceful and can win with either team.
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Also no talking at night was applied to this game and specifically this game. Should mention it in the OP.
Sentence 1: Tom will probably say this is a joke, and I agree: it's so hypocritical it's comical. But I do not interpret this as an actual joke. Joke or not, it's just more useless filler and now it's contradicting filler.
Christ I stop reading for a while to focus on work and gather my thoughts on something important and you guys **** out thirty something pages. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on my skim here:
- Crys claims Fool/Survivor, being Tarot Card the Fool.
- People want to lynch Crys but not because **** third parties they don't get to win
- Dolby makes a case against Inkling who I feel is probs town, as I don't agree with all of Dolby's points
- Heyden doesn't wanna read and is probs dumb scum
First line: "Ugh there's so much to read so I'm just skimming"
Fourth line: AYYY LOOK GUYS ITS TOMS FIRST READ ALL GAME. WOW MUCH ANALYZE. That's the laziest pocket I have ever seen in my entire life. This is just setting up so that if inkling was lynched and flipped town he could easily go after Dolby for being wrong.
Fifth line: Toms second read. I have no idea why he said this honestly. The only explanation is that he's throwing **** against the wall to see what sticks. This is in response to Heyden asking why everyone is bandwagoning on inkling. Which is quite ironic for someone that is skimming themselves. I do not think skimming is scummy, as I did it myself, since this thread was filled with one liner posts that were mostly useless.
But these are the first reads Tom makes and they both are bad. Not necessarily because they are wrong, but because if you BELIEVE inkling is town why don't you make a defense for them? Considering they obviously could not adequately do so themselves. If you BELIEVE Heyden is scum why don't you make a case for them? Considering someone you believe is town is up for lynch. Another post that is easily filed into "Things Town Would Never Say".
Given that really I've only skimmed the thread and have little desire to re-read it right now, nobody strikes me as obvious mafia. Pretty much everyone who was under consideration all made emotional appeals and will continue to do so, so Inkling/Cory wouldn't be a good idea. Crys is a Fool, so ultimately if we lynch Crys they exit the game and we ultimately lose a number overall for town. Dolby strikes me as town thus far, Jacob reminds me of his play from whatever the last mafia game it was I played and he posted a fake role PM.
Ultimately I have no good suggestion, which is why I've merely placeholdered.
There's bound to be at least a single dirty player in that list yes, so looking at that is a good idea.
I don't truly feel like I know enough to confidently vote in somebody. A lot of null reads, town leans and weak scum reads. I'm not focused enough to re-read the thread before end of night, so yes I will be useless for now.
Typical fence-sitting scum. #justmafiathings
No mention of Heyden when directly asked who should be up for lynch. Yes it is hard for people to stand out Day one. I don't let people use that excuse though, it is only for noobietown or bad scum. If you believe someone is scum then SAY SO. Vote them, put pressure, and their REACTION will be what tells you the most. I honestly like to lynch anyone that admits to being useless, because they openly admit to being a liability to town. Typical scum will fencesit, in case you didn't know, because it is optimal for them to push for a last minute decision because it looks less scummy than pushing a mislynch on someone all day. Hey look:
@crys I have no scum reads right now, I haven't read back. Hold on a minute.
In other words i'm having weird feelings about inkling after thinking through school today.
Well ****, night went poorly.
Filler
Filler filler
I am okay with a Ness lynch, however if it's alright I'd rather keep my lone vote on Tardis. Not that I don't wanna be a team player here, but like what's the point of continuing to dogpile? I don't think I've seen Justice state they'd end the day earlier if Ness got all the votes, so there isn't any major harm here.
"I have no case and I still haven't been useful all game but I want to setup my Day Three noobscum bus so that I don't get lynched"
Okay it's gotta be Dolby leading the charge, this has blue sniping written all over it and that's his jam as mafia. Not only was his "not defense of Ness" pathetic, but he's been incredibly silent this game only chirping up when it's been opportune to him and his interests. Yes I am aware of Ness purposely calling out Dolby, but at the same time he was probably hoping we'd ignore it.
HERE IT IS. THE MOMENT WE HAVE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR. TOMS FIRST CASE GUYS. If you want to even call it that. Dolby actually has not been silent at all, he has said a lot more content-wise than Tom. All Tom did previously is fence sit and slightly imply that maybe someone is town or possibly someone is mafia.
That's funny because I'm a lowly Page of Swords? Ultimately sure that means I could be a goon, but I'm not.
Extremely awkward way to claim: dismissing by saying "That's funny lel I'm lowly townie". And the second line- the ****?
No I'm vanilla town you ass
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You posted scumreads this game?
Oh Tom and you did? Dolby actually did by the way, they made the case on inkling.
How is me not voting Ness to 100% scummy exactly? I never disagreed with the lynch and the case was flawless in my opinion. Honest to god I'm vanilla town, unless my role is hidden from me. Hell I could be an unaware town drunk that had the misfortune of visiting Heyden last night or Heyden visited me?
"The case was flawless, that's why I voted against it." and more "I'm town I'm town I'm town". But that reach at the end, wow you are getting desperate. You are better off saying that Crys is lying than saying you think you are a Drunk role, which is a pretty rarely seen role (at least on the forums I have played on).
OKEYDOKEY NOW WERE GETTING TO THE GOOD PART, buckle in kiddos. This is Toms largest post so far. And what is it? A case defending himself. I am going to number things for readability's sake.
I'm also deleting things from his post because the post is long and mine is already a novel.
1. Haven't contributed much because I've been busy and literally day one set the tone for how this game was going to go up until Xine showed up. Honestly as nice as winning would be, I didn't really care because everyone was memeing and bickering over the tiniest ****. Crys was legitimately the only one trying to start conversations and nobody liked that.
2. I would hardly call not voting Ness being "neutral" in the affair. Honestly until today besides Xine hardly any of you were bothering to look at post filters, so I hoped that if I died during night that at the very least you bums would look at votes and remember "Oh yeah, Tom mentioned Tardis! Let's see what that was about!" I legitimately have no interest in the game right now nor I do I have a major interest in anything right now. You know what I wanna do? Sleep. What I've been doing the past couple days? Sleep. Wake up, wash up, still wanna sleep. Legitimately in this depressive funk where I wanna do is sleep. So yeah, not trying to play cool because depression blows kids.
1. So basically you:
?Had 0 opinions throughout the course of Day One
?But do not accept any of the responsibility for the mislynch of Cory?
2. ATE. Not trying to be a heartless ***** here, but I know ATE when I see it. If you are actually town and this is genuine, I'm sorry and you have my permission to call me a heartless *****. Side note, sometimes the only way to relieve depression is distracting yourself, and putting yourself to work- whether it be physical or in this case mental, personally I use playing mafia in this way occasionally.
1. I KNOW TARDIS IS A NEW PLAYER, YOU KNOW IT, THE WORLD KNOWS IT. YOU DIDN'T NEED A SECOND FRIGGIN BULLETPOINT
Bussing is the act of making someone look bad and they are bad, so that when they die you look good or viceversa.
IE: Ness wanted to buss Dolby, so when Ness flips Dolby looks good!
2. If I really wanted to "take the heat off Ness" as you seem to believe, wouldn't I have tried a little harder? "Like hey guys, Crys was really pulling out of their ass here but I legitimately think I've found scum and that's Tardis. Can we please pull majority off Ness and vote Tardis instead? Then we can let Ness die as Jack/Crys die as Jester/Mafia!" There was no defense of Ness.
1. This is my reasoning for my thinking below
2. Not saying you really defended Ness, but your behavior was weird about voting Tardis. You should have just jumped on the bandwagon and then made your case for Tardis on Day 3. Also, there was no defense of Ness at that point, and I would have scumread anyone that defended him easily- with the strange exception of Dolby, but I have pretty good reasoning to think that Dolby is town due to how hard Ness was trying to make it seem like Dolby was his teammate torwards the end. Has Ness be more subtle, I would doubt Dolby a lot more. But he pushed it too far.
1. Yeah, your scum buddy ****ed up Tom. GG.
NOBODY EVEN CAUGHT IT UNTIL LATER. so I will come back to this I promise. I'm just going in order of the thread.
3. You and all the others skimmed Tardis' claim good job. I feel like I'm in capable town hands right now because instead of reading to comprehend, we're reading to skim.
Okay class, what did we learn about sparknotes?
1. I mean aside from not being scum, I gotta agree I can work some silver tongued miracles but I'd have to sell half a body to maybe help the sinking call box that is the Tardis.
2. Or ya know it's actually a weak case against a weak player?
Someone would have caught Tardis' slip eventually. Personally I was too distracted and determined by what was going on with Ness to actually notice what they said at all.
This bolded part, the way you voted Tardis yesterday, my number 1. in the previous part above, along with nearly everything you have said all game make me pretty confident that you are bussing Tardis and doing so to make yourself look town considering that Tardis is noob scum and slipped quite early. Bussing Tardis would actually be the most optimal decision at this point, but the way you did it along with the rest of your behavior all game was not executed well enough to pull this off. Honestly, I haven't been able to look at a single one of your posts and say "Ye this makes sense from a town perspective" because simply almost all of them do not.
Had you actually contributed to the thread prior to the Tardis events, had you not pretended like you had no part in the Cory lynch, and acted indifferent towards everything until your forced af "Oh we're ****ed gg mafia" reactions, your bus on Tardis might have actually worked here.
3. You have openly admitted to skimming most of the game, and now you are criticizing the rest of town for missing a post that was quite easy to look over. This is actually kind of funny, because you are likely the most guilty of this here
I am fine with a Tardis lynch, but I would much prefer that we lynch Tom today.