Mafia The Murder of Woodpines Oregon - Game Thread - Endgame

[toadsworthy]

im not saying that the placeholder vote was justified, and im not saying ur position is wrong even if i think waffles could have a potential reason, however weak. im saying u probably shouldnt have voted for her because it gave the wrong message about ur intentions

this argument is pointless anyway, kinda wanna drop it since it isnt getting us anywhere

WOW
so you are saying that you were confused by my placeholder vote that had no intentions or addition to the lynch or being productive to the town or to anything except fulfilling my own personal will?

gee I sure wish people wouldn't do that anymore

and gee I sure wish someone would say out loud that we shouldn't do that anymore

I REST MY CASE

 

[Antonio]

I'm going to sleep now bye.

Same, but let me finish snl.

 

[amazonevan19]

toads is really reminding me of his town meta rn, getting super pissed off and involved early on.

RN I'm inclined to vote locket because I don't like her reads list and wishy washiness regarding d1 reads. We know d1 reads can kinda suck, why backpedal on your reads and almost instantly cave under pressure like that?

 

[Seroja]

as I've said a couple times, I clearly understand your point of view, but you're self-contradicting yourself here my friend. If we shouldn't vote waffles over the self-vote, why are YOU doing so? "To make my point hurr" well you already made your point pretty damn clear here in the thread. If you don't want waffles dead, then you shouldn't vote her. Plain and simple. Yeah, we can change, but if waffles can't vote herself because it's stupid, you shouldn't be voting and not really meaning it. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

also evans what toads did and what waffles did are two different things. waffle's self vote did not give any information, toad's vote was done to draw out information. or am I wrong? and you can change your votes omg it's not like it's 15 seconds to EOD.

we're going around in circles. lets stop/

 

[toadsworthy]

as I've said a couple times, I clearly understand your point of view, but you're self-contradicting yourself here my friend. If we shouldn't vote waffles over the self-vote, why are YOU doing so? "To make my point hurr" well you already made your point pretty damn clear here in the thread. If you don't want waffles dead, then you shouldn't vote her. Plain and simple. Yeah, we can change, but if waffles can't vote herself because it's stupid, you shouldn't be voting and not really meaning it. Can't have your cake and eat it too.

now apply this exact same reasoning to
Waffles voting herself
or bianca voting ness each time

and you fall into the exact same frustrating spot I was in seeing another placeholder vote.

END CASE, we should stop doing stupid votes like this

 

[illunie]

WOW
so you are saying that you were confused by my placeholder vote that had no intentions or addition to the lynch or being productive to the town or to anything except fulfilling my own personal will?

gee I sure wish people wouldn't do that anymore

and gee I sure wish someone would say out loud that we shouldn't do that anymore

I REST MY CASE

wait so first the vote was a way of getting her attention, and now its a placeholder vote?

yeah part of it too was to see if anyone called me out immediately, but waffles was the first one to really say anything.

 

[Biancasbotique]

now apply this exact same reasoning to
Waffles voting herself
or bianca voting ness each time

and you fall into the exact same frustrating spot I was in seeing another placeholder vote.

END CASE, we should stop doing stupid votes like this

Stop putting my play everytime you want to point out something is stupid. I get it. You think I am stupid. Geez can you be more subtle!

- - - Post Merge - - -

and for you all...can you all see the hypocrisy of criticizing over someone's vote when you yourself is doing the same thing!

 

[Farobi]

GUYS STOP FIGHTING!

actually go on this is juicy

 

[Seroja]

toads is really reminding me of his town meta rn, getting super pissed off and involved early on.

RN I'm inclined to vote locket because I don't like her reads list and wishy washiness regarding d1 reads. We know d1 reads can kinda suck, why backpedal on your reads and almost instantly cave under pressure like that?

did she backpedal? on what? quotes? something more solid to demonstrate why you find her lynchworthy please.

 

[illunie]

we're going around in circles. lets stop/

pls

 

[amazonevan19]

hold up

Toads' vote was not to draw out information. It was purely a punitive measure against Waffles, and Toads doesn't really want Waffles dead.

So again, I ask: why vote Waffles in the first place if you don't mean it?

Since we pretty much all seem to agree self-voting is stupid (except Waffles apparently) then I also agree that it's probably a good idea to move on since this isn't getting us closer to finding a lynch target. I'm just a little befuddled by the bad logic employed by multiple sides of this discussion

 

[Farobi]

But yeah, whatever is being talked about can actually be cleared out by the one person who placed the vote herself, so i'm not sure if this is arguing for the sake of arguing or trying to prove that one side is right or whatever.

 

[illunie]

toads is really reminding me of his town meta rn, getting super pissed off and involved early on.

RN I'm inclined to vote locket because I don't like her reads list and wishy washiness regarding d1 reads. We know d1 reads can kinda suck, why backpedal on your reads and almost instantly cave under pressure like that?

ehh a lot of the reads are wishy washy thats just kind of what u get when there isnt much to go on, but ye id be up for a locket lynch rn

 

[Biancasbotique]

Well im stupid so what do I know

 

[toadsworthy]

wait so first the vote was a way of getting her attention, and now its a placeholder vote?

I used the term to try to connect the two so you could see my point I've been trying to make all along, but you just want to fight it more... because you literally posted the same thought process I've been saying from the start that placeholder votes cause and we need to avoid.

* DEEP BREATHS TOAD DEEP BREATHS *

My vote was a statement, I've made that statement. I'm sick of talking about it at this point because no one wants to ****ing listen.

 

[illunie]

my three candidates are probably amanda locket and punchy but amanda hasnt had much of a chance to defend herself yet so im gonna sit on it

 

[amazonevan19]

did she backpedal? on what? quotes? something more solid to demonstrate why you find her lynchworthy please.

I will go back and find them. It would be easier with post filters. But once Bianca started fighting with her, Locket really went into this whole "my d1 reads suck because all d1 reads suck" sort of routine, and it really rubbed me the wrong way.

 

[illunie]

I used the term to try to connect the two so you could see my point I've been trying to make all along, but you just want to fight it more... because you literally posted the same thought process I've been saying from the start that placeholder votes cause and we need to avoid.

* DEEP BREATHS TOAD DEEP BREATHS *

My vote was a statement, I've made that statement. I'm sick of talking about it at this point because no one wants to ****ing listen.

dude we all agree with ur general argument lmao
its just the way u went about it i dont like, but it has basically no impact on my read of u so its a waste of time

 

[Biancasbotique]

well in retrospect, i do agree with toads about self-vote but like rune..the way he he went about it that i didnt like...you can tell them that they are wrong without belittling them

 

[toadsworthy]

yeah
but I bet you will think twice about placeholder voting now