Mafia The Real Housewives of Mafia - Town Wins

[N e s s]

i wonder what hell i've woken up to :,)

 

[cornimer]

Well I still don't really think any of my points are moot...but Kat clearing punchy is kind of giving me second thoughts about her. In which case I would vote Dad or, tbh, glow because she's done literally nothing. I remember in Kingmaker as town she made a couple of big posts day one before she got killed, but she's produced no good content this game.

 

[mogyay]

MY THOUGHTS ON PEOPLE in no particular order and theyre not really reads either bc its kinda early and im lazy and also i got in trouble last time bc i have trouble colour coding things


sensai hasn't really posted anything of merit so far. emotional outburst from him for a slight call out from zendal? the only name really thrown out by him is a kinda bizarre town read of zendal for grammar??

vanessa, don't like how ur defending chelle for doing a 180 from her last game, that's kinda the point of mafia lmao. also again why defend deadanne and sensai, i can't tell if it's iffy or not, its fine to play devil'd advocate but just bc they act one way as town doesnt mean they wont act another way as mafia? just seems sus coming to their defence BUT ive never played with u and ur nice so its probably just something u do lol

amazon's one post is basically just reciting the thread back to us lmao, i don't really get the point... are u pretending lengthy posts are content or something? like i know ur injecting ur own thoughts into it a bit but only really to disagree or agree with something, nothing really of note. idk posts like that kinda throw me a bit but if it helps u out (or anyone else) then whatever

ok actually im so hungry so i will finish off my stream of thoughts later lmao

 

[cornimer]

Actually looking back I believe what she cleared Punchy for was his question about arsonists which he easily could've faked imo. So I don't really think he's clear

 

[mogyay]

i dont understand why he's cleared what did i miss

 

[cornimer]

The arsonist is tp, not mafia like in Bianca's micro mafia?

I think this is the post he's "clear" for mog

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But like I think he could easily have faked that

 

[mogyay]

i mean my thoughts are kinda initially he's def not the arsonist but otherwise i dont rly see what thats a clear huh

 

[Dolby]

Glow's continuing silence still remains worrying tbh

Ok, I TR Dedenne, but she seems a little different then the last two games where she was town

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He was playing agressive early on, while picking a noob target.

This seems off. She has no scum meta obviously, but acting differently from her town meta doesn't raise red flags?

Also, ftr while reading this, I can 100% see a Kat/Zendal team (simply to make a point, not that I sus them)

Evan's flow in making his most recent post seems good as it reads as a stream of consciousness, which I like in this setting.

Just a quick colour list, this is in order:




Heyden
Chele
Abe (Endless)
Ness
Vanessa
Dolby
Mog
Evan
Waffles
Dedenne
Panda
Punchy
Kat (Arstotkan)
Farobi
Glow -
Dad

Actually, looking at Zendal's reads post, I have a hard time putting him on a scum team without Heyden lol, or maybe Mog. Overall agree with most of it except the conclusion that Heyden is top town. He honestly shouldn't be considered confirmed in any way. Besides that, I have a hard time coming up with possible teammates for Zendel, so townlean purely based off of that.

repeating it one more time for the choir since it's STILL getting ignored:

PUNCHY IS CLEAR.​

Disagree with this. While I do agree that he is not the arsonist himself, he could still say this as scum because 1. Confusion to arsonists being maf in his first game, and the arso not being on his team 2. Being coached to appear town

Actually waitting for full reads from Mog, that will do a lot to my opinion on her

I'd still go for the three that I listed earlier tbh (Glow, Dad, Punchy). However, Glow's silence and lack of contribution are most telling. Dad's posting honestly has improved and I kinda feel like Kat was trying to pocket Zendel there, but there's some differences from her Kingmaker (scum) play that make me feel that she's town that I don't feel like addressing right now.

Glow's literally made one post that had the semblance of value. I wouldn't be surprised if she doused Heyden (as nobody else I feel has reason to douse Heyden specifically unless one of the higher-skill people believed that he was likely to survive to endgame), and her silence, and literally one opinion, strengthens my belief in a Glow/Dad team

 

[amazonevan19]

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Chele clarifies what she meant by “slip” and also questions ness on why Dolby/Chele is incompatible, stating she’d go with an opposite read. Uhh why? I don’t think Chele and Dolby are compatible at this stage in the thread

Sensai comes in, answers RQs, and dings Chele for skipping an RQ question and offering no explanation for doing so. The tiniest of townleans on Sensai for pointing that out, if Sensai/Chele were a team he wouldn’t want to point that out and if Sensai was scum and Chele was town, he wouldn’t be trying to go after her/paint her as looking bad this early on.

Panda points out that Chele only missed out on the colors question (which tbh seems to be either an icebreaker or some strange Freudian psychology test on Abe’s part), but Farobi missed more important questions, and asked Sensai why he didn’t point it out. Sensai claims he didn’t see it but that Farobi is more concerning as a result. Apparently Sensai was just skimming the thread, which tbh I’ve done before and isn’t really alignment indicative. I wanted to skim the pages I missed so bad but I’m not so get on my level jk

Dedenne comes in with RQs and some quick observations. Most notably, she seemed concerned that her post might not be “good enough.” Which is kind of fair, seeing as she got heavily sussed for two games straight for her lack of good content. Her observations were good to me, so I am townleaning Dedenne for now.

Farobi says he didn’t answer the questions he skipped because they’re “useless,” and goes on an anti-RQ mini diatribe. (As in, all of a couple sentences lol.) Yet if he really believed that, then why did he answer ANY RQs if he thinks they’re entirely useless? Kind of strange if you ask me…


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Panda states the obvious and exactly my reaction to Farobi’s last post when I read it Farobi says essentially “because I can, Kappa” which I am not impressed by tbh



…Actually at this point I don’t think my efforts are really all that helpful, I should just give my thoughts more concisely rather than posting all my notes here. My notes are really only good for me imo as anyone can just go back and read the thread.

IN SUMMARY from reading the thread, I’m getting these as my initial townleans, nulls, and scumleans.

TOWN:
Heyden

Vanessa

Chele

Dedenne

Zendel – Farobi’s read of him is ****, he always corrects his grammar and from what I’ve seen of Zendel, his frustrated out there personality shines in his town meta.


NULL:
Dolby and Endless – despite my thinking dolby and endless are acting like town, I put them in null because the buddying is strong with these two, and in my mind, the scale weighs town-like opinions equal to hard buddying, since it’s easy to engineer agreement and discussion like that as scum, and like I said before I wouldn’t be surprised if Dolby/Endless were put together.

Ness

ITYW

Mog

Farobi – the RQ thing seems a bit scummy to me, but earlier on in the thread he seemed townie sooo idk enough about him yet


SCUM:

Kat – punchy is far from confirmed and I side with Vanessa in her debate with kat.

Punchy – always eager to play, but there definitely is a difference with his opening posts and subsequent defense

Glow – reflecting scum meta very well

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oh and I'd put Dad in scum too and Sensai as the bottom townlean

 

[Arstotzkan]

I think this is the post he's "clear" for mog

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But like I think he could easily have faked that

He could have but realistically, I don't see it being possible. Occam's razor and all of that. Do you think Punchy is thinking things through enough to be able to fake that?

 

[cornimer]

vanessa, don't like how ur defending chelle for doing a 180 from her last game, that's kinda the point of mafia lmao. also again why defend deadanne and sensai, i can't tell if it's iffy or not, its fine to play devil'd advocate but just bc they act one way as town doesnt mean they wont act another way as mafia? just seems sus coming to their defence BUT ive never played with u and ur nice so its probably just something u do lol

amazon's one post is basically just reciting the thread back to us lmao, i don't really get the point... are u pretending lengthy posts are content or something? like i know ur injecting ur own thoughts into it a bit but only really to disagree or agree with something, nothing really of note. idk posts like that kinda throw me a bit but if it helps u out (or anyone else) then whatever

I have a habit of defending people who I think are town to try to avoid them being mislynched, especially since Sensai and Dedenne get sussed/lynched literally every game even though their behaviour is the same. It's true that they could just be faking their meta though, I should probably keep that in mind.
Also I agree with your point on Evan it did kinda feel like he was just reciting the thread

 

[amazonevan19]

also, arsonist is a mafia role, not a third party role

 

[mogyay]

He could have but realistically, I don't see it being possible. Occam's razor and all of that. Do you think Punchy is thinking things through enough to be able to fake that?

OK I SEE WHAT U MEAN NOW and this is the only game ive played with him but i kinda see what u mean and im kinda feelin u

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also, arsonist is a mafia role, not a third party role

oh look amazon is trying to get a clear too hahah

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ok not an automatic clear but i def feel 85% better about punchy

 

[cornimer]

also, arsonist is a mafia role, not a third party role

I googled it and it said it was more likely third party actually but idk whats more common here

 

[mogyay]

I have a habit of defending people who I think are town to try to avoid them being mislynched, especially since Sensai and Dedenne get sussed/lynched literally every game even though their behaviour is the same. It's true that they could just be faking their meta though, I should probably keep that in mind.
Also I agree with your point on Evan it did kinda feel like he was just reciting the thread

ok i didnt know it was a habit. its just it would be in scums interest to jump up and defend people (esp weaker players) bc subconsciously they would prob start trusting u more! i was just thinking out loud tho, ive never played with u but i can tell ur the kinda person to do that as town as well!

 

[Arstotzkan]

also, arsonist is a mafia role, not a third party role

see this doesnt work tho bc I know you know its a 3rd party role whereas punchy doesnt know that

 

[cornimer]

He could have but realistically, I don't see it being possible. Occam's razor and all of that. Do you think Punchy is thinking things through enough to be able to fake that?

He could be getting coached, or maybe he's just good at scum. We've never seen him as scum before so it's possible

 

[amazonevan19]

oh look amazon is trying to get a clear too hahah

I'm just stating a fact lol. Arsonist is a scum role

If you're talking about Kat's supposed proof that Punchy is town because of it, quite honestly I feel it's **** and surprising coming from a player as high caliber as her. Anyone can fake that or be coached on that, and Punchy's other behavior in this thread outweighs his somewhat noobish question that is 100% a towntell according to you and Kat. Like wtf. Maybe he is town, but so far I see nothing to suggest he is.

Speaking of punchy, no hard feelings on the he/she thing, I just threw that in there as a little humor

 

[Arstotzkan]

I googled it and it said it was more likely third party actually but idk whats more common here

I think Evan was trying to make a point rather than truly believing that lol

 

[amazonevan19]

I googled it and it said it was more likely third party actually but idk whats more common here

on epicmafia it's a mafia role, and I believe it was a mafia role here recently, no?

Perhaps TBT does it differently (or has in the past) but I've ALWAYS had it as a scum role

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I think Evan was trying to make a point rather than truly believing that lol

OHHHH

yeah

to clarify, I was saying that arsonists are usually seen as scum roles in games, and not TP. I'm not saying I know for a fact the arsonists is in this game or is actually scum.