The ACNH Rant Thread

[VanitasFan26]

Right? It's a tropical island game!!! Where's all the fruits that existed prior dammit

Still really bothers me that they never brought back most of the fruit that was in New Leaf.

 

[LateGamer]

Right? It's a tropical island game!!! Where's all the fruits that existed prior dammit

I am totally new to the whole AC series. The first thing I thought of when I started playing in May….”Where the heck are the bananas, pineapples, mangoes, etc. lol! Even if Nintendo wanted to limit number of fruits it would have been nice to have the more tropical fruits instead of the generic apples!

 

[oath2order]

And somehow, even worse, is the Pocket Camp-exclusive fruit, Grapes.

Like how dare they

 

[Alolan_Apples]

And somehow, even worse, is the Pocket Camp-exclusive fruit, Grapes.

Like how dare they

Yet, they have the grapes backpack.

 

[VanitasFan26]

And somehow, even worse, is the Pocket Camp-exclusive fruit, Grapes.

Like how dare they

(sigh) everytime I see Pocket Camp getting more content it just makes more mad that ACNH continues to be left in the dust.

 

[Alolan_Apples]

I’ll have to admit. ACNH’s activity plummeted faster than ACNL, and the biggest culprit in my opinion (other than how the game was released) was the excessive nerfing of money making. Nintendo intended to do this to keep people playing longer, but instead, it has the opposite effect.

The breaking tools, having mystery islands not being summer year-long, regular beetles spawning on palm trees, Stringfish being limited to cliffs with a prior condition, much lower spawn rates for more expensive fish and insects, and further updates to making money harder were exactly why it was difficult to make money faster than it did before.

They could’ve gone back to ACNL’s formula on rare fish and bugs and Tortimer island, but still have breaking tools and Nook Miles tickets. If they keep that in mind next game, they would yield a better sequel than ACNL and ACNH.

 

[VanitasFan26]

I’ll have to admit. ACNH’s activity plummeted faster than ACNL, and the biggest culprit in my opinion (other than how the game was released) was the excessive nerfing of money making. Nintendo intended to do this to keep people playing longer, but instead, it has the opposite effect.

The breaking tools, having mystery islands not being summer year-long, regular beetles spawning on palm trees, Stringfish being limited to cliffs with a prior condition, much lower spawn rates for more expensive fish and insects, and further updates to making money harder were exactly why it was difficult to make money faster than it did before.

They could’ve gone back to ACNL’s formula on rare fish and bugs and Tortimer island, but still have breaking tools and Nook Miles tickets. If they keep that in mind next game, they would yield a better sequel than ACNL and ACNH.

THIS! I've been saying that for the longest time and I've gotten so much flack for it.

 

[Alolan_Apples]

THIS! I've been saying that for the longest time and I've gotten so much flack for it.

Yes. While a game too easy isn’t good, a game too hard would drive people away.

In ACNL, even if it weren’t for the duping or powersaving that plagued the virtual economy, you could easily rack up a lot of Bells by beetle farming and shark harvesting. If you cut down those four trees in the middle of the island and go at night, only six beetles could spawn, five of them being 8,000 Bells or more. As for sharks, the only nuisance was the ocean sunfish, and that still sold more than a red snapper (one of the good fish back in the GameCube version). Just one trip can bring in at least 384,000 Bells. But not in ACNH. Even if you can do that, that’s a 1 in 100 chance, not a 1 in 1 chance.

 

[-Blue-]

The only way to really make money easily in NH is the turnip market. They knew what they were doing. They wanted people to buy their online sub. So much of the game was locked behind the NSO. This is the reason they nerfed so much of the ways you could make bells. They even nerfed the interest rate on the bank/bells in a patch where the monthly interest is now useless.

 

[VanitasFan26]

The only way to really make money easily in NH is the turnip market. They knew what they were doing. They wanted people to buy their online sub. So much of the game was locked behind the NSO. This is the reason they nerfed so much of the ways you could make bells. They even nerfed the interest rate on the bank/bells in a patch where the monthly interest is now useless.

Which is why I made the decesion to grow so much blue roses on my island and when I pluck them, I sell them for a lot of bells. Its been working greatly for me. I really don't do turnips because of how annoying it is to get a good turnip price when it keeps going down to a worse price.

 

[Alolan_Apples]

The only way to really make money easily in NH is the turnip market. They knew what they were doing. They wanted people to buy their online sub. So much of the game was locked behind the NSO. This is the reason they nerfed so much of the ways you could make bells. They even nerfed the interest rate on the bank/bells in a patch where the monthly interest is now useless.

So it was all for money (no pun intended). I understand the need to make the game more interactive, but this isn’t a good business practice. If I were to make a game (which is bound to happen anyway), I would try to listen to the fans on the major details and not engage in anti-consumer practices.

To be honest, Nintendo has gone downhill as a company. They have cut several corners, limited the availability of older modern games, put a high price on half-baked content, and made several unreasonable decisions in game development (like the tropical fruit thing in ACNH or the lack of character customization and skirt options in Pokémon Scarlet/Violet), while remaining behind its competitors on online services (which includes video and music stores), third party support, and hardware. It’s not just ACNH. They did make several good decisions in the last few years, yet there’s still these problems that they haven’t addressed.

Which is why I made the decesion to grow so much blue roses on my island and when I pluck them, I sell them for a lot of bells. Its been working greatly for me. I really don't do turnips because of how annoying it is to get a good turnip price when it keeps going down to a worse price.

At this point, it would be better to exchange Bells with other players on TBT if you want to make Bells quickly. The game is old enough that supply has gone high.

 

[-Blue-]

Which is why I made the decesion to grow so much blue roses on my island and when I pluck them, I sell them for a lot of bells. Its been working greatly for me. I really don't do turnips because of how annoying it is to get a good turnip price when it keeps going down to a worse price.

Yeah relying on your own turnip prices will usually have you losing. Which is why people often go online to do the turnip market.

The thing is, turnip exchanging was a thing before NH, but it was free to do online. Really online for NH has nothing new to offer. It's all the old stuff from the previous games, but now locked behind a paywall. And worst, it's been downgraded since there isn't any actual multiplayer like there was in NL.

Nintendo put less effort into online scene and put a price on it and we're using our connections instead of them having a secure and dedicated server. Think about that for a moment.

 

[oath2order]

The only way to really make money easily in NH is the turnip market. They knew what they were doing. They wanted people to buy their online sub. So much of the game was locked behind the NSO. This is the reason they nerfed so much of the ways you could make bells. They even nerfed the interest rate on the bank/bells in a patch where the monthly interest is now useless.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Hell, the fact that the only guaranteed ways to get DIYs, the games core feature is the Nook's Cranny/Nook Stop purchases, one per day on the main island, 3 from your villagers each day, and one bonus one from HHP Island (other methods are all random) and there's 922 total recipes (781 DIY, 141 cooking). Like, you have to go online to get more.

And the fact that you can only get 3 total fruits (the one you start with, one from mystery islands, and the coconut.

So it was all for money (no pun intended). I understand the need to make the game more interactive, but this isn’t a good business practice. If I were to make a game (which is bound to happen anyway), I would try to listen to the fans on the major details and not engage in anti-consumer practices.

That's capitalism.

But in all seriousness, I do hate this. It doesn't give the game longevity. What if this is the last Animal Crossing main game? When the servers go down, and they will go down, RIP to getting any fruit that isn't the 3 you can get.

Although, and I don't have this option unlocked, if you redecorate a villager's house after you get that ability in HHP and finish unlocking all the items, you could always purchase the items from the villager...If they're selling.

 

[Alolan_Apples]

Yeah, that makes sense.

Hell, the fact that the only guaranteed ways to get DIYs, the games core feature is the Nook's Cranny/Nook Stop purchases, one per day on the main island, 3 from your villagers each day, and one bonus one from HHP Island (other methods are all random) and there's 922 total recipes (781 DIY, 141 cooking). Like, you have to go online to get more.

And the fact that you can only get 3 total fruits (the one you start with, one from mystery islands, and the coconut.


That's capitalism.

But in all seriousness, I do hate this. It doesn't give the game longevity. What if this is the last Animal Crossing main game? When the servers go down, and they will go down, RIP to getting any fruit that isn't the 3 you can get.

Although, and I don't have this option unlocked, if you redecorate a villager's house after you get that ability in HHP and finish unlocking all the items, you could always purchase the items from the villager...If they're selling.

This is a serious flaw. If you’re required to pay to play after getting the game, the game loses popularity. If this game loses popularity, this site loses activity. If this site lose activity, response times will become slower as the TBT Marketplace would be harder to do business on. This is why site activity has plummeted faster than during the New Leaf era.

As for what you pointed out, it is true that once the internet shuts down for the game, everything that required it will essentially be impossible to do, and much of ACNH requires using the internet to play.

 

[-Blue-]

This is a serious flaw. If you’re required to pay to play after getting the game, the game loses popularity. If this game loses popularity, this site loses activity. If this site lose activity, response times will become slower as the TBT Marketplace would be harder to do business on. This is why site activity has plummeted faster than during the New Leaf era.

As for what you pointed out, it is true that once the internet shuts down for the game, everything that required it will essentially be impossible to do, and much of ACNH requires using the internet to play.

If I remember correctly City Folk or Wild World had the same issues where one of the final store upgrades needed online access? New Horizon wasn't the first to do this, but it was the first to put so much of its content behind online and then slapped a price on it. It does make me wonder what they will do when the game stops receiving updates or Nintendo decides they're done holding it in their database. The physical copy is incomplete.

 

[Alolan_Apples]

If I remember correctly City Folk or Wild World had the same issues where one of the final store upgrades needed online access? New Horizon wasn't the first to do this, but it was the first to put so much of its content behind online and then slapped a price on it. It does make me wonder what they will do when the game stops receiving updates or Nintendo decides they're done holding it in their database. The physical copy is incomplete.

It could possibly kill all interest into future buyers of the game.

Moving onto a new subject, there’s another thing ACNL did better than ACNH: the catalog. In ACNL, you could order up to 80 purchases at a time, but you only get 10 in the mail at once. In ACNH, they took a giant leap backwards where you can only order five per day, and you only get new mail at 5:00 AM. Meaning you can only do this once per day. It doesn’t help that you can’t time travel anymore without changing the system’s time.

 

[Croconaw]

My biggest complaint was being unable to update the game at all due to lack of WiFi. I would've hated having to pay for a subscription just to sit at Starbucks and download updates because they happened to release an unfinished game. This game is unplayable and unenjoyable without WiFi. It's a miracle I played as long as I did with my limited access to WiFi throughout my time playing it. This game proves just how money-hungry Nintendo can be. Having to pay for a subscription each time an update is available is more money in their pockets, so they don't care. The main difference between this game and New Leaf is that New Leaf is enjoyable by those without WiFi. You can still enjoy the game for what it has to offer without having to shell out extra money. Nintendo should be ashamed with how they handled this game. My initial impression from the start was that it was rushed so they could release it during the lockdown. I don't think this game would've been getting the attention it did had it been released any other time. People used this game as an escape from the pandemic. It was not that great of a game.

 

[McRibbie]

My initial impression from the start was that it was rushed so they could release it during the lockdown. I don't think this game would've been getting the attention it did had it been released any other time. People used this game as an escape from the pandemic. It was not that great of a game.

I'm not gonna lie, "game announced to be released in March 2020 nine months beforehand was rushed to be released in a global pandemic that had its first outbreak four months after that announcement and only really started being a major issue in the months leading up to release" is a take I've never heard before.

 

[VanitasFan26]

I'm not gonna lie, "game announced to be released in March 2020 nine months beforehand was rushed to be released in a global pandemic that had its first outbreak four months after that announcement and only really started being a major issue in the months leading up to release" is a take I've never heard before.

I have a feeling Nintendo had plans to delay the game because knowing how unfinished it was they knew it needed more time to add more content, but because the Covid-19 Pandemic happened it forced Nintendo to release the game in the state that it was in. This is a mixed bag on one hand it was good for Nintendo to release the game when everyone needed something to get their minds off during the pandemic, but on the other hand the game itself suffered since there was so much missing at launch and it wasn't added until a year later. When they were done with the 2.0 update from 2021 they were just like "Okay thats done and we have nothing else to add this game lets move on" and just like that the game was completed for better or for worse this is just how it was.

 

[Alolan_Apples]

I have a feeling Nintendo had plans to delay the game because knowing how unfinished it was they knew it needed more time to add more content, but because the Covid-19 Pandemic happened it forced Nintendo to release the game in the state that it was in. This is a mixed bag on one hand it was good for Nintendo to release the game when everyone needed something to get their minds off during the pandemic, but on the other hand the game itself suffered since there was so much missing at launch and it wasn't added until a year later. When they were done with the 2.0 update from 2021 they were just like "Okay thats done and we have nothing else to add this game lets move on" and just like that the game was completed for better or for worse this is just how it was.

If I can remember, nobody was aware of COVID until 2020 when the pandemic started. Nintendo planned on releasing the game in March 2020 all the way back in June 2019, before the pandemic started. I think the reason why they released it unfinished was because they didn’t want time travelers having a huge advantage over other players.