Mafia TBT Switch Mafia (Long Days and Nights)- ENDGAME @Page 120- Town Wins

[cornimer]

Also ftr I lightly townlean Damniel right now. I'm reading the reaction testing and one-liners as coming from a townie place, I feel like most people as scum would be more cautious? His tone seems very honest to me. He's also done some decent questioning

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I really don't know what to make of Antonio vs Punchy. Antonio seems to be putting in a lot of effort (re: his giant case that read like a TV show, and now wanting to read over a game to see Farobi's meta even though Farobi's only posted like twice), I need to look familiarize myself with his meta

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And here Antonio: https://www.belltreeforums.com/show...urder-of-Woodpines-Oregon-Game-Thread-Endgame

 

[Antonio]

Also ftr I lightly townlean Damniel right now. I'm reading the reaction testing and one-liners as coming from a townie place, I feel like most people as scum would be more cautious? His tone seems very honest to me. He's also done some decent questioning

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I really don't know what to make of Antonio vs Punchy. Antonio seems to be putting in a lot of effort (re: his giant case that read like a TV show, and now wanting to read over a game to see Farobi's meta even though Farobi's only posted like twice), I need to look familiarize myself with his meta

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And here Antonio: https://www.belltreeforums.com/show...urder-of-Woodpines-Oregon-Game-Thread-Endgame

I don't have a set meta, I don't choose to act a certain alignment. I go into each game, not trying to be like the last. I do my own things, rly. Anyways, thanks for the link.

 

[Damniel]

I don't have a set meta, I don't choose to act a certain alignment. I go into each game, not trying to be like the last. I do my own things, rly. Anyways, thanks for the link.

This is a little silly. Everyone has some kind of meta

 

[Antonio]

This is a little silly. Everyone has some kind of meta

I probably do but I don't know it. xD

 

[Damniel]

Were in a pretty weird stage rn as it’s not really night anymore but OP hasn’t ended it yet. I’m not surprised with the low activity so far, so I’ll let things pass. I’m pretty certain DD is just going to be replaced so I don’t see a point in sussing/further talking about them.

I’m having townleans on Dad. He seems to call out anything he sees and the fact that he is sometimes mistaken in his comments indicates he isn’t being that cautious, like scum would

 

[cornimer]

Were in a pretty weird stage rn as it’s not really night anymore but OP hasn’t ended it yet. I’m not surprised with the low activity so far, so I’ll let things pass. I’m pretty certain DD is just going to be replaced so I don’t see a point in sussing/further talking about them.

I thought night ended tomorrow?

 

[Antonio]

By that, I mean that I might do something the same per alignment but I don't knowingly do it.

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that post didn't merge

 

[Geoni]

hi I'm sorry I literally passed out and went to the hospital for two hours because of my sickness

@dad I think Vanessa, Damniel, and unravel are possible teammates for Antonio, for posting very little about him. Farobi's rqs seemed gut town and antonio's seemed gut scummy, and I'm almost 100% positive Antonio is scum.

What's your read on what little Evan has posted?

 

[Damniel]

I thought night ended tomorrow?

That would technically be Thursday 12AM EST then

 

[cornimer]

That would technically be Thursday 12AM EST then

Ohhh it ends in like 2 hours ok

 

[Geoni]

I hate making analysis on day/night one too but dang I get bad vibes from this post. He's literally saying nothing, and this:

sounds kinda forced imo

Also I think someone (unravel?) asked earlier what Farobi does as scum. iirc correctly last time he was scum was Woodpines Mafia, and he slowly started to become more inactive throughout the game (need to double check that) and also his posts got kinda contradictory

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No I'm not really down for a potential mislynch just to prove a point tbh

I'm trying to find contradiction and can't. Also that's a meta read that isn't exactly easy to apply in the moment.

Also what is your read on Antonio? Talking about what you are and aren't willing to mislynch already seems a bit unnecessary imo.

 

[cornimer]

I'm trying to find contradiction and can't. Also that's a meta read that isn't exactly easy to apply in the moment.

Also what is your read on Antonio? Talking about what you are and aren't willing to mislynch already seems a bit unnecessary imo.

Ok I looked back a bit myself and it's less contradiction and more just straight-up scummy things. For example:

I've already expressed many times before why possibility that it's either you or punchy and right now you're someone as equally as viable for a lynch today. I threw in some other inactives too because there's gotta be more than you two that seem scummy to me, but so far i would prefer an inactive to get the lynch because punchy at least talks in the thread more actively than the others who play catch up and can hide behind their excuses

He said that he "threw inactives into his lynch pool because there had to be more people that seemed scummy". I don' t think I need to explain what's wrong with that.

That being said, I know that's not relevant to this game where he's barely posted, which is why I didn't want to find quotes for Antonio. I was just saying for future reference that that is what I remember his meta to be.

I haven't formed my read on Antonio yet. I just thought him saying "let's all lynch me JUST to prove punchy wrong" isn't a good idea in the event that he is town.

 

[Geoni]

Waiiit night is ending in 40 minutes and not 25 hours asdfgh

Quick reads and suggested lynch pool incoming.

 

[Geoni]

Damniel: This is a turn-around from my very first impression, which I found scummy, but I like that he keeps asking the same questions I do and staying active as he tries to get more from people to discern where they are coming from and I think he's thinking about the game in a similar way to myself.
Jacob: A lot of this is tone but he falls in the category that Damniel does for me except less active during the last day or so of N0.
Unravel: Kind of just poking at things as they pop in here and then and there's something about the way they reapproach and comment on the most prevelant discussion such as Punchy v Antonio that at least feels unteamed.
Punchy: I think I like him a little more than Antonio in their argument even if what he is saying isn't satisfyingly explained it shows a cautionlessness that I see more from town than scum. Both are tunneling each other btw but Punchy started it. I was scum with him recently and he's from what I can tell a team player when scum and this attack on Antonio seems a push all his own. A lot of people are not liking the nullread moment and if I'm reading them correctly find Antonio kinda sus for it but Punchy's original reasons to start suspecting Antonio we're unique, super early, and feels uncoordinated.
Antonio: First of all I don't like the sense of appeal to me I got when he actually dug up his rqs quotes because it felt like forced transparency on a subject I think he got over defensive about but the case feels like a blown up counter tunnel. Given how many people criticized the nullread moment it feels like it's not something any if my highest suspects would approve of. I kinda read this as town v town.
Vanessa: Has picked up speed and reads at the end of nights but it felt like she just let the fight play out - I'd feel better about that being a scumtell if we started on day and she just wasn't voting when it was going on but yeah. I don't agree with some of her reads either.
Farobi: Isn't providing much, made excuses for not having to, and that gives me the vibe that he doesn't feel bothered to solve yet. I do remember him using excuses in that scumgame he was in with Tina as scum iirc.
Dolby: is not doing enough solving for his usual town self. Given how many people listed him as a fearkill choice I would be playing tonight like it could be my last but I'm not getting that from him. He popped in when Antonio looked his worst.
Evan: Super gut level here and I'm unsure if he's teamed with Dolby due to his last post but as I've explained (I think?) before I don't like his last post. I'm used to seeing him more active as town and iirc more willing to go back and forth with people. His last post just comes off as confusion-inducing and ghosting after a post like that, as a fight that could very well be tvt, is a bad sign for me.

Delphine is a complete null and should be replaced.

My three folks at the bottom here should be considered for the gallows tomorrow. The entire bottom five I'm thinking the team + sk is in, maybe Delphine but pure null right there.

If I missed someone they were forgettable and should also be considered.

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Oof I should have spaced that my bad

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Farobi I saw you down there, was it you or someone else who was teamed with Tina in one game in the past?

 

[Jacob]

Ok because night 0 is ending soon I think, I want to drop a little something in case I get killed and also because I feel like I haven't really contributed that much comparatively lol

Waiiit night is ending in 40 minutes and not 25 hours asdfgh

Quick reads and suggested lynch pool incoming.

IMO this has been the only post that I've seen that (at least to me) appears really town-telling

9. Who would you fearkill N1? Dad or dubiousdelphine; Dad because he's dangerous and dubiousdelphine because idk anything about them

I think punchy v Antonio is town vs town and I can definitely see either Damniel or Dad taking advantage of it. Damniel because he can make Punchy look bad, and Dad making Damniel look bad for trying to make Punchy look bad.

And this is the only other red flag that I've seen (I went back to read Evan's posts cuz he didn't have a lot so I thought maybe I could find something scummy )

In the 2 posts Evan has had there's a certain fixation on Dad. Calling him "dangerous" stands out to me because even if he is a good player, dangerous feels completely different. I too think Dad and Dolby are good players but I would fear kill them out of acknowledgement of their play style and not because I find either one dangerous. idk if that makes sense (IM RUNNING OUT OF TIME TO TYPE LOL) but theres a weird connotation that makes me think Evan is a little sus

TOTALLY SUBJECT TO CHANGE THATS JUST MY DAY 1 THOUGHTS

RECAP:
Dad - townlean
Evan - scum lean
unravel - scum lean

 

[Geoni]

Also not seeing Vanessa and Farobi teamed, not seeing Dolby and Antonio teamed

Glgl

 

[Dolby]

Are you really trying to discredit my post because the outcome isn't scum? The Scum Files TM isn't about why someone is scum but is to go over some points on how they could be scum. Did you actually read my post or skim through it like you did with farobi reqs (which your gut says he is clear)? As Town, why are you skimming through everything instead of actually reading word through word?

I'm on mobile and have a doctor's appointment so yeah.

@Dolby, what seemed unneeded from my review on Punchy?

Pretty much everything I didn't say I felt was good process tbh. If it was to go over the points I really feel that a lot of the post was kinda a failure, especially with dat null read at the end

Maybe it doesn't matter if night ends, maybe all that matters is the journey and the friends we've made along the way?

Who makes friends playing mafia, am I right

I skimmed through that post because I was on mobile

but my response is still valid

your scum flies TM is an excuse to not have any opinion on me

Probably best emcompasses why I dislike Scum Files. Punchy town btw

Dad and Dolby working together but I'm scared to townlean both of them if theyre both town then its possible either Farobi, Damniel and Jacob are scum

I'm sorry what

Also gonna agree with Damniel, Farobi ain't spamming

How about this, everyone votes me off on day 1. I can enjoy smash bros instead of playing this game and prove to all of you that I'm not scum. Then once I don't flip, you can eat that hat as you promise. Once i'm lynched and it shows up Town, you can realize that your gut isn't legit facts.

I'll be happy to take the fall to prove a point because I'm getting annoyed between this war and I am craving for that picture of you with a hat in your month. If everyone is down for this, I sure am!

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Also, hope you feel better punchy! <3

High key SK lean for this. This shows a real feeling of hopelessness and wanting to move on with their life that I've felt on multiple occassions (read BOTW and my surv claim in Generic). Moreover, assumes Punchy is town casually way to easily for someone who's been lightly going after him as a form of defense.

Also, I feel that unless the team is Antonio/Dad (which I can see), there'd be much more of a push against Antonio sus right now, because Punchy has just been going to town on Antonio

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Also, I started my new job right about a day after the game began, so 10-7 pst=likely inactive

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Evan: Super gut level here and I'm unsure if he's teamed with Dolby due to his last post but as I've explained (I think?) before I don't like his last post. I'm used to seeing him more active as town and iirc more willing to go back and forth with people. His last post just comes off as confusion-inducing and ghosting after a post like that, as a fight that could very well be tvt, is a bad sign for me.

I think punchy v Antonio is town vs town and I can definitely see either Damniel or Dad taking advantage of it. Damniel because he can make Punchy look bad, and Dad making Damniel look bad for trying to make Punchy look bad.

And how exactly does this make us unlikely teammed given my relative inactivity at this point?

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I actually like Dad's placements bar Antonio being that high(and myself ofc)

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*at that point

 

[Geoni]

... I take it night doesn't end until another 20 or so hours then.

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Pretty much everything I didn't say I felt was good process tbh. If it was to go over the points I really feel that a lot of the post was kinda a failure, especially with dat null read at the end



Who makes friends playing mafia, am I right



Probably best emcompasses why I dislike Scum Files. Punchy town btw


I'm sorry what

Also gonna agree with Damniel, Farobi ain't spamming



High key SK lean for this. This shows a real feeling of hopelessness and wanting to move on with their life that I've felt on multiple occassions (read BOTW and my surv claim in Generic). Moreover, assumes Punchy is town casually way to easily for someone who's been lightly going after him as a form of defense.

Also, I feel that unless the team is Antonio/Dad (which I can see), there'd be much more of a push against Antonio sus right now, because Punchy has just been going to town on Antonio

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Also, I started my new job right about a day after the game began, so 10-7 pst=likely inactive

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And how exactly does this make us unlikely teammed given my relative inactivity at this point?

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I actually like Dad's placements bar Antonio being that high(and myself ofc)

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*at that point

I can at least agree that if Antonio -is- scum that he's probably SK, a lot of people are critical of him atm and I argue that kind of case is insane for a teammate like Dolby to approve of most importantly.

Now that I think about it I am ruling out that partnership potential too easily it's just that I don't see you being fine with letting Evan disappear on such a post for the rest of a very long night with surprising amount of content.

IDK if my expectations of you are too high or it's just your new job but the Dolby I know does plenty of PoEing as town with all that's available, and it's much more than these micro games lately.

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Also if you can see me as teamed with Antonio despite knowing how controlling and cautioned I can be as scum towards my teammates then why wouldn't I be coaching Antonio here and in what world do I ever think a case post like the one he made should ever be put out there?

 

[Damniel]

There’s a view things I want to comment on, but I’m in the process of packing and moving out of my dorm now so it’ll be a while

I’m very confused of when night was supposed to end. Hopefully Bianca is able to get online soon as we’ve been in an almost twilight for over 24 hours at this point

 

[PunchyTheCat]

I don't have a set meta, I don't choose to act a certain alignment. I go into each game, not trying to be like the last. I do my own things, rly. Anyways, thanks for the link.

Now you?re saying using meta is invalid for you? No, that?s not true